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BitVyper 03-28-2009 09:56 PM

Things your ability to suspend disbelief can't handle
 
So most of us are willing to put up with a lot of improbable/impossible science/whatever from fiction, but everyone's got little things that just don't pass their filter. It won't bother us twhen someone builds a time travel ray out of pop cans, but our brains go "FUCK YOU," when Superman talks in space. What are some things that don't work for you?

For me, stupidly improbable swords are one of them. I can tolerate your typically extravagant or giant ones, and double light sabres and gunblades only make me cringe a little bit, but stuff like Kadaj's sword in AC just.... argh. Why in god's name would you do that? Even if you could somehow construct it in a way where both blades would actually stay on, all you'd be doing is spreading out the force from your strikes over more surface area, which is the exact opposite of what bladed weapons are supposed to do!

Short hilts on giant swords look all wrong to me as well.

Alternatively; have you ever had a day where your suspension of disbelief just called in sick and couldn't even deal with stuff you usually love?

Viridis 03-28-2009 10:05 PM

It doesn't ruin games for me, but I usually poke fun at every time preteens save the world in games using their hobby/the world's gimmick (Pokemon, etc.). and when the bad guys must use this gimmick in their scheme.

It works in Pokemon because the monsters are fairly crammed full of doom, but looks really silly in things like Megaman Battle Network, where you have to wonder if the bad guys know what a gun is.

POS Industries 03-28-2009 10:06 PM

The movie "Closer" hinged entirely on the idea that there are apparently no English women in all of London. The two female lead characters (played by Natalie Portman and Julia Roberts) were both Americans, and the only other woman with a speaking role was Clive Owen's character's secretary, who had one line delivered in a clear American accent.

I mean, I hated that movie in all kinds of ways but that one really just took the cake for me.

Doc ock rokc 03-28-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BitVyper (Post 908130)
...but stuff like Kadaj's sword in AC just.... argh. Why in god's name would you do that? Even if you could somehow construct it in a way where both blades would actually stay on, all you'd be doing is spreading out the force from your strikes over more surface area, which is the exact opposite of what bladed weapons are supposed to do!

actually his sword is based on a real japanese sword (OK swords that could connect together) and sword style. the blades where so close in order to make the sword wounds unstitchable/unhealable thus more submittable to disease....this was also used in WW1 on a bayonet...it was the shape of a circle but it served the same function. its funny that you disbelieve it so because it is the only weapon (sadly) that logical/real!


I cant get why some supervillians that are smart cant just sell their inventions/weapons to the military or something and become rich that way.

BitVyper 03-28-2009 10:54 PM

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actually his sword is based on a real japanese sword (OK swords that could connect together) and sword style.
Kadaj's sword would not work because...

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OK swords that could connect together......... the blades where so close
Neither of these is true with Kadaj. A katana made with two blades spaced about an inch apart without changing the size or shape of the hilt is not going to last very long.

Also, while I've never heard of this one, there are a whole lot of pointlessly complex weapons and martial arts styles in the world. Japan was chock full of them, though not nearly as bad as some places. The problem is that sticking something sharp on the end of a stick almost always works better than the triple bladed, retractable, folding spear that makes a whistling sound and has a chain attached to the end.

I'd like to get the name of this style if you know it, because I have never heard of it, and it seems pretty unrealistic at least in any feudal battlefield scenario.

Edit: Googling around trying to find the weapon and/or style you're talking about, and I'm not seeing it anywhere.

Doc ock rokc 03-28-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BitVyper (Post 908149)
I'd like to get the name of this style if you know it, because I have never heard of it, and it seems pretty unrealistic at least in any feudal battlefield scenario.

I don't know the styles name but it was a last ditch weapon so that if you die you take the bastard with you

stefan 03-28-2009 11:10 PM

artificial gravity.

motherfucking artificial gravity.

BitVyper 03-28-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc ock rokc (Post 908152)
I don't know the styles name but it was a last ditch weapon so that if you die you take the bastard with you

This really doesn't sound like something I'd spend money giving to a redshirt (ashigaru, in this case). Are you sure it's a sword? The bayonet thing I'm willing to buy, but I cannot see anything at all about this being an actual Japanese weapon.

Anyway, you're basically making my point for me, as even a version of the weapon that could actually physically work is not something you would hand to someone expecting them to actually win a fight with it.

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its funny that you disbelieve it so because it is the only weapon (sadly) that logical/real!
Going back to this for a moment, no it isn't. The fact that it might be inspired by a real weapon does not make it realistic. Every impossible fictional weapon ever has some vague basis in reality. That doesn't make it any less impossible.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
The triangular bayonet, unlike an old urban legend, was not designed to create stab wounds "that were difficult to stitch when attended to by a medic, as it is more difficult to stitch a three-sided wound than a two-sided one, thus making the wound more likely to become infected". This quote ignores the reality of surgery, in that surgeons have sewn up jagged wounds using more stitches when needed, since time immemorial. Instead, three sided bayonets were designed to be an economical compromise between flexing strength and the amount of wrought iron needed to make the bayonet

So I guess I'm not willing to buy the bayonet thing either.

Fifthfiend 03-28-2009 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BitVyper (Post 908149)
The problem is that sticking something sharp on the end of a stick almost always works better than the triple bladed, retractable, folding spear that makes a whistling sound and has a chain attached to the end.

On a related note Cuchulainn or however you spell his name from Irish mythology had something kind of like this. Which wasn't so much a problem for me as the part where it could only be thrown with his feet. I mean, WTF? That doesn't even sound cool.

bluestarultor 03-28-2009 11:42 PM

What really bugs me is when there's no language barrier between humans and aliens. I mean, I get it, it's the future and we're lucky enough to not be slaves of these guys, but I don't think we're quite so great as a race that everyone in the universe speaks English with a Midwestern accent. I mean, I can handle, say, a giant hornet-man who just happens to have learned English. Depending on his job, this may be entirely appropriate. But by no means should he be a native speaker when he has three tongues and mandibles. I mean, that warrants SOME sort of accent.


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