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BitVyper 05-16-2004 10:49 PM

Remember; practically the entire fight between Freezer and Goku took place in a five minute span of time. That was what? Ten episodes?

Fifthfiend 05-16-2004 10:52 PM

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VJ's powers include moving so fast that there are up to 6 of him on the screen, being able to survive barrages of bullets, and being able to slow down time to the point that he can see bullets and dodge them ala Neo, or hit them and knock them back at his enemies. Which kind of mimic's Sora's abilities with the parries against ranged weapons...
Well, sounds like just about no contest in the speed category -- much as I like Sora, a guy who dodges bullets isn't going to have too much fear of the Keyblade.

Only a couple options for Sora --

-getting a reasonable distance between himself and VJ and using Strike (the boomerang move), which never misses (in the game he's invincible while using it, but I'd probably dismiss that as *gasp!* a game mechanic).

-Managing to pull off a Stopga before all 6 Joes whomp the crap out of him.

Aside from that, I don't see Sora getting a win -- unless Sora's at such a high level relative to Joe that Joe's attacks do infinitesimally small damage. Which I see as unlikely.

Omega 05-16-2004 10:58 PM

time for a udderly rediculus VS question

a shark with the ability to travel through time VS a walrus with the ability to stop time

IHateMakingNames 05-16-2004 10:59 PM

Depends.

Walrus can only freeze the time he is in, while the Shark can go to any time. Just go back and kill the mother of the Walrus. But, if the Walrus can freeze time before the Shark can go back in time, the Walrus wins.


Also, how about the Prince of Persia: SoT guy vs. Viewtiful Joe?

Fifthfiend 05-16-2004 11:01 PM

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I fail to see how you got that they only fight for 1/30 of a second. For one, they wouldn't be fighting at speeds faster then light, that's dodging. But, even if they did, why would the fights only last 1/30 of a second?
If they can't cover 6000 miles at the speed of light, they cannot move at the speed of light for 1/30 of a second. QED.

If we're saying they only use lightspeed for dodging (never minding the fact that a significant fraction of each fight... pretty all of it, for example... is spent dodging), accelerating to light-speed, moving a few yards away, and stopping on a dime would take so much power that going another 3000 miles would be chump change on top of that.

Once you're going that fast, the usual sources of drag -- air friction, gravity, etc. -- aren't going to hold you back that much, so you wouldn't have to expend too much energy keeping at speed. The barriers are getting up to speed to begin with, then somehow stopping again.

Omega 05-16-2004 11:01 PM

definatly the prince or persia

any one who can reverse time is basically invulnerable except to an instant death move

IHateMakingNames 05-16-2004 11:03 PM

Dodging the energy blast, not the punches.

And while it won't hold them back much, maybe it just holds them back enough?

Edit - I do not know or claim to know physics, but I go by what the series say. And since this is all unrealistic, that holds more grounds then physics.

Edit 2 - If we start using physics and such into these fights, basically nothing can happen.

Fifthfiend 05-16-2004 11:07 PM

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definatly the prince or persia

any one who can reverse time is basically invulnerable except to an instant death move
Yeah, and while dodging bullets is cool, there's no comparison for when you take a shot at someone, and they dodge and hit you <i>retroactively before you ever pulled the trigger</i>.

And actually, he's even invulnerable to instant death -- In my game that dude impaled himself on iron spikes, then got right back up again a whole lot of times.

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that holds more grounds then physics.
Only if we're assuming that the characters only speak the absolute Holy Truth and are posessed of God-like omniscience in all things. It's much more likely that they're dumb where science is concerned.

And besides, at this point you're arguing away just about all physical laws, as well as the law of basic cause and effect. At this point, when Goku punches Vegeta, Krillin should sponaneously turn into a Key Lime Pie.

Creative liberties are one thing, but you've pushed suspension of disbelief right over a cliff.

Omega 05-16-2004 11:08 PM

well i guess he has to be instantly brain dead for him to lose

IHateMakingNames 05-16-2004 11:09 PM

In the game it says that buttons on the daggers are what controls the time powers, so I guess he always has his thumb right on the reverse time button, so if he dies his thumb may press down and reverse time.


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