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Dragonsbane 05-24-2004 07:44 PM

not 8-bit Fighter.........a level 20 D&D fighter........and a +5 Corrosive Bastard Sword could penetrate that alloy........

BitVyper 05-24-2004 07:52 PM

I go by the comic standards for the Transformers. They were all a lot stronger there, and they didn't miss nearly as much.

Kazastankas 05-24-2004 07:59 PM

And Megatron, who's probably Colossal or Colossal+, would take the trouble to lockon and zap the guy with a 20d6 Vorpal (don't ask) laser of ouch.

BMHadoken 05-24-2004 08:31 PM

And unless this fighter is covered in head to toe in DnD protector-all goodness, one blast is gunna complety eradicate any open flesh, then with the stomping.

Fifthfiend 05-24-2004 08:35 PM

I still say Megatron transforms into the handgun, waits for the Fighter to pick him up, and blows his head off. Ah well...

New Combat!

Batman vs. the Midnighter

Batman has access to the full range of his wonderful toys. No preparation though... say, they meet in a dark alley and decide to beat the hell out of each other.

IHateMakingNames 05-24-2004 08:40 PM

Batman would win. Batman almost always win.

If Batman can't win by his fighting and gadgets, he will hit on the Midnighter and seduce him, then beat him over the head with a metal object.

BitVyper 05-24-2004 08:50 PM

Is that anything like a vorpal staff? Anyway, being gigantic also gives Megatron minuses to hit, and that's where his real problem is going to lie. He can deal the damage, but it's like trying to hit a pixie with a ballista, except in this case, the pixie is wearing enchanted equipment and knows how to kick ass.

However, here's what I think it comes down to:

Megatron has to have at the very least, 800 hp, and he's a construct, so the fighter will have to work his way through every last bit of it. Our fighter (we'll say he has str 22) can deal 1d10 (bastard sword, right?) +1d6 acid +6 str +5 magical six (an extra for haste, right?) times in a round (face it, he won't miss.) That's an average of 114 damage in a round, so he can kill Megatron in roughly seven to eight rounds. Now, it's going to be nigh impossible for Megatron to land a hit on this guy with anything, despite any advanced targeting systems, so when he does, it has to count. For this reason, I say Megatron sticks with the cannon, as one good shot from it is not only going to do some incredible damage, but possibly break a couple of enchanted items as well, at the very least forcing all of them to make saves. To be fair, Megatron can probably make 2 attacks with that thing in a round. Now I would say the cannon criticals on a fairly low roll, and Megatron, always the opportunist, probably has improved critical with it, but we'll say he needs a twenty just to get something of an idea here. If he crits that fighter, it's pretty much over. I'd rather be hit with the full force of a meteor swarm. Megatron has a 1/10 chance of scoring a critical each round, so even with the fairly conservative stats on Megatron's side, there's a very high probability that Megatron is going to vaporize him some time throughout, but it isn't a sure thing. It all comes down to luck for this fight I think, however, this isn't considering the fact that Megatron's armour might give the fighter some trouble, or that Megatron has the equivilant of a shield spell constantly in effect. It also isn't taking into account a couple of possible strategies the fighter could employ with his assortment of magical items, however, I think it makes clear the fact that this is anyone's game.

Edit: So this is what years of playing D&D teaches you; to be an accountant.

Edit2: I didn't have my trusty PHB handy, so a couple of those stats could be a bit off.

IHateMakingNames 05-24-2004 09:00 PM

... You are thinking way to hard on this. Think of it in a simplier way.

Megatron has lasers. Lasers move at the speed of light. Now, for the fighter to hit Megatron, he has to get right up against him. Megatron just blast him with a laser point blank, fighter dies.

Kazastankas 05-24-2004 09:01 PM

I'm pretty sure a lock-on would make the dodging fighter go bye-bye. No matter what you say, a fighter isn't going to outrun homing beams of pain. Remember, Megatron's alloy will give him quite the formidable DR.

Sithdarth 05-24-2004 09:18 PM

Egads. I'm in the hospital for a week with a burst appendix and you guys run away with th thread. (Anyone care to give a quick update of the major fights atleast. I really don't want to read 20+ pages.)

I have to side with Megatron he is big, has lasers, and the metal of their bodies is not normal earth metals. Hell in fact the fighter gets close and risks accidently getting stepped on or kicked or something. Plus the transformers are pretty swift movers much faster than humans. Then of course if Megatron had his Tidalwave armor the fighter stands no chance what so ever; however I assume this is a pretty limited fight on Megatrons end.

Edit: Did I say 20+ pages. Quick recalculation 60+ pages.


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