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Amake 03-23-2009 03:54 PM

EU presents report on "Human rights on the Internet"; Europeans rejoice
 
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/...EN&language=EN

I'm not entirely sure what this is, but they tell me it's basically orders for the nations of the union at an early stage of formation. It's a lot of sensational directives, concerning Internet censorship, the permission of the state to control or survey the individual's Internet use, the responsibility and freedom of expressing political views on the Internet and the importance of education for everyone from children to lawmakers.

Some of the more interesting parts go like this:
Quote:

*Participate in efforts to make the Internet an important tool for the empowerment of users, an environment which allows the evolution of ‘bottom up’ approaches and of e-democracy

*Ensure together with other relevant actors that security, freedom of expression and privacy, as well as openness on the Internet, are approached not as competing goals, but instead are delivered simultaneously within a comprehensive vision that responds adequately to all these imperatives

*Proceed to the adoption of the directive on criminal measures aimed at the enforcement of intellectual property rights while simultaneously prohibiting, in pursuit of that purpose, the systematic monitoring and surveillance of all users’ activities on the Internet

*Ensure that the expression of controversial political beliefs through the Internet, including with regard to terrorism, is not subject to criminal prosecution

*Recognise the danger of forms of Internet surveillance and control aimed also at tracking every ‘digital’ step of an individual, with the aim of providing a profile of the user and of assigning ’scores’
And this was voted for unanimously. Sounds like we're on the road to free culture I think.

Here in Sweden the media makes it sound like at least half this report is being told at us on account of a recently proposed law that would allow a systematic control of all data being transmitted to or from the country, including SMS and email. That law has made me and everyone I know worry about our future as a paranoid police state, so I'm glad to see it challenged by a higher authority.

Meanwhile, in the United States, I understand they're voting for making the Internet pay-pew-view and owned by the highest bidder. I predict a wave of refugees from the West within the next ten years. :)

Meister 03-23-2009 05:39 PM

Yet here in Germany the minister for family affairs is working on getting ISPs to filter internet traffic, specifically blocking access to child pornography, based on a list of websites the federal police is to make; having a secret list of websites citizens aren't allowed to visit and establishing an infrastructure that theoretically allows the federal police to have any site they want blocked doesn't seem to strike the minister as incompatible to these goals. If I wasn't a non-smoker you could see the column of cigarette smoke from every point in the world.

Osterbaum 03-23-2009 07:11 PM

And at the same time here in Finland companies, schools and even libraries will be given broader rights to monitor trafic in and out of their systems.

bluestarultor 03-23-2009 08:32 PM

This would be really great to have here in the US. Sadly, I don't see it happening what with the government being able to pull up info on everything down to what library books you rented. Patriot Act and all.

Jagos 03-23-2009 09:27 PM

Damn, my article would have been better served here...

Just to show the other stuff the US is doing.

Fifthfiend 03-23-2009 09:35 PM

This also seems discussionsey (as opposed to general discussionsey)

I can see why the distinction might not be so readily apparent these days; I'd rename GD except frankly the tone really has improved around here since Shiney changed it to that.

Magus 03-23-2009 09:38 PM

In the UK and US they are apparently trying to make hentai depicting minors defined as "child pornography", despite it being drawn. The UK is also planning on making pics of various "fetish" porn illegal, as well (although it will, ironically, remain legal to continue doing the fetishes).

I'm not really sympathetic to the crowd who looks at it but I'm pretty sure it's a victimless "crime", and that blocking something on the basis it is "obscene" is usually the first sign of wrongful censorship.

Fifthfiend 03-23-2009 09:40 PM

Even if we brought it back that wasn't meant so much for actually serious issues as it was for like the stupid ass "wacky idiot does something wacky cause he's an idiot" news story threads that we were getting ten a day of cause Seil wouldn't fucking stop posting them.

For news stories where there are actually things to talk about we encourage individual threads for talking about them because this is a forum for talking about things!

Jagos 03-23-2009 09:55 PM

I deleted my post which asked fifth about news threads.

Don't want to make fifth look crazy.

bluestarultor 03-23-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus (Post 906610)
In the UK and US they are apparently trying to make hentai depicting minors defined as "child pornography", despite it being drawn. The UK is also planning on making pics of various "fetish" porn illegal, as well (although it will, ironically, remain legal to continue doing the fetishes).

I'm not really sympathetic to the crowd who looks at it but I'm pretty sure it's a victimless "crime", and that blocking something on the basis it is "obscene" is usually the first sign of wrongful censorship.

Frankly, I think it's stupid to limit what people can draw in the first place. I mean, it's just a drawing. You don't like what's depicted, you don't have to look. In terms of real-life things, some of them are, pardon me for inserting my opinion, so plain wrong that I can see a justifiable concern for banning them. But that's more because of the prospect of bodily harm involved in things like 2 Girls, 1 Cup or Mr. Hands or whatever other shock video is out this week. If it's drawn, nobody gets hurt and the people who are into that kind of thing (and there's probably nothing in the world that at least one person isn't into) still get a product.


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