Krylo, I agree completely with you........that's why I've been stressing Raistlin's intelligence, not his ability to annihilate planets. If the Z fighters attacked Krynn, they would have to deal with Raistlin, and whatever powerups the gods gave him.....he would probably kill them off one-by-one. by "true" form, I meant that the Supreme Kai was his actual self instead of an Avatar. The book wasn't a fanfic, since it was written by one of the Dragonlance staff, and approved by Weis & Hickman.

on a side note, thank you for actually reading my arguments and responding in a coherent fashion.....it has become considerably more rare around here recently.

IHMN, DBZ dragons are much like Genies.....they can't grant their own wishes, they can only grant the wishes of others, so they aren't strong for that reason.

The DBZ characters wouldn't sense the moons' power because they would turn into giant monkeys (and wreak devastation and mayhem until something killed them) and they can't detect magic anyways (I already told you why, and I told you repeatedly, too)

The reason Raistlin would beat Goku has NOTHING to do with their respective power, it is simply that Raistlin would apply tactics and use his genius intellect to find a way to beat Goku, or turn his own powers against him (I know there's an epic-lvl spell that absorbs damage dealt to you, then allows you to turn it back on them the next time they touch you, or the next time you touch them)

Are genies weak? I've never heard of a weak genie (Especially after the genies become free).

But Raistlin only has time for one spell before Goku (Or Gogeta) can kill him, and he has less then half a second to choose which spell he wants to use.

Genies aren't weak, they just can't grant their own wishes.....they have other magic, though.

Raistlin can stop time, he has as long as he damn well pleases to pick and choose his spells.

heck, Raistlin could just cast Wish, and use it to remove all of Goku/Gogeta's power and combat ability.....or maybe just turn him into something harmless and weak, like a newt.

Also, many of Raistlin's spells wouldn't even be noticed (considering that magic can't be detected by saiyans) by Goku/Gogeta.....and Raistlin would have cast all of his defensive spells in advance.

Yeah. Not even the Z Fighters could stop that one frog-creature from the Ginyu Force from stopping time.

the frog creature made dumb mistakes though, which is why he died.....and it took him longer to stop time than it would take Raistlin.

Aw crap, went back into this Raistlin crap. I'll just stop now.

Though, on the frog guy time stopping thing, it didn't take him a long time to stop time. He just has to stop breathing.

Since Ryu vs. Iori was a bore, a new fight.

Chipp Zanuff (Guilty Gear XX) vs. Spiderman.

Raistlin would just have to decide to, one thought and BAM! Time Stop......Goku wouldn't have a chance, and would spend the rest of his life as a newt.....or as a newt in a temporal prison, so that his friends couldn't just wish him back to life.

On the topic of Goku turning into a newt, when Vegitto (Much weaker then the Goku we are using) was turned into chocolate, he still fly around and kicked Buu's ass. Buu was actually forced to change him back.

BAM!

You stated Ryu, not Dark Ryu.


I play by "Read Between The Lines" card on you. HOW IS GRANTING WISHES RELEVANT TO A PERSON'S ARMOR!? "I can grant wishes so I'm immortal. Blah blah blah." WTFE.

Oh, and just to spit in your face, here's our earlier Hanzo vs Ryu arguements.

BAM!? I said ninjas>all (Mostly). For one, Ryu is not a ninja. Two, notice the (Mostly), meaning not all.

It's the same person.



Your point?