Yeah, but you try discreetly reaching across 100+ pounds of armor and bombs to hit that detonator. The fact is that Briggs was a dead man if he moved for it. And also IHMN...the two arms thing? If I recall you said you're character was a bad-ass because he could charge into a room with "twin tommy guns and a flamethrower firing". Looks like your guy has an extra arm. oops. And your wave theory holds no water, especially the accidental discharge. Debris is random, and I doubt that it could precisely land on me and MC killing us both. I already adressed that point when I said how you could be killed by a random piece of debris hitting the train you were on.

I swear, it's like a chance to argue with IHMN just creates this bottomless vortex that just sucks me in!


1) He's trained to hold it. And believe it or not, if you pull the trigger quickly, it is possible to just use one bullet. Also, it would be shoulder braced, he would be in a good shooting position. As much as recoil is a factor, it is fully possible to deaden its effects. Oooh, and just to point something out (As you obviously have NEVER had to deal with guns much) just because a gun is really powerful doesn't mean that aiming is hard. Simply, you aim, and brace, and when you fire you CAN have it hit the target. The only thing that makes it really hard to use is the weight, and the drive back (Like recoil, except when braced). It tends to hurt after a while.

2) I concede that one.

3) Unless he was clutching the detonator in both hands initially....then the moment he reached for it Batgirl would've splattered his brains all over the ceiling.

Well, actually, he already had his hand at the trigger, then you shot him. Unless his entire arm went completely limp, he could have just nudged a finger or his arm to hit the trigger.


And my guy doesn't even have a tommy gun. He has two shotguns and a flame thrower. One arm for the flame thrower, another for the shotgun (Only if it's the 8 gauge, no way he can hold the USAS steady with one arm).

And yes, debris is random. Chances of it hitting you are as good as the chacnes of it missing you. And it doesn't need to land on and kill you instantly, just pin you down so you can't move and will die eventually.

Edit - Oh, and SS, you said your guy was backing up, so he wouldn't be bracing as much (Though still bracing).

Wow...you're really grasping at straws here, IHMN

Originally you were going to have tommy guns. Read the posts from the ill-fated swords vs. guns debate in this thread to see your slip up.

And Briggs did not have the detonator. He reached for it, but he got shot before he could use it. And again...Batgirl would have splattered his brains across the car's interior if he tried with either of his arms.

(SS, you're right again...it is like a vortex)

I was never going to have tommy guns. I don't even remember mentioning tommy guns, but if I did it would have just been to say that a guy with two tommy guns clearing out a room is cooler then some pansy little guy with a sword. That doesn't mean I was going to use a tommy gun (Because flame throwers and shotguns are cooler).

So, your guy reacted instantly when his arm started moving? He would have gotten atleast half way before Wolf fired, then just move the arm and when he gets shot by Batgirl, his arm is still moving, so it could hit the denonator. Or, his dead body falls over onto the detonator.

Touche, I did say that indeed. I concede that point as well.

Flame throwers typically take two arms. And they aren't exactly the best things for quick kills.

Also...um...tendons and nerve channels and stuff. Given what I'm assuming the Omni-Falcons can do, they would've blown the artery clean open, so he would have no blood in his hand. So, the entire arm would either be completely limp, or moving it would put him in mind numbing pain.

And I know you made a third point. I'll edit my reply in soon.

EDIT- Human reaction times...if its something unexpected, they typically take half a second to acknowledge, then half a second to react. If its expected, it gets cut down to anywhere from between a quarter of a second to half a second to react.

And in your argument of coolness, we would probably have faster reaction times.

Bullets tore up the forearm and shoulder. Arm is useless. Also, he couldn't have fallen on the detonator. If anything, his fat ass would have gotten wedged in the aisle between seats.

Like I said...grasping at straws

And insulting one weapon out of my array of others is not even a good insult. Especially since I used the katana only once, and to great effect. So I am unfazed by you futile attempts to re-irk that issue.

Wolf -

Two shots don't have that great of a chance of completely destroying the muscles and tendons in the arm (Even if they are those fancy bullets). It would be painful to do so, but he could keep moving his arm (He is going to blow himself up, I don't think pain is that much of a deal to him).

I'm not trying to re-irk the issue. I didn't even bring it up, you did.

SS -

Future flamethrower. And my guy is a big guy.

Everything else, that's just clearing up other stuff that was said, so yeah...

I never said I fired two shots. I said "opened fire", and the "bullets hit". I higly doubt that my chatacter wouldn't have emptied the entire clip into a madman with a bomb. So there. And you did re-bring up the issue when you said guns in RPs were a problem.

Hm, wonder where I got the two shots from.

Of course, you all were blown up anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

And how is this,
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bringing up your guy's katana and it being useless against guns?