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pixiestix 02-12-2009 01:03 PM

metallica is by far one of my favor bands but i agree with the people who say its sucks. it doesnt suck in the sense that it is complete garbage, i mean being used to the sounds they've produced before its just a bloody let down man.

synkr0nized 02-22-2009 04:44 AM

not a fan of it
 
Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Newsted
As a fan, it’s pretty hard to listen to, tonality-wise. I think it’s not very pleasing to the human ear.

James's signing sounds shoddy and half-assed.
The lyrics are.. well, not the best, but not the worst.
trash-can lid drums
no exciting solos; Hell, no solos at all (why waste Kirk's talents?)
The album as a whole does a great job of blending together into one, bland series of un-inspiring dirty guitar riffs on top of lame yell-talking.

Death Magnetic** at least feels like a more natural connection between Metallica now and Metallica as they were prior to its release, coming from Load/ReLoad.


** though this album is plagued by the guitar track(s) drowning out most everything else, especially the singing, making it a departure from the previous quality of their albums (for more, just look up how many people are downloading and ripping the music from Guitar Hero instead of the album)

Cid Highwind 04-02-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All Within My Hands
Kill kill kill kill! Kill! Kill! Kill! Killlll! KIIIIIIILLLLLL!

The Direction taken in St. Anger is the logical continuation of what Metallica started with Garage Days Revisited. Basically stepping it up from covers and nostalgia from when Metallica wasnt a polished, experienced, multi-platinum band; to actually playing and producing like they were still in a garage, in their formative days. I'd have to agree that it probably was intended to be a little bad. Lars doesnt play drums like that. Hammet is better at guitar than that. Trujillo was new to the band, but wasnt new at all. And Hetfield can certainly sing better and write more imaginative lyrics now. Just listen to Death Magnetic, for proof.

With that said, I agree that it isnt a good album, by most standards. I cant stand to listen to most of the songs, and I only passably like Saint Anger, the title track. Its just not that good. Butyou can kind of see where they were going with it.

Whomper 04-02-2009 07:19 PM

So as pretty much everyone has said, it doesn't suck, it's just not Master Of Puppets.

However, people have been bashing on every new album Metallica has put out since Load, so I'm not too surprised. What DOES surprise me is that Death Magnetic is getting great reviews all around, which leads me to believe that it could compete with albums like ...And Justice For All and Ride The Lightning.

(Have I named enough albums in this post? :D)

synkr0nized 04-02-2009 11:01 PM

I've been a fan of every album aside from Stanger (I personally feel that Load and ReLoad show off some of the band's maturity as professional musicians and the range of their talents). I cannot fathom why they thought that was a good idea ever.

Cloud Strife 04-02-2009 11:13 PM

One of my co-workers hated St. Anger so much that he told me that the only thing that could make up for it would be a personal face-to-face apology from each member of Metallica. I however, have not heard the album besides 'Frantic'.

Death Magnetic, however, makes me happy. I downright -love- that album, every single song on it. Though the lyrics on 'The Day that Never Comes' scare me. D:

Cid Highwind 04-03-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frantic
FRAN-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tock!
FRAN-tic-tic-tic-tic....


Actually, I'm not saying its even good. I'm just describing why they would even start to think it was good.

Raw sound and sparse lyrics doesnt begin to describe why its wrong. Old-school punk had raw sound and (usually) sparse lyrics, and St. Anger still doesnt begin to compare.
Basically, the best I could describe it is, its like Metallica wrote some lyrics on a napkin, and an hour later, each band member went to a separate studio and played their intruments alone, for an agreed upon length od song, then made a mix of it. Its as if they werent even trying to produce an album with coherence, they just played their instruments for the hell of playing them, and didnt try to make a uniform flow and sound together.


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