That reminds me, heve we decided what kind of fighter Lucy is going to be? Like, guns vs melee vs unarmed? Cause if not, there are some interesting things to do as a melee character with dogmeat.

I like going into these things and being a total paragon. It makes me feel legendary.

This too, is tempting.

I tend to find whatever works best generally works best. So guns, blades, fists whatever, s'all good. Depends what the stats are like right now though really, no point going with melee if small arms is already way ahead, or whatever.

Usually though it's prudent to have at least one weapon in every area, so I'm thinking shishkebab + sniper + Fatman + alien laser gun should be a winning combo. And Dogmeat, of course.

Did you shoot him, reload, punch him dead, take a screenshot, then reload again?

Because that's what it looks like, and I'm just wondering if punching him kills him or just knocks him out despite the empty life bar.

The picture of him unconscious is from the hallway altercation--which only knocks him out if you keep hitting him after he calls off the fight.

When I murdered him and reloaded, it was when he was running up to ask for help with his mother. I killed him before he even said anything.

As for fighting style, as you all voted for shooting to be her hobby, I figured she'd be relying mostly on guns, being most comfortable with that, and falling back on whatever was available only when she ran out of bullets.

HAHAHA
I just realized we have a red-head named Lucy.


Come on I cant be the only one that gets that.



But back on topic. I say megaton, and dont blow it up. Evil or not it is a good base of operations especialy with your own place. You can still rob everyone blind and slaughter half the town, but it has alot of side quests, a place you can make your own, shop, and medic. Just because your evil doesn't mean you have to be a homicidal maniac that kills for the sake of killing

I agree totally with this in every way. I prefer a less totally evil and more "Doing what she has to do" sort of personality. Also her bitchiness is refreshing from my concious driven playing of the game.

Yes I helped Butch the first time. I'm a pussy ><

So yea, make her neutral yet maybe sorta friendly to the nice ones, but bitchy to everyone else, including maybe her friends. But in a nice way. Sorta like what you were doing at the party.

Tis why I agreed with it as a good 50s name. I just hope Krylo took the Jinxed trait(is that in 3?) cause that would fit even better.

But yeah I say we keep her more or less an extremely bitchy neutral. Good to her friends(hence loyalist) and disproportionately horrible to those who piss her off.

When you're making your moral choices, I want you to remember this one thing: Lawbringers get to dress like cowboys.

This LP has encouraged me to start playing this again myself. I'm going the totally evil path though now. I've already killed the Overseer, Butch, Lucas Simms (I wanted his hat) and many other named characters. I even placed a nade in an old mans pocket for a trophy. Yes, I am a total bastard.

after seeing the alternative place to live, I gotta go with not blowing up Megaton. If it wasn't for all the armed guards I'd slaughter them all myself, elitist dickholes

The armed guards are what make it worthwhile. Sweet sweet ammo and shotguns.

you are right although its skipping ahead abit, LET THE GHOULS RAMPAGE

Lucy must live in Ten Penny tower. If she must blow up Megaton to do this, so be it. She must also take care of their ghoul problem. In fact, she should take care of the entire wasteland's ghoul problem.

Also their child problem, I don't care what mods you have to download.

You can do that after moving in.

Also:

So yeah, guys, I'm not going to be the one deciding our moral compass. That's you guys.

Part of the reason I did this was so I could play again with no responsibility for my moral decisions. Obviously I can't stop at every little choice for decision time, but anything remotely important I will.

Like I won't be deciding how to deal with the family without consulting you guys.

Speaking of--votes so far:

Megaton - 2
Arefu - 3
Tenpenny - 1
East - 1
Scrapyard - 2 (dog meat)


As that the scrapyard and Arefu are both NE, that's probably where I'm going, but I'm not closing voting yet as I'm too tired to want to make another post right now.

So, next vote question--do we actually bother helping the people of Arefu, or find them non-helpful to us and leave them to rot, probably happening upon the family itself later on.

Also of note: I'm not sure if we can do blood ties (Arefu quest) without going to Megaton, as it actually starts with Lucy, and without her note to her brother I don't think we can actually fix things there. I mean we can kill the shit out of people and what not, but we can't complete the quest line. Though I CAN still walk away with a sword which is also on fire.

Edit: Link me the mod and I, myself, will vote for this moral choice. Little Lamplight will be AWESOME.

I say do the Blood Ties quest and get in good with The Family, then learn to feed on blood, then get enough radiation posioning and go to Megaton so you can regenerate while irradiated, then take the cannibal perk. See where I'm going with this?

Child Killer Mod.

Everything I've heard says it works pretty well, albeit with occasional minor graphical glitches.

You do have to be a member (it's free) to download it, though.

EDIT: Video of said mod.

Also: After you get the Vampire perk, Kill him and take his trenchcoat. I love that thing.

...Kill the children. God I HATED those little lamplight fucks.

Now that there's mods I want this for PC even harder. >_<

Little Lamplight was the worst thing I have ever seen in any form of media and just thinking about it fills me with bile. It made me hate the entire game and turned me into a monster.

The only tiny reprieve I got from an unending cascade of intolerable, untouchable little shits was chopping up their dogs and artfully arranging all the body parts on their bunks.

Just a note for krylo:

If you do end up doing the Arefu quest it's worth noting that you can receive the quest without speaking with Lucy from Megaton. In fact, the quest takes a darker tone if you don't speak with Lucy or receive her letter as it becomes much more difficult to convince the young kid to leave the Vampires and return to Arefu, if you're aiming for the "good" path. But you can still receive and complete the quest -- the quest starts by speaking to the guy who's the "sheriff" of Arefu.

I vote for Megaton, just to get the info about Daddy from Moriarty and his crew, get Lucy's letter that starts the Arefu mission, and to help lovely crazy Moira Brown with her Survival Guide. And I say nuke Megaton, then help the ghouls at Tenpenny Tower - Moira's the only person you really bond with in the town and she survives the blast and everyone's a dick in the tower.

Before you do Moira's landmine retrieval mission head over to Paradise Falls (it's north of Arefu) and pick up the Slaver missions. The head slaver pimp will give you a really fun mission after you find Little Lamplight.

I'll say it again: No Megaton means no Wadsworth, and a wasteland without Wadsworth isn't worth living in, damn it!

Wadsworth causes massive slowdown on my rig.

Blow him the fuck up.

Obviously your "rig" can't handle the immense power draw of his humour emitter array. It's not Wadsworth's fault your computer sucks.

More like his fat floating ass takes up too many processor cycles.

Sounds like someone is jealous; jealous of Wadsworth's razor wit.

I don't remember his name but the Tenpenny robot butler is superior.

"Tell me a joke."
"You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake."

What did you hate so much about Lamplight anyway?

I mean I knew what I absolutely hated about Lamplight but I'm just curious what you hated about Lamplight.

*murders the entire wasteland*
*gets called names by a bunch of self-absorbed idiots*
*kisses their ass for two hours*
*gets called more names*

Edit: It's not even like you NEED them. Their gate is a stack of plywood you could knock over with a fork. I think maybe you wouldn't be able to take the shortcut to the vault (I don't remember) but that's a reasonable sacrifice for not putting up with so much ridiculous shit.

I spent my entire time at Little Lamplight killing everything I could, taking potshots at the kids, and stealing everything.

Then I sold one of them to a Slaver, and left some others already there enslaved, while laughing at them.

Little pricks.

... Holy crap... When the hell did Bebe's Kids fly into the future?

yea even being good alligned its hard to deal with those kids, I bet they are self aware, and know that you really are unable to do anything. Glad I had decent speach atleast so I could still threaten them here and there.

Let Megaton survive, help the ghouls take over tenpenny, and have both. To my knowledge there is nothing keeping you from doing that, and plus you get two robot buttlers

NPC: "OH MY GOD, YOU ARE EATING HIS FLESH"
Lucy: "why not, he's dead, it would just go to waste"

Lucy makes an excellent point. Eating human flesh isn't evil, its recycling

I don't really care what you do with Megaton but kill all the ghouls around tenpenny tower. I don't even know what we're voting for anymore but that's my two cents.

FYI, Fortunate Son is the perfect song to play while doing almost anything in this game. And while it does go very well with the "follow Liberty Prime as it demolishes all opposition" mission, the appropriate song for that scene is Libera Me From Hell.

Now here's a man who has his priorities straight.

Update coming in the next couple days.

Workin' on it.

We're heading ne/e toward Arefu and Scrapyard. I can not promise we won't get sidetracked on the way.

Isn't it technically north by northwest to get to the scrapyard and/or Arefu from your current location?

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ne/e is in the direction of DC, after all, and Arefu is further west than the vault. (The scrapyard is essentially directly north of the vault.)

Map Fight!!!

This is why I say specific locations over directions. In retrospect, it would have been cooler for peeps to only suggest directions. I haven't heard of half of the locations mentioned.

What I didn't like about Little Lamplight was that I was an epic warrior-engineer, decked out in the finest suit of pristine Enclave Power-Armor and carrying a laser rifle better maintained than perhaps what existed before the war. My mein is as terrifying as Vader's and my voice likely as menacing. I have slain the most powerful foes in the wasteland by the squad.

Yet, this kid, with a hunting rifle, insults me from behind his plywood fence, threatening to kill me if I don't go away. I smoothly draw my rifle, and am stunned to find that I cannot even equip it.

Arefu is north north west, Scrapyard is north north east. DC is due east.

This is non-negotiable.

Here's a flash-map of the Capitol Wasteland. Yes, it's filled with spoilers, but it's good for getting bearings.

I'm still of the opinion that we should seek help from the Azure Dragon of the East, but I'm beginning to suspect the four gods aren't even IN this game.

So after being a complete Oblivion nut for the longest time I finally give Fallout a chance.










Wow, I'm addicted again.

This is actually why I asked for directions, because I haven't played in months and don't really remember where everything is all that well.

Just checked on my finished game and yeah, Arefu is almost directly north, just a little west, while Scrapyard is North by Northeast.

Also: Little Lamplight isn't so bad if you're two things. A) Not a complete monster who just wants to murder children the second they say something nasty, and B) Good at talking. I convinced them to let me in within a few seconds, and after that everyone was nice to me. MacCreedy spent a lot of time cussing and shit, but not about me. That said, it'd still be great to murder them all. Or at least have that option.

Alright, I'm officially voting that we shoot Fawkes in the face when we meet him. Repeatedly. And then we defile his corpse. Anyone who has asked him to go into the radiation-soaked room at the end will understand. Come on, man, it's like a two second job, and you're in absolutely no danger from it. What the hell?

Fawkes' awesome was definitely shattered by that scene. But I digress.
I am positive this is one of the more intense dialog mods they will make. If they don't, I will make it myself and I don't even program.

The first time I played through I kept wondering whether Fawkes would agree if you had 10 Charisma or a perfect speech value, which I didn't in my first playthrough.

It's too bad Bethesda didn't think of that possibility.

RTET

Someone's already made the mod.

What are you talking about? Fawkes got it for me without a second thought, then team up with me after I escaped the enclave, and sporting an awesome laser gattling gun to boot. I think his willingness is based on karma level, mine was neutral.

Oh and a question for the others that have played it. Is there any trick to using the mezzotron or is it totally random?

You're thinking of the G.E.C.K. Different scene.

Actually, the ending just kind of blows all around. There's apparently quite a lot of fan uproar over it, because Bethesda fucked that part up about as much as they possibly could have.

oh you mean why not have him fix everything since he can take the radiation. I found it really odd that he followed me inside honestly. And I dont get why you had to sacrifice yourself radiation wasn't that much

IIRC, my exact response to Sarah was "Hahaha fuck you." which was nice because that's exactly what I would say.

Seriously; I had it down to 8/sec after a couple shots of Rad X. I could have run a few laps around the rotunda just for kicks.

I don't get why I couldn't just drill the door with my lasrifle to get back out. It's not like a 2-inch thick glass door is going to stop radiation, huh?

But yeah, I didn't like the ending either.

The problem with the ending was that it was a fairly decent, traditional ending for most RPGs, but the Fallout series always circumvented traditional endings, and the beauty of Fallout's approach was the concept that there were as many potential endings to the story as there were ways to roleplay your character. Resolution was provided for nearly every decision you made about nearly every village on the map. Every choice mattered, and every minor quest seemed to have a payoff.

Whereas in Fallout 3 the pervasive feeling is pretty much "why'd you even bother with all those subquests, because none of them mattered anyway, you just should have gone from straight from point A to point B and finished the damn thing. And even if you choose to live, you receive absolutely no details as to what your life is going to be like, so there's really no point in choosing to live. And your morality decisions are summed up in a single, irrelevant sentence! What's the point of being good or evil if the true ending plays out the same damned way?

Heck you can skip many required missions. My first playthrough I never even went to GNR. It was rather unrealistic for them to not only place it in a raider/super mutant infested area, but also have you go through what amounts to a maze to even get near it. You should not make the second place you are supposed to go, one of the most difficult places to get to

Is this let's play or fan discussion?

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I think I apologize for asking why DFM hated Lamplight and derailing. Plus Krylo isn't posting.

I think it's more a sign that Krylo needs to have Lucy purge Little Lamplight of the hellspawn that reside there. Kill 'em or sell 'em into slavery once you get what you need from them. They are needed to open the damn way into Vault 87 for the GECK, but once the door's open, RAMPAGE!

They Call it the Wasteland for a ReasonWell, guess I'll get on the road and start walking. I'll figure it out from there.

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Dust clogs my nose and lungs as the wind blows through the barren landscape. There's nothing left.

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Everything's gone. I can't imagine my father actually coming out here.

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The cities are just burnt out husks.

I happen to glance over at a mailbox that's been rusted open and take a look inside.

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...Grenades? Why would there be...? Well, whatever. I stuff them into my jumpsuit and take one last look at the burnt out buildings of the city.

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And ponder the grenades I found.

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I decide not to go that way.

Not that this is much better. I haven't seen any people yet, or even any signs that any are still alive out here.


Wait...

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"Hey!" I wave my arm wildly in the air, trying to get their attention, and it works, though I only know that as a bullet wings past my head.

I immediately stumble backwards in terror rolling down the small hill behind me, and for a second I think I might be safe. Maybe they think I'm already dead.

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Maybe one of them will come to make sure. I can see the gun in his hand as he comes down the hill and I pull my own out as well, firing off a few quick shots to startle him as I start to run.

That's not good enough though and he gives chase. I hear the shot and feel the bullet fly past my ear this time. That was too close, I was almost dead.

Fear and adrenaline are the only things keeping me moving as I spin around and level my gun at him.

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I pull the trigger I don't know how many times and I can hear the bullets tearing through him as his head vaporizes it a cloud of gore

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And then he hits the ground. I'm panting from the exertion and fear, but I can't stop yet. He wasn't the only one.

I turn and run.

I hope to god they aren't following me, I can't hear any gu...

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What the fuck is that!?


It leaps at me, but I'm still holding the gun and the adrenaline is still pumping through my veins in higher concentration than blood.

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My finger twitches backwards instinctively the bullet entering the creature's mouth, blasting it's skull apart like a child's pinata. Complete with chewy red candies.

If I weren't so terrified I'd vomit.

As it is, I don't even stop to look at it's body as I keep running, and I don't stop until I come to... a town?

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Well I've always wanted to live in a gated community, and they aren't shooting at me... so that's a good sign.

The guard reaches back toward his gun as I approach the gate, though, and I freeze in my tracks as he asks who I am.

"I'm just lost... that's all."

He relaxes a bit, maybe at the fear in my voice.

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He's got fear in his, too. I guess we must be kindred spirits.

"So, where do you come from?" he asks, still sounding fearful, and a little suspicious.

"I..." I don't want to tell him I'm from a vault, at least not if he hasn't figured it out from the giant Vault 101 on my back. He probably thinks I just scrounged it up from somewhere.

"I don't know... I lost my home so I'm just wandering the wastes now."

It's the truth. More or less.

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I nod and walk in, only to be accosted by another resident of this fine community.

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"Oh who am I kidding?" he continues, his voice losing most of it's edge, though not all, "Look, we're in trouble here. If you want to help, great. If not, just please do't kill anyone while you're here."

"Trouble?" So far this gated community thing is looking a little iffy.

"Well, we've got Super Mutants out that way, and Slavers up that way. Take your pick." He doesn't actually point to any ways. I don't think he knows how to communicate properly.

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"The best we can ever hope for is that they get here at the same time and fight over who gets to kill us."

This is getting a little uncomfortable, listening to all his problems. I don't know what they expect me to do. "Why don't you just leave?" It's about the only suggestion I can think of. It's what I'm planning on doing.

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"Besides, the bunch of us can't even hold this town. Can you imagine us shlepping across the wasteland?"

It looks like they're going to die either way, but I don't say that. "I'm sure you'll be fine."

"Yeah, we'll see." He sounds angry. I don't think it's with me, though.

I'm about ready to leave but then I think of something, "These... Super mutants? What are they?"

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"They came and rounded up a bunch of us and carried them off! God! They... they must be doing awful things to them..." his voice seems somber for a minute, but it passes as he quickly reapplies his false demeanor of bravado, "I'd go rescue them, but then who'd protect the rest of us? I patrol every day now, and I got a little surprise for those Muties when they come back. This Kick Ass Gun! Yeah Baby!" He laughs. It doesn't sound... sane.

"So where do they come from, anyway?" I try to avoid the subject of his 'bad assery'.

He looks over my shoulder right out the bridge into town. "Up north, the Germantown police station. You... going to rescue them." There's hope in his voice for the first time. I don't know if I have the heart to crush it.

"I uh... maybe. I'll look anyway."

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His voice is drooping now, the hope draining out of him, visually even. He knows I was lying.

I feel like shit, but what could I do?

Whatever, I walk away and notice a girl with what looks like a rifle on her back.

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"Hey, is there anyplace I can get supplies or anything?"

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"Oh..." I glance around a bit, and I notice that there's no children at all. Just this group of people. No old folks either, but that might just be because of the slavers and mutants, but there should at least be a few kids somewhere... and more people than this.

"Where did you all come from, anyway?" The last guy mentioned Lamplight, and maybe that's a city that's not a total hell hole.

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She sounds happy as she reminisces, but, like most good things, it doesn't last, her voice becoming somber and dark as she continues, "But then we got big and we had to leave. Those are the rules... so we left and came to Big Town, but...

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"I'm so tired of being frightened all the time." She sounds like she's going to cry.

I make some half-hearted apology for her situation and head back out of town. This isn't sounding like a place I want to stay.

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He said the mutants were coming from the north... I was going that way.

Maybe I should re-evaluate.


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So, do we help them or not?

Note, Arefu is almost due west of our current location, while Scrapyard is North by North East. Mostly north.[/swap]

I'll vote North. Save these people.

You think we'll survive germantown with a 10mm pistol and no armor? The poor girl's never even SEEN a super mutant!

I vote Arefu!

For the record you've also never seen me play.

I could take on Germantown with my BARE HANDS.

Making it believable, now THAT would be the hard part.

That was mostly my point. I could do it, I just don't think Lucy could.

Dammit I want to play Fallout 3 more now. >_<

Lets go kick some ass in Germantown to prove TDK wrong.

For the sake of story continuity, I'm going to say Arefu.
Though it would be fun to see Lucy maul Germantown, I think I like her characterization too much as is to want it dramatically changed into "Super Mutant mass murdering crazy mastermind of violence" just yet.

See, that's why it would be fun.

Have Lucy doing the entire thing in a state of pants-shitting terror.

Arefu

Well, I guess Dogmeat is out of the question since she doesn't want to head north...

I guess Arefu.

Exactly. That'll be the best part.

I say Arefu, I still want her to be a blood sucking cannibal.

But lets remember, Lucy isn't a nice character. She is neutral leaning on evil. Why would she go up against the super mutants to save a bunch of people she doesn't even know. Wait till you get to Paradise Falls so she will have some motivation to do it

Is a man (or woman) not defined by his actions?

yes and early on we voted on her actions steering away from good. I'm all for her changing over time but I think taking on several super mutants with only a 10mm handgun for the sake of people you never met might be abit much for our first good deed

Maybe you voted to steer away from good, but I voted little goody two-shoes and I ain't about to change now!

You head north young lady, and you solve some problems with violence.

She should get some exploring under her belt before she starts slaughtering supa muties.

Head north young lady.

Just do what I did; kill everyone in Big Town, steal all of their stuff and then she won't have to worry about saving anyone! But I'm guessing that's not likely to happen. At the very least have Bittercup come on to you, just to creep Lucy out and have her hightail it outta there.

I still want us to find Dogmeat, but it looks like I'm already out-voted for now, so head to Arefu, then we can get in with the Family.

Head north!