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phil_ 02-02-2009 06:37 PM

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*troubling "hypothetical" questions*

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Teal Mage 02-02-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Teal Mage (Post 892110)
Personally, I'm glad I'm in the Verda group.

:brow:

I do like the funny pig-butterfly-deer though. =D

Rhiya Ravenwing 02-03-2009 01:51 AM

I think he's referring to me...

EDIT: as in, Teal is referring to me...

Krylo 02-03-2009 02:02 AM

Sooooo... we gonna continue this or what?

I think everyone who's going to has already given a decent idea of what they're doing, whether it be sleeping or training or whatever.

Menarker 02-03-2009 03:04 AM

I am still waiting for a thread to post a revised character bio, unless you want me to set it up myself. But otherwise, it would be just training for my character once he wakes up. :3

Teal Mage 02-03-2009 05:21 PM

I think you might want to post any revisions in this thread, or talk to Arhra about on an IM.

Either way, that seems to have been the trend.


Edit: Or I could, you know, actually look to see if Arhra actually made the revision thread. That might work too.

Edit 2: So the post has some substance, I was asking mainly in reference to any Verda who isn't Demi or Alex. Character wise, I’m not sure if the others would change sides, but if it was a option, I thought I'd ask.

phil_ 02-03-2009 05:43 PM

Honestly, I just wanted to make a funny picture.

Wait, no, I have more to say! I've got some stuff to write for this day, so please wait just a little longer. It would have been done earlier today (as would a great many other things), but the city towed my car this morning (guess they wanted to clean that street twice and just thought we all knew), so my rent-paying-check-depositing-comic-drawing-magifra-posting-homework-doing time was preempted by a five-mile walk through bad neighborhoods.

So, give me the rest of tonight, at least. I just have to write it out; I know what Panko and Picky are doing. I got notes and everything.

Krylo 02-03-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by phil_ (Post 892768)
Honestly, I just wanted to make a funny picture.

Wait, no, I have more to say! I've got some stuff to write for this day, so please wait just a little longer. It would have been done earlier today (as would a great many other things), but the city towed my car this morning (guess they wanted to clean that street twice and just thought we all knew), so my rent-paying-check-depositing-comic-drawing-magifra-posting-homework-doing time was preempted by a five-mile walk through bad neighborhoods.

So, give me the rest of tonight, at least. I just have to write it out; I know what Panko and Picky are doing. I got notes and everything.

Ok, so today was hectic, but what were you doing the OTHER seven days?

Not that I'm bothered or anything, I mean the Autekkans have their meeting and all, so you've got plenty of time to do whatever. I just find your excuse highly suspect.

HIGHLY!

phil_ 02-03-2009 07:45 PM

School, drinking, planning to get things accomplished on the day I had scheduled from a week ago to get things accomplished on. Mostly that and figuring out how to make this stuff even remotely interesting to read. Oh, and laziness. And sleep.

I'm just ticked off that my "do things" day was ruined by some jerk putting up the wrong signs. Anyway, far too short post, since I'm not sure if there are going to be any huge beams of light or anything that I should react to.

Arhra 02-03-2009 08:24 PM

Yeah, it's a bit of a problem that we have some people who are going to run into each other again during this time and others who are not.

No easy solution though.

Hopefully we can just get through it by having the people who will be talking and things posting fairly rapidly. I'm afraid things have already been a little slowed by me wanting to check some things with Phoenix, but she seems to have vanished.

I was thinking after we get today sorted, we can move ahead to the first day of school and just have a little montage type post showing anything happening on the other days.

Ah, I've forgotten to mention it. Today is Friday. School starts on Monday.

PhoenixFlame 02-04-2009 07:15 PM

I'm sorry, I've been bogged down by organic chemistry.

Trying to deal with things now.

Nobody's shooting at me?! Dear god, that's a first. I'll um, post the revised character sheet later, and probably include some minor Aphelion Mode spoilers in it.

Teal Mage 02-07-2009 06:51 PM

Got my current profile up. White steps are the spells he can only cast while Miranda and him are in sync, red are his own.

The step names are subject to change as more combos appear.

I'll probably post something in game today or tomorrow.

Edit: Now we can see how good Alex is at doing interior design. =D

Arhra 02-11-2009 07:47 AM

Ah, sorry for letting this go neglected people. I can only blame ennui.

Phil, Rhiya, Teal, we talked over your changes already so this is just to say everything looks good. Teal, it would be good if you'd edit in that note about the significance of the colours under the magic description though.

AB, I don't think you have any changes, so its all fine. There wasn't anything you wanted to change or add?

Naqel, I do find that rune creation potentially troublesome, seeing it negates the diffiuclty in having components in the first place.

Menarker, cut that profile down! It's three times the size of everyone else's and doesn't need to be! Big blocks of undifferentiated text are hard to read.

I find Vengeful Hunter's Pursuit could be a lot of awkwardness, given your description of it, seeing many of the attacks you'd use it on are energy bolts being fired from a distance by a flying target.

Perservering Assault feels a bit odd to me and I don't know why...

Also, while I think of it...
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"What ever happened to her eloquent and serenely soothing behavior from yesturday?" It's like someone took my ideal of a kinky and excitable yet compassionate girlfriend and combined it with a cute cat... but if she could shapechange into a humanoid cat-girl... wonder what she would look like..."

Wut?

Astral Harmony 02-11-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Arhra (Post 895335)
AB, I don't think you have any changes, so its all fine. There wasn't anything you wanted to change or add?

Too early. Shimizu barely fought at all, and didn't even stick around for the PvP.

If I'm adding anything, I had ideas for a kind of bit system to start trying later, like those options in the Gladius games that can allow for some different skills and advanced tactics. But it's still too early and I'm not quite sure how Shimizu will even find these bits.

...Maybe Ponpon and Bright Day should get together for a little bow chikka bow wow or whatever.

Naqel 02-11-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Arhra (Post 895335)
Naqel, I do find that rune creation potentially troublesome, seeing it negates the diffiuclty in having components in the first place.

I still need all the components being obtained the regular way. Just that now a set of ten small stones and an oil lamp, becomes a single small stone(the rune).

The deal is that the components, while still there, are in a handier form, but I can't use them separately for another spell that'd use only some of them.

phil_ 02-11-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Arhra
Wut?

Did you read Omamori Himari? 'Cause if you didn't, don't I mean, it explains what he's getting at by the end of the first chapter.

It wouldn't be funny to link that thing from AMV Hell again, would it?

Menarker 02-11-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Arhra (Post 895335)
Menarker, cut that profile down! It's three times the size of everyone else's and doesn't need to be! Big blocks of undifferentiated text are hard to read.

I find Vengeful Hunter's Pursuit could be a lot of awkwardness, given your description of it, seeing many of the attacks you'd use it on are energy bolts being fired from a distance by a flying target.

Perservering Assault feels a bit odd to me and I don't know why...

Also, while I think of it...

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Originally Posted by Menarker
"What ever happened to her eloquent and serenely soothing behavior from yesturday?" It's like someone took my ideal of a kinky and excitable yet compassionate girlfriend and combined it with a cute cat... but if she could shapechange into a humanoid cat-girl... wonder what she would look like..."
Wut?


Ok, in regards to the size, I'll try to cut it down, but lot of it is clarification of how the techniques works. Thought of reducing the "Clutter" by putting all the moves in box spoilers. Will see what else can be done.

Let me see if I can pull out a useful example of VHP in ranged combat. It has a decent charge-time requirement, which enables about maybe 4-5 uses in a battle that lasts 3 minutes. Basically, since Menarker is a mostly mid-close fighter, he basically needs to keep in close range, which is difficult if he can't occasionally bypass their assault. In a normal projectile combat, the opponent would effectively weave back and forth, slinging bolts, only approaching slowly upon a succession of hits where they may either go into melee or continue to pelter with ranged attacks if they feel that is all that is needed. In Mern's case, he isn't a specialist in ranged combat, so they aren't that strong, intimidating or likely to hit, plus his flight capabilities are subpar to the others. The result THEN would be that he would be peltered by attacks forcing him back due to knockback/damage and his offensive capabilties be reduced only to the uses of reflect and using Mero's offensive form. A boring fight both as the player and as a character concept.

WITH the use of VHP, the peltering attacks would still be mostly effective, but once in a while in a heated battle(Every 30 seconds if the opponent is a frickin button spamming), Menarker will "super-speed insightfully" past the projectiles and appear in melee range of the foe, forcing a sort of chase/melee combat. The opponent would still be able to react, shooting bolts in close range, running away in a high speed chase fraught with pressure in the effort to regain ranged superiority, evasive action, or slug it out in melee. However, both characters would be able to use most of the combat tricks in their disposal without forcing the other player in a sort of submission. Ideally I do want to be able to force someone to use an "Ohshit" button if I roleplay it well. :3

I came up with this move in response to the fight with the Director, where I felt that the onslaught of ranged attacks at incredible speed, range and frequency combined with portals to enhance that and his melee attacks, had shut me out of the fight and made me mostly useless in comparision to the others. Granted, I had not had my character learn Reflect yet (only only used it once as an "in charcter" accident), but I want to be able to gain a favorable fighting environment once in a while, even if not constantly.

For Preserving Assault, I hardly know what to adjust about it. It's a potent effect to enable a safer headstrong/suicide rush or "OHSHIT, SHIELDS UP" button, but short lived and has a recharge time that renders it usable only once in a short battle. If you grasp what exactly you find questionable about it, let me know. ^^

In regards to that "combining girlfriend into cat" thing, that was just Mern daydreaming. He has no girlfriend or any friendships close to it, and the closest he got is his familar, which isn't even the same species. I'm not planning on making Mero have any shapeshifting or implying anything else from it.

EDIT: And yes, Phil has pointed out exactly the sort of inspiration in mind. :3

phil_ 02-11-2009 01:31 PM

You know what I think would help make your spell list more readable, Menarker? In most RPGs I've played, spells have a fluff description followed by a mechanical description. For example, Animate Dead in D&D is described as "Creates undead skeletons and zombies" in the Wizard spell list. But then, in the spell description, it's:
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Necromancy [Evil]
Level: Clr 3, Death 3, Sor/Wiz 4
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Targets: One or more corpses touched
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No

This spell turns the bones or bodies of dead creatures into undead skeletons or zombies that follow your spoken commands.

The undead can follow you, or they can remain in an area and attack any creature (or just a specific kind of creature) entering the place. They remain animated until they are destroyed. (A destroyed skeleton or zombie can’t be animated again.)

Regardless of the type of undead you create with this spell, you can’t create more HD of undead than twice your caster level with a single casting of animate dead. (The desecrate spell doubles this limit)

The undead you create remain under your control indefinitely. No matter how many times you use this spell, however, you can control only 4 HD worth of undead creatures per caster level. If you exceed this number, all the newly created creatures fall under your control, and any excess undead from previous castings become uncontrolled. (You choose which creatures are released.) If you are a cleric, any undead you might command by virtue of your power to command or rebuke undead do not count toward the limit.

Skeletons: A skeleton can be created only from a mostly intact corpse or skeleton. The corpse must have bones. If a skeleton is made from a corpse, the flesh falls off the bones.

Zombies: A zombie can be created only from a mostly intact corpse. The corpse must be that of a creature with a true anatomy.

Material Component: You must place a black onyx gem worth at least 25 gp per Hit Die of the undead into the mouth or eye socket of each corpse you intend to animate. The magic of the spell turns these gems into worthless, burned-out shells.

Your character's spells have the second part, but the first part is kinda buried in rules and time limits and exceptions. If you put, for example, "Vengeful Hunter's Pursuit: teleports for a counter attack," then followed it with rules, the rest of us could more easily understand what it does. Arhra would still have to read it, but at least he'd know what he was trying to understand, and you'd still have the rules in case of exceptions and such that you could point out when relevant.

For another example, let's use Panko's Mega Paw. "A focused destructive wave in the shape of a giant bear paw, focused on her paw." Note that I have nothing beyond one sentence, yet I'm pretty sure there won't be any issues with this attack on how it works or what it looks like. Sometimes a little is enough.

Menarker 02-11-2009 01:42 PM

Alright, I'll deal with that when I get the time. Got University to go to. Sounds like a perfectly reasonable piece of advice. ^^

EDIT: Ok, edited it, although it was DAMN hard to squeeze the fluff AND the explanation within the 20000 character limit.

And honestly? I dunno why I didn't come up with the idea myself. I play DnD a bit. ^^;

Teal Mage 02-11-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Arhra (Post 895335)
Teal, it would be good if you'd edit in that note about the significance of the colours under the magic description though.

Added the basic description about the Coloured Steps.

As I said, the names are subject to change later on. Since I'll need to add a new step for each combo and I have a feeling there'll be some colour overlap.

Arhra 02-12-2009 07:18 AM

Discussion lives on!


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