yes, but electricity is much more similar to mutant powers in this, because it's within the mutant's (we really need to find out his name, calling him "the mutant" isn't specific enough) sphere of experience. Magic, on the other hand, is not. He wouldn't be able to counter something he had never encountered before, and there are no actual magic-users in his world.

also, the "Catholic god" you refer to is also worshipped by the Protestants, (including me) they are one and the same. Oh, and he's also worshipped by the Jews and Muslims....or did you know that already? God=Ao in all probability, so my example still stands..........I have also explained already how and why Raistlin would beat Q.

It doesn't matter if he's never encountered it our not. He doesn't choose what he disables, he just does. Everything just turns off and stops working when he uses his powers. That includes mutant powers, electricity, guns, basically anything that is not a normal human cell. Magic is not that, so more then likely it would be disabled.

Edit 2 - After a quick Google search, found the guys name to be Leech, though for his powers it only says disable other mutants powers (Since that is the major part of the series), but he still disables other things (Because he did in the series), though it will lead to more argueing and different interpritations.

And for the God, does it matter?


Edit - This is going no where, so new fight.

Ryu (Street Fighter) vs. Iori (King of Fighters).

Magic is beyond that........if it wasn't, Raistlin would never let him get that close, if the mutant approached, Raistlin would back just out of his range, then Teleport several miles away and drop a meteor on him. Raistlin would win even if magic was affected, which it wouldn't be.......besides, would Leech see him as a threat in the first place? Raistlin only entered a fight unprepared once, and that was because he learned at the last minute that defeating Takhisis while on Krynn would result in the destruction of the world, so he had to scrap his previous plan. Anything Leech did, Raist would counter.....possibly by using his own powers against him.

You know... I read all the Dragonlance novels by Margret Weis and Tracy Hickman... who created the world, and so I think I have a pretty good understanding of the power of the gods there. They aren't as strong as the DBZ gods. Sure, if you measure them on the stick of the Z fighters the DBZ gods are pathetic, but remember that Takhisis was able to be battled by a HUMAN fighter and mage... sure, she was able to wipe out entire armies... of humans. Now the Supreme Kai, on the other hand, could just stand there while humans stabbed him and not even feel it. AND Takhisis was one of the strongest gods. Only Paladine was equal to her, unless you count Chaos, who was stronger than all the other gods. But even he was able to be wounded by a knife held by a kender...

Krynn and DBZ are on totally different levels. ONE Z fighter could, most likely, take on all the Krynn gods at once. Chaos might prove to be a slight challenge, just because of his size and how deadly getting close to him is... but that's about it.

Also: Fifthfiend, that card is awesome. I love the picture.

Oh, and here's food for thought. Link versus one winged angel Sephiroth (KH version, where he has his legs and full mobility)? They're on totally different levels, I think we can all agree there... what, with Sephiroth being able to teleport around at will, kill someone with a single spell as well as drain all their magic, and the fire pillar spell is like Din's Fire only better... Yet at high levels beating Sephiroth isn't even all that difficult, so long as you have on two MP rages, and manage to disrupt most of the sin harvests... and at max level it's downright easy so long as you disrupt most of the sin harvests...

On that note: How about Viewtiful Joe vrs Sora?

wow... just wow... this thread gets out of hand. Consider me unsubscribed.

Yeah, that's right, you link right to my quote and kick yourself in the face in doing so. See that little "made by the infamous Elminster?" addition? So, my "Read Between The Lines" card is played on you, too. Besides, your post didn't contain anything about the battles, was just a remark about a card.

IHMN, first of all, "Whiny Bitch" is in play on you. Secondly, thought you were going to drop the whole Raistlin battles thing?

And krylo, it's for that very reason that Raistlin was able to beat the gods.

[Edit]IHMN, according to you, Ryu owns all. However, I'm putting my money or Iori because he's part of the Orochi bloodline, and in KOF97 when you fight him, he goes beserk and starts tearing everything a new hole. Besides, Iori is evil, while Ryu is not, and would try to preserve Iori's life while Iori tries to rip him to shreds. Besides, he tricked his partners into having sex with him; that's just a cold blow.

And, depending on if yo count H-doujins to be part of the continuum, Iori has tentacles.[/Edit]

Krylo........Takhisis was significantly weaker in her avatar form (since she was actually present on Krynn), it also took a major artifact, the Dragonlance, to wound her.....she wasn't actually killed by it, it just caused her immense pain. Then Huma told her that more Knights were coming, bringing their Dragonlances, and at the thought of being stabbed by more of these she finally agreed to leave Krynn. The book which told the story of Huma and Magius wasn't written by Weis & Hickman, it was by one of the other Dragonlance authors.....It's alright that you didn't know about the details of the story, don't blame yourself.

The Supreme Kai was stabbed while in his true (non-avatar) form, and with normal weapons.......of course he wasn't injured, since he has damage reduction (or something similar).....

[edit] I'm sorry that a flame war seems to have started here.......can't we all just state our arguments logically (or try to), and actually reach eachother's posts before we render judgements? It would solve so many problems......

Yah, the card thing is getting a bit silly. Once and awhile one of them will be funny... but come on now. I mostly just liked the picture of Sora standing over Link's beaten body. It made me chuckle...

And the Supreme Kai wasn't injured when he was stabbed because his power level is enough to wipe out whole planets with a thought. It has nothing to do with damage reduction. You're thinking in DnD terms... in DnD terms all the Z fighters would be something like level 300 monks, and the gods would be in the 250s or so. Maybe higher. I'm judging that on level 20 being 'epic' and having immense power... for DnD. Also, the Supreme Kai doesn't have other 'forms'. He's just himself, or himself fused with Kabuto-Kai from playing with the fusion earrings.

And yes, she may be weaker when on Krynn, and it may have taken an artifact to wound her... BUT the dragonlances are only deadly because they can pierce dragon scales. Dragon scales are nothing compared to how tough the Z fighters have to be. Evil piccolo, back in Dragon Ball, killed a LEGENDARY dragon with a single blast. This was before anyone on the show was even able to wipe out planets. Goku was able to take those same blasts, and he was around 10 years old.

Also: If it's not written by Weis and Hickman, it's just a fan-fic. They made the world, they decide what's canon.

Every bit of evidence suggests that the DBZ gods are stronger than Dragonlance gods. That the Z fighters are stronger than the people of Krynn, etc. etc.

The only reason I say that a Goku/Raistlin fight would be close is because of spells like Sphere of Annihilation, and the fact that Raistlin is a genius. However, Goku is FAR more powerful. It's only Raist's brains that make the fight close enough to argue... and the gods of Krynn are NOT that smart. They can't even things up like that, and the power gap is just as large.

Ripping words right out of your arguement, a DBZ dragon is not on par with a Dragonlance dragon. It's sub-par. DBZ dragons are more like snakes with hands, and snake scales are not tough.

Firstly, I know that, but it was called at a random time for no reason, so I ignored it. And second, did I mention Raistlin? All I've been doing is talking about Leech and his powers.


I never said Ryu owns all, just most mortal human people. And Ryu has something along the lines of the 'Blood Iori' and Orochi Bloodline, he has 'Evil Ryu' and the 'Dark Hado'. These two seemed like a good match, being in the top of their leagues in their worlds, then both having a powered up evil form.

DBZ dragons can do almost anything via wishes. How is that weak?