The Warring States of NPF - One of us always tells the truth, and one of us always lies.

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One of us always tells the truth, and one of us always lies.

This scene just seems to have a lot of potential for funny. Turned into a bit of a forum game somewhere else, so we'll see how it goes here. Post some versions of it you'd like to see. A few I came up with:

"Which door would the other one tell me to take?"
"The wrong one."
"Yeah, but-"
"You only get one question."

"One of us always tells the truth.."
"...and one of us always liesAGGH! What the hell!?"
"Truth be told, I'm just the party's ranger, and they ran out of rations. Hey, if one of you always lies, you can't be a goodly creature, right? Because I think that might cause the cleric some problems if you were. Ah, whatever. I'll just tell them you attacked me. Bunch of babies."

The Nodwick ending.
"One of these paths leads to your goal...."
"...and one to certain doom."
"Hey, henchman! Tie this rope to your waist!"

The Exalted ending:
"One of these paths - Oh shit, he's a solar."
"Right this way to the elevator, sir."
"Sorry to keep you."
"We won't let it happen again."

The Gurren Lagann ending:

"You may ask one of us a single question..."
"...choose your words wisely."
"My drill is the drill that will pierce the heavens!"
"Wait what the hell?"
"Where is that music coming from?"
*in unison* "SWEET MERCIFUL CHRIST!"

Post your own.

Happened in a D&D game my friend ran for some little kids.

Disembodied voice: "One of these statues always lies, the other always tells the truth. Both guard a door, and only one is the right path. You may ask only one question. Choose wisely."

Addressed to both statues: "What would the other guy say?"

They both exploded without giving anything close to a response out of sheer inability to honestly tell the other guy's lie or vice-versa.

The "I ain't got time for this shit" end: "Which one of you will die first?"

The end you pick when one of the monsters is reading a Harry Potter book: "Snape kills Dumbledore."

Me: "One of us always tells the truth, and one of us always tells a lie."
Player: "Well this seems fairly easy-"
Me: "-And that one stabs people who ask tricky questions."
Player: "...shit."

Totally hijacked from xkcd. worth it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khael! (Post 897854)

Uh... you do know that's the standard question?

Well, assuming you're asking "Which door would the other guy say is the correct door?" As written, your question doesn't actually mean anything.

Simply, the liar will tell you that the wrong door is the one the truth teller would say because he is lying, while the truthful guard tells you the wrong door because that is what the liar would say is the correct door.

God.

Although if the guards are assholes, when asked "Which door would the other guy say is the correct door?" they'd answer with "The wrong door."

What a pair of jerks.

"Why is there something when there could have been nothing?" is supposed to be a great question for these circumstances. I'm not sure why.

Ah, good old Knights and Knaves, I did always like this one from Samurai Jack.

Quote:

Jack: If you were your brother, which one would you say was the magic worm?
Worm #2: Which one are you asking?
Jack: It doesn't matter.
Worm #2: Hmmm. That's easy. It's him!
Worm #1: Of course! It's me!
Jack: Then I choose *you*.
[chooses Worm #2 instead]
Worm #1: He knows!
Worm #2: What makes you choose me? I told you it was him!
Worm #1: Yes, me!
Jack: If you were the truth-telling one then what you said would be a lie because you will answer truthfully what your lying brother will say. Therefore I can safely say that the answer will be the opposite of what you say. On the other hand if you were the lying worm then you will tell me what your truth-telling brother will say but it would be a lie, therefore the answer will also be the opposite of what you say. Understand?

The end result was this, but still!

"Choose your words wisely... hey! Where are you going?"
"Oh, we'll be back in six hours or so. The cleric didn't pray for Detect Lies today, so he needs to rest."
"...I hate high magic worlds."
"I love them!"
"Shut up."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arhra (Post 897913)

As written, your question doesn't actually mean anything.

Phrased correctly, its paradox-ish. "What would the other guard say in response to this question?"

Although there's always the chance of the asshole guard saying "I dunno."

I tried this on my PC's in our last game.

Sadly, they were too impatient to try and puzzle it out, and simply decided to have the Wizard blow the door open with a Fireball.

I really hate those guys sometimes...