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IHateMakingNames 06-01-2004 02:24 PM

Death Star can't win. The Death Star would be able to kill either Galactus or Unicron, but the one not killed would then eat the Death Star. The planet destroying beam can't recharge fast enough to shoot them both, and the other weapons wouldn't be able to stop either of them in time to be eaten. And since the Death Star is just moon size, it can easily be eaten.

Doesn't Galactus not actually eat planets, just suck them dry?

Dragonsbane 06-01-2004 05:20 PM

the second death star could recharge within minutes.......and unlike the two big robots, it can travel through hyperspace.

Krylo 06-01-2004 06:24 PM

It could take down one robot easily with the planet destroying ray, then start blasting the hell out of the other with it's multitude of turbolaser arrays, and it's huge tie fighter squadrons could be shooting it in the eye. It'd only have to distract the second long enough to be able to charge for a second shot.

Fifthfiend 06-01-2004 07:40 PM

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Let's assume this is a completed version of the 2nd death star, the one where they got rid of the exhaust-port weakness, and assume it's being commanded by Darth Vader and the Emperor.
I have some difficulty with the fact that we're using a version of the Death Star that never actually existed... but it's whatever.

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the second death star could recharge within minutes
Yeah, but it'd take less than that for either Unicron to wrap his claws around it, or for Galactus to sink his planet-leechers into it, and then it's going to be rendered pretty immobile.

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blasting the hell out of the other with it's multitude of turbolaser arrays
You can't tell me that the Death Star has more combined firepower than all of Cybertron, and Unicron pretty much shrugged that all off.

And Galactus' mere heralds, possessing but a tiny fraction of his power cosmic, were capable of wiping out an entire planet's defenses single-handedly.

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Seriously, I don't even think the main Death Star weapon'd do much to Galactus. I mean, the guy survived the end of the universe (specifically, the universe that existed before the Marvel universe, whose collapse allowed the Marvel universe to come into being). The only thing he ever feared was the Ultimate Nullifier, and that thing was capable of wiping out all creation.

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unlike the two big robots, it can travel through hyperspace.
Galactus could travel at warp speed.

I'm pretty sure Unicron would've had to, I mean, anything capable of inter-world travel would have to be able to do this.

And Galactus wasn't a robot.

Krylo 06-01-2004 08:00 PM

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You can't tell me that the Death Star has more combined firepower than all of Cybertron, and Unicron pretty much shrugged that all off.
Sure I can. We've already discussed, and come to the consensus that a Gundam has more firepower than the most heavily armed transformer, and not just a little more. One turbolaser would be far more powerful than anything a gundam has, being 'DBZ character getting thrown at a building' or so in power. The deathstar has an innumerable number of them. There'd have to be about ten optimus primes for every one turbolaser on the death star to even come close to the fire power that thing can crank out... and that's not counting it's missile and fighter bays. Unicron is completely outmatched.

Galactus has a chance, though. I don't know that much about marvel... if he survived the destruction of the universe, he can most likely survive the main gun of the death star.

MasterOfMagic 06-01-2004 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PsyBlade
Having little info on Marvel's side (and who is Unicorn, I've heard of Unicron, but not Unicorn), I think I'll post my own versus
generic D&D 20th level Wizard w/ 20th level Palidan (sp?) versus Jedi Consular w/ Jedi Guardian

No contest. Jedi Guardians can use the force, so he lifts the Paladin off the ground, throws his lightsaber. Or he uses force speed, and, well, you can guess the rest. That's over.

Jedi Consular dosen't have to speak, or any of that other mumbo jumbo, so his "spells" happen instantaneously(sp?). That means, as Dante said, all he has to do is choke the wizard so that he can't speak. Plus, the Consular is still fairly good at fighting.

Jedi wins all around.

Sithdarth 06-01-2004 11:22 PM

Except for the fact that the Transformers had large ships when they fought Unicron. Ships that were much more powerful than 10 Optimus Primes and the had a whole damn lot of them. Unicron completely ignored them despite this because it wasn't even enough power to discolor his armor. I highly doubt that any turbo laser is going to do jack to him. I'm not completely convinced that the planet destroying laser whould even destroy him. A planet is made basically of losely bound particles held together by gravity. That is a lot easier to destroy than a giant robot made of tightly bonded particles and metal resistant to energy weapons; not to mention he is held together by his gravity. Unicron has a lot more going for him then you think.

Dragonsbane 06-02-2004 09:24 AM

Krylo does have a very good point, though, do you have ANY idea how much energy it takes to blow up an entire planet? The second death star, even though it wasn't fully completed (we're assuming this is a completed version of the second death star) was able to blast through the shields on some of the Rebels' biggest and most heavily shielded vessels........and the bolt continued after destroying them (it's easy to miss, but it does happen).

new fight!
Samus Aran vs. Darth Vader

Viktor Von Russia 06-03-2004 09:52 PM

I'm sure Vader would win. In most situations, the Force beats all. Plus, I'm fairly confident a lightsaber could deflect most, if not all, of Samus's beam weapons.

Krylo 06-03-2004 09:55 PM

Who needs a lightsaber when he can just use the force to choke her. Not like the force is stopped by metal... he choked one guy over the phone (well... the SW equivalent of a phone).


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