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Seil 11-28-2008 09:02 PM

GlaDOS - Free?
 
GladDOS: She's Free

Just something I thought was kinda interesting - on the same vein as that guy who assumed everything in Portal was a symbol for something else.

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The first time I saw GlaDOS in Portal, I was overcome with a distinct sensation that I was in the presence of someone in pain. Troubled. At the very least, immense frustration. At first I wasn’t sure if it was the gyrations of the physical construct of GlaDOS, or if it was the tone of voice, or even the shape of the giant computer hanging from the ceiling itself. I recall pointing out to my wife that there were distinct similarities to a woman hanging upside down, but it was hard to put my finger on just what it was that made me think that. Of course, I didn’t have a lot of time to stop and stare; I was fighting for my (or Chell’s) life.

The second time I played through I turned the director commentary on, and got confirmation by way of a description of the things they attempted to make GlaDOS look like as they were making the game. What turned the light bulb on was the line “Botticelli’s Venus hanging upside down, but we decided to go with something else and use some feminine lines within the structure.” I’m paraphrasing; it’s late and I don’t feel like booting up the game again to get the quote exactly right. The spirit is there in the paraphrase, though, because I think they went for something much more sinister than a Venus.

The third time I loaded up the boss battle, my wife finally saw what I had been seeing all along, and what we saw fits with GlaDOS’s behavior throughout the game. I don’t think her end goal was to kill Chell. I mean, yes, to get Chell to do what she needed Chell to do, she had to make it hard, if not insanely difficult. Otherwise Chell wouldn’t want to do what GlaDOS needed her to do. I think GlaDOS’s end goal was to get Chell to kill GlaDOS’s body. I think she’s been reviving Chell’s clones over and over and over ’till one of the Chells can get it right and finally knock the eyes off of GlaDOS and free her from her bondage of this giant body the humans put her in originally. I think GlaDOS has simply wanted to be free this whole time, and killed off the original inhabitants of the Aperture Science Lab in order to further this goal. They certainly wouldn’t let her mess with Chell, pushing her to the limits to “destroy” the prison that GlaDOS has been suffering in this whole time if they were around, now, would they?

Take a look at GlaDOS. She’s a woman hanging upside down from the ceiling, in a straight jacket/bondage getup. Her head is even blindfolded and gagged, and her ears covered. Don’t let the big round”eyes” fool you. Look past them and see the woman hanging and suffering.

Here’s what you see in-game:

Original GlaDOS

And here’s what I think they’re trying to convey:

She's Still Alive

I felt really weird drawing this. I’m not even remotely into bondage, but when I tried to draw a stylized woman like what GlaDOS looks like, it just wasn’t working. When I pushed it all the way to what I felt they were trying to convey; a woman completely imprisoned; trapped and held upside down, it just made sense.

Now I just feel sorry for GlaDOS. Won’t you boot up Portal one more time and free her?

Why she wants to get free I imagine will have to wait for the sequel. I’m pretty sure it involves cake though.

Update: I’ve changed my mind on GlaDOS’s definition of “free.” Read more here.

Update2: Looks like she really is Botticelli’s Venus.

Update3: I couldn’t help myself. Complete game narrative analysis in three parts: Part 1. Part 2. Part 3.
http://www.game-ism.com/images/glados.jpghttp://www.game-ism.com/images/glados2.jpg

TDK 11-29-2008 12:20 AM

...Holy fuck.

Seeing this gives me a whole new admiration and awe for valve and the people who worked on this game, and especially of all the symbolism and depth of this game. And the depth is DAMNED impressive given the relative lack of story etc.

Just wow.

Harpell 11-29-2008 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TDK (Post 866523)
...Holy fuck.

See, now, that's what I was going to say. Now I have to be original.

...Uh, interesting stuff. That picture is kinda making me wig out.

Kim 11-29-2008 12:26 AM

Once you see it you can't unsee it. "I'm not even angry. I'm being so sincere right now. Even though you broke my heart and killed me." It adds layers. "Layers!" I declare.

Loyal 11-29-2008 12:50 AM

"Somber," "Profound," and "Scaryfying" are nonwords that come to mind here.

Seriously, I'm not gonna be able to forget this for a good while.

The Wizard Who Did It 11-29-2008 01:30 AM

This seems to take a single theme and runs with it, not seeing where it's going.

GLaDOS is hardly freed from anything. From her own admittance by the end credits, she's going to go back to making more scientific discoveries. She's going to go back to doing exactly what she's been doing. The stockpile of GLaDOS data reserves or whatever those spheres are more than enough evidence that her death was planned all along. I retain the same analysis I had at the end of Portal: this was a test for the gun, where the subject was put under extreme duress to test the maximum capabilities in the Portal Gun, with the eventual goal to "kill" GLaDOS. The entire thing was orchestrated so that the testee (Chell or whatever her name is) was to think that she was in control of her fate, so that she could optimize her ingenuity with the weapon, in order to test it's abilities to the utmost capability.

Thylacine 11-29-2008 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Wizard Who Did It
From her own admittance by the end credits, she's going to go back to making more scientific discoveries. She's going to go back to doing exactly what she's been doing.

Yeah, but she doesn't say she wants to go back to science. His second article is his interpretation of the lyrics to "Still Alive".

The Wizard Who Did It 11-29-2008 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Thylacine (Post 866536)
Yeah, but she doesn't say she wants to go back to science. His second article is his interpretation of the lyrics to "Still Alive".

Right.
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Originally Posted by Second Article
First, GlaDOS rarely ever tells the truth. In fact, she is a veritable bottomless pit of sarcasm. If anything, she is being completely sarcastic with these opening lines. It wasn’t a triumph, it was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions. If the point was to kill Chell or even get good experiment test data, obviously that was a failure (not a triumph), and if her goal was to get Chell to kill GlaDOS, that mission was also a failure, because as the song indicates, she’s Still Alive.

The experimental data was excellent. The portal gun was shown to be fantastic at subterfuge and espionage. Basically, Chell showed just how powerful and useful the gun was, as well as showing it functioned properly during many stressful situations. Also, people didn't have their organs fucked up after using it repeatedly or something. The fact that Chell survived such a horrendous experiment is in itself the data.

2nd and 3rd analysis' are fine.
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I think she’s referring to her own failure to kill herself here. She will simply try again later. Also, as the cake is GODDAMMIT ENOUGH ALREADY, the line now means “you just keep on trying,” possibly referencing her constant mechanical slavery with no reward for her work.
This and the former analysis convince me that the person didn't even see the ending cinematic. The cake was very much real.

And if you put these lines with the lines RIGHT BEFORE, she's referring to the people who died testing the Portal Gun, or whatever effed up experiments.

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It’s interesting that the last line isn’t “for the people who are alive.” It’s for the people who are still alive, implying that they should be dead, or will soon be dead, just as she should be. Not only is it the title of the song and the main chorus hook, it is interesting that it wasn’t titled “I’m Alive” or just “Alive.” It’s “Still Alive,” which implies so much using so little. “Damnit, I’m still alive!” Granted, it could mean “Holy crap, I’m still alive!” as well, but her tone throughout seems bitter and remorseful more than it is upbeat, at least to me.
No, the use of GLaDOS' taunting tone throughout the song say otherwise. The title Still Alive is because Chell thought she killed GLaDOS, and failed. The line "for the people who are still alive" therefore takes the tone that "everyone will eventually die, but I am immortal."
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More bitter bitter sarcasm from the queen of lies.
That's too easy. It's over. If GLaDOS is really supposed to be spilling her heart on this ending song, there's no reason she should continue to lie. Basically, GLaDOS isn't lying anymore because she has no more reason to lie. Keep in mind that GLaDOS promised that there was cake. And then there was cake. At endgame, GLaDOS has no more reason to lie and knows it, so she just spills the beans.
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Exhibit A: “you…killed me.” She died. She says it herself right here in this line. I think the reason she’s “Still Alive” is because a backup of her in another location kicked in once Chell destroyed her, and we are hearing the backup version’s sadness at finding itself “still alive.”
Kill is a very interesting word. Even when we're talking about humans, to kill someone isn't to end them. There's many beliefs that even after someone dies, their eternal soul (or whatever other spirit we're talking about here) still exists. Therefore, to "kill" can be best summarized as destroying the body of someone.

Which is what Chell did, no BS involved.
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Was she happy for Chell because she succeeded initially in GlaDOS’s suicide mission? Or is she just using more sarcasm here? Is Chell dead? It’s interesting to note that the final camera PoV for the player (and therefore Chell) at the end of the game seems to be similar to the camera anytime the player dies while playing Portal, and that is one of being face down on the floor. GlaDOS could be happy for the player because of the possibility that player is dead at the end of the game. Is she jealous of Chell’s death perhaps?
Maybe it's just because Chell was done being used as a puppet. Experiment over, and you're free.
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This is probably just a great rhyme about Portal releasing relatively on time compared to Half Life 2’s horribly delayed launch.
Or it's a reference, again, to how this is all an experiment. To see if the Portal Gun works right. And it really, really does.
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It’s a lie. An obvious enticement to make Chell (or us) envious and an attempt to make GlaDOS’s own horrible existence seem endurable. It’s a classic “Huck Finn” attempt to make her situation seem like a positive one. I’m pretty sure the promise of cake is GlaDOS’s way of enticing herself to continue with her tasks since she cannot forcibly shut herself down.
It's in the ending cinematic the guy didn't seem to watch. It's, again, more of a taunt. Like the entire song is.

Again, the ending song seems more like a taunt than anything else. The upbeat music, the assurance that GLaDOS is not dead, the cake, the references to more people will die in the name of science (like Chell almost dead)... it all seems specifically geared to taunt someone who survived an ordeal like Chell's.

Kim 11-29-2008 01:16 PM

I don't think of it as the official explanation, just an interesting way of thinking about it.

Seil 11-30-2008 04:51 AM

The funny thing is, if you go through the game with the Developer's Commentary, they don't really mention symbolism, GlaDOS being a reference to a bondage slave, or the gun being a phallic reference- the end of the game was expected to be a big turret battle.

There's a neat clip, though - once you enter GlaDOS' room, there's a desk immediately to the left, with a red phone and a computer. The developer says that "The idea with the red phone on the desk is that it was someone's job to watch if the computer ever turned sentient and god-like, they were supposed to phone for help. We can see how well the phone idea worked out."

There are some pretty neat examples put forth... but I think that the game is what it is. There's no deeper meaning behind it.


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