The difference between the two being that you have to 'activate' the fang dagger. The Klaive does its duty without being asked.

wilpower can fix that and with the klaive you have the deal with the whole gnosis reduction and hand burning thing.

You know, the funny thing is, I want to know too... There is no explenation for why they are there or what they do or how they effect the weapon, they are just there, and it's pretty annoying because I have a feeling they are important somehow...

As for the activation, I didn't think a Willpower Point would be used for activating the dagger, I figured that only the specific roll would cover it properly. I thought Willpower points were only used when you needed to resist something?

If I'm correct, IHMN is a Get of Fenris. That's 3 Willpower, people.

Not to strong of Will is he?

Temptation: Hey! Hey, IHMN! Thrash that homeless guy over there with your Grand Mallet.
IHMN: But he's just a homeless guy. Why would I want to do that?
Temptation: *shrugs* Something to do, isn't it?
IHMN: Temptaion:46585. Willpower: 3. IHMN SMASH!

... wonderful white wolf books. Always so user friendly.

My thought is that either it's the minimum gnosis you have to have to attune the fetish or it's the gnosis rating that is used for the fetishes activation roll. It's also possible that it's the difficulty of the attunment roll.

willpower can be used to grant an automatic success on any roll unless the rules say you can't spend willpower on that roll.

EDIT:
that's why I told him to spend freebies on wilpower.

Like IHMN resisting the urge to be IHMN? Or to beat the homeless senselessly?

I'll do a little research on the Gnosis, but I'm more or less sure that they are the minimum Gnosis that you need to either attune to it, or use it.

Researching away!

edit: - Chapter 7, Pg 153 Heading: Fetishes. 5th paragraph.

That makes sense. So basically, if you were going to make one, this is the roll you would need to succeed at to make it. Makes sense to me, especially when the book goes into talking about making your own fetishes. Although activation roll sounds good too, and if it was attunement, wouldn't the rolls get higher and harder? I'm thinking this is the Activation Roll number.

EDIT: Well, Demon got it, it's the Attunement Number.

Well that clears some things up.

And there was much rejoicing, yay.

I'll try to get up a packet on the Demon Houses later tonight, but I really need to get to work on this project.

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