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The Wizard Who Did It 05-13-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravashak (Post 925876)
Xykon deflected a disintegrate, what does it take to do that?

A level in badass.I acknowledge that this isn't an actual instance of the trope. It's a joke!

Also, I don't see V joining the Evil Team, on the grounds that it just doesn't feel right for the character. Yeah, I wish I had an actual argument.

Professor Smarmiarty 05-13-2009 05:16 PM

I haven't read the ELH in a while but if I remember correctly deflect ray is an epic level feat. Not to mention "Supreme Dispell" which must be an epic level spel.

Aerozord 05-13-2009 05:20 PM

was actually Superb Dispell, which sounds abit silly to me

Zanaril 05-13-2009 05:21 PM

Superb Dispelling, actually.

BitVyper 05-13-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravashak (Post 925876)
Xykon deflected a disintegrate, what does it take to do that?

It's probably just his spell resistance.

Edit: Although since the sound effect actually says "deflect" it could be Deflect Ray. Although, that's kind of an odd feat for him to have, as I'm pretty sure it's prerequisites are mostly monk-ish abilities.

Mirai Gen 05-13-2009 05:48 PM

They are.
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Maximized Harm would still do the same damage, wouldn't it?
For some reason I thought the failed save turned it into caster level in d8s in damage. Not quite sure why. Should've gone for my original idea and said Inflict Critical.

Playing all this 4th has me confused.

Ryong 05-13-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerozord (Post 925811)
From what he said before, it sounds like in every single fight we have seen so far he has taken it easy. Either because of some twisted degree of respect for noble quests or because he is so freakin strong he can afford to fool around

Soon disagrees. If not for Miko, Xykon'd be dead.

...Deader.

Mirai Gen 05-13-2009 06:53 PM

Soon had the extreme advantage of being incorporeal and therefore ultra-resistant to Xykon's spells as well as being a badass.

Although I guess V will be incorporeal soon enough.

BitVyper 05-13-2009 07:05 PM

From what I've heard of the print books, Xykon has never fared that well against those heroes. Epic retired heroes are made of pure win, but they're also more or less guaranteed to never actually finish off the bad guy.

Anyway, I really didn't expect V to be beaten so badly. I didn't think he'd beat Xykon, but goddamn, he just got flattened. But then, if you go into an epic mage-duel without so much as throwing on some SR and an immunity or two, you pretty much deserve what you get.

Mirai Gen 05-13-2009 08:01 PM

He did have SR and preparations. His stuff from his fight with Dragonmommy was still around, if I remember rightly.

V was just way, way too cocky. He teleported in, thinking he could just waltz up and whup the crap out of Xykon. So he got sprung with a Magic Trap. He then used a useless spell against a lich, when he should have at least done some research into the matter first. Then he cast a useful spell, Empowered Sunburst, but then spent his next action casting a pretty useless Dimensional Anchor, thinking of stopping him from fleeing long before he even began to have the upper hand on the fight (V was the only one hurt at that point), not to mention that it was after he just lost like four levels permanently.

He then does things a little smarter but by that point he's already lost enough ground, Xykon can pull out whatever he wants and outdo him.

And since V is now approximately ten levels lower, he most likely can't cast any teleport spells.

V, quite simply, is screwed.

EDIT: Also I so love Tsukiko.


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