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Krylo 05-22-2004 12:19 AM

Also, to change his propellsion, he'd just have to fire off a spirit gun blast. They do have kick... he has to stance himself for shooting them, and he's used them to buffer falls and shit before.

Lucas 05-22-2004 12:31 AM

when yusuke shoots kuwabara into toguro, it proves the spirit gun forces movement, so krylo's kick exists, besides, has anyone seen the post-dark tournament yusuke? if he can get that strong, then yusuke>beetlejuice anyday

Otaku Son 05-22-2004 12:41 AM

IHMN, are you forgetting the whole reason the mirror was brought up was to prove Yusuke can't think quickly?

And what makes me think Beetlejuice can make portrals wherever he wants is because he can. He did it in the cartoon and movie. If you want to start limiting the contestants to what they could do in their games, then Yusuke is extremely limited because all he could do in the game was Spirit Gun.

And once Yusuke has gotten stronger, just how often does he get kicked back by his Spirit Gun? Either he's weak Yusuke who gets knocked back by his Spirit Gun, or he's strong Yusuke who doesn't get knocked back by his Spirit Gun. It's a lose-lose either way.

And I never cared much about post-Dark Tournament because it started getting waaaay too DBZish(besides, there's a lot of fanfics about the second Dark Tournament over at www.fanfiction.net, and that also turns me off to YYH).

Krylo 05-22-2004 12:46 AM

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just how often does he get kicked back by his Spirit Gun? Either he's weak Yusuke who gets knocked back by his Spirit Gun, or he's strong Yusuke who doesn't get knocked back by his Spirit Gun. It's a lose-lose either way.
Do you not understand physics at all? I'm sorry, that's kind of flamish, but it's really seeming like you don't.

Strength versus kick is force versus force. The force of the blast will overcome inertia from something of Yusuke's size and weight. It can overcome inertia for kuwabara, who is much larger than Yusuke, it can definately overcome it for him.

The reason he doesn't get knocked back is because he counters the force of the blast with balancing force of his own, or by rooting himself to increase the amount of force needed to overcome his inertia.

Because his size and weight stay constant, however, only by exertion of force from him directly can the gun NOT knock him back.

Also, as it gets more powerful, he would have to counter balance the with more force. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Bigger blast = bigger kick.

To give a real life example, jump in the air and fire an 8-gauge shotgun with overstuffed shells.

Now stand on the ground, brace your feet properly, and try again.

In the above example you will be propelled backward, in the lower you will hold your ground. If you brace the butt of the gun properly, you won't even feel it much.

Otaku Son 05-22-2004 12:51 AM

Okay, but there's still the whole "he's already inside the door so Beetlejuice can just shut the door right behind him" thing, and the "he's not very good about thinking fast" thing. As IHMN already pointed out, his natural reacton would be to each out and try to grab something. And to furter prove he wouldn't be smrt enough to fire his Spirit Gun to keep himself from falling, just look at the numerous falls he's taken. If he were able to think fast enough to use his Spirit Gun to put him back upright, why doesn't he?

Krylo 05-22-2004 12:54 AM

Because he can only fire his spirit gun a limited number of times, and falls don't hurt him normally.

"Gee, shall I use one of one to five shots that I can actually take in order to stop my hitting the ground, which won't even hurt... or should I save it for the enemy."

On the other hand: "Gee, shall I use one of the five shots that I can actually take to stop myself being locked in another universe, or save it for the enemy... thus keeping myself stuck here for god knows how long."

Otaku Son 05-22-2004 01:02 AM

Oh, so now you'resaying he has five limied shots? Then how can he fire like crazy at Beetlejuice?

Krylo 05-22-2004 01:14 AM

...I demand you go and watch the show. Now it's just blatantly obvious that you've never seen much of it.

You're arguing from the point of ignorance, thus your arguements have no value.

Otaku Son 05-22-2004 01:19 AM

Hey, I BSed my way this far at you couldn't tell, I figure that earns some credit. But even so...Yusuke has a limited five shots, isn't very fast at thinking...what else am I forgetting?

Krylo 05-22-2004 01:20 AM

He has five full shots at the beginning of the dark tournament (and a bit before that too), but he can use one or all of them for a shotgun blast, which splits the energy into MANY smaller blasts, capable of covering a large area. He can also do the spirit wave thing.

I think he also gains more at some point during the tournament, but I'm not 100% sure. It's been awhile.

ALSO, he's not a slow thinker. Your entire arguement for that comes from him deciding to shoot an artifact he was trying to retrieve instead of dying. Because we all know that death is OBVIOUSLY better than breaking a mirror.


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