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Awake 02-08-2009 12:28 AM

Does BM know Ice magic?
 
Does BM know the Ice spell that RM used on him? If not, then why did he learn Sarda's spell? Except for maybe "A wizard did it".

Shadow Bunny 02-08-2009 12:35 AM

You have to live through having a spell cast on you to learn Blue Magic.

Nuklear Waste 02-08-2009 12:43 AM

It's never really been made clear whether:

A) Blue magic can be used to learn regular spells (in addition to monster stuff), but Black Mage didn't learn Ice because he didn't survive it, which seems the most likely. (If this is the case, then he should know a Cure and/or Life spell from White Mage after those spear incidents, unless he, by default, cannot learn white magic.)
B) Blue magic is limited to monster abilities, and thus Sarda is a monster/fragment of Chaos (either metaphorically or literally).
C) Blue magic is limited to monster abilities, but he only learned Sarda's "BM-only Hlorf" spell (and the reverse) because, like you said, a wizard did it.

Meister 02-08-2009 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Awake (Post 894260)
Except for maybe "A wizard did it".

What you're excepting is precisely the reason. If Sarda wants to customize a spell specifically to screw Black Mage over, he can and he will.

As for ice magic, as soon as it becomes necessary for a joke, he will. If it becomes necessary for another joke afterwards that he doesn't, he won't.

Why would he, anyway? Start up any Final Fantasy with Blue Mages in it and have a Black Mage cast black magic on them. Let us know what happens.

Awake 02-08-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Meister (Post 894285)
What you're excepting is precisely the reason. If Sarda wants to customize a spell specifically to screw Black Mage over, he can and he will.

That is what I thought, but the fact that BM wasn't surprised when he learned the spell is what struck me as odd. Also, he expected that he had learned a cure spell from Sarda. And there was never any mention that he thought it was odd that Sarda was a special case.

Unprodigy 02-10-2009 05:52 AM

Given that Sarda is Sarda, I'm sure he can use Blue magic along with all the other colours of the magebow. Given that he is also Sarda, I'm sure he can create new spells of any type with any effect that falls within its purview on a whim. Finally, given that he additionally is Sarda, if the first two points are not the case, he can probably make them be true for long enough to suit his purposes.

Red King 02-10-2009 08:24 AM

I think too much thought is given to this.

BM learned Goblin Punch..Kick..Thing, whatever. Because it damaged him and he survived. Same reason with Sarda's attack.

He didn't learn cure because only spells that damage you are learned in blue magic(Or that is my experience with it, I could be wrong).

And the reason none of it was explained was because if Brian took the time to explain why everything happened then we'd be up to 2,000 comics by now.


That and Sarda is a jackass.

Zeth 02-10-2009 09:42 AM

If you want to refer back to actual blue magic in actual games, things like Mighty/Big Guard and White Wind are learnable. But certainly not Cure (or for that matter Ice).

bobfish 02-10-2009 10:41 AM

For the record, Sarda is not a jackass. Jackass dentes a lack of competence. Sarda is an ass(hole).

Magus 02-10-2009 11:35 AM

Through actual demonstration, I believe Red Mage knows Ice Magic whereas Black Mage knew Fire magic and probably Bolt. Or something to that effect.

That's my best guess.


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