Red Vs Blue Good Again!
 

So, after what I considered to be a disappointing ending to the first series and a disappointing season following it, RVB is starting to gain my favor again.

I think the main reason is the reversal of roles this season, particularly between Simmons and Griff, and Caboose actually being useful. It manages to do this without changing the characters themselves, which is nice. I also like that this season has focused primarily on those role reversals, and far less on Burnie 'I-AM-THE-MAIN-CHARACTER' Burns being an AI the military drove insane so they could use its split personalities for the Freelancer Project. Cuz, I mean, I just could not take that twist even remotely seriously, and I don't mean that in a good way.

But yeah, I'm enjoying it! Anyone else?

... I thought it was always good.

I think Burnie is an excellent character writer, but that his plot writing needs a lot of work. Plus his seeming insistence on Church always being the 'main character' bothers me, as Church is less than my favorite.

I thought it ended a while ago. I enjoyed it until that "ending".

Then they started making more serious side-stories and I got bored of them. It was good when it was funny. Is it funny again?

It is funny again, but will probably go serious as we get closer towards the season finale. BUT! For the time being it is funny.

I actually enjoyed the last season the most because it was actually a single coherent storyline from beginning to end, both well-thought out and paced with the humor effortlessly tied in. This was a huge comfort from the rambling incoherent messes of previous seasons, where the storyline was made up as it progressed.

I find it amusing that you can't buy that particular plot twist, yet have no problem accepting the massive retcon of them not actually being in the future from season five onwards.

Besides, it has always been more about the Blues as a whole being protagonists than just Church. He was cut out of most of season three except for his time traveling episodes, cut out of the main "quest" storyline of season four, and Tucker was clearly the primary protagonist of season five.

You mean how they were in the future because Sarge said they were in the future, and everyone just rolled with it? I mean yeah, Vic said, like, one line that confirmed it but the whole future thing was never really relevant to the plot.

The thing about the earlier seasons, was that the plot was an excuse to be funny*. Then, Burnie thought he was good at writing plot, wrote a stupid plot twist, and tried to make a serious and dramatic season.


*Disclaimer: I do feel it kinda feel apart at the end of the fifth season, but that's largely because they tried to start making it serious and dramatic with no real preparation.

And how Shelia said they were in the future. And how she had degraded over hundreds of years of decay, as commented by Tex. And how Vic said they were in the future without even knowing that they thought they were in the future. And how the bases in Blood Gulch had been altered over the years they were gone. And how the same blast that sent them to the "future" also sent Church to the past. And the graphical upgrade between Halo and Halo 2 that was used to show they were in the "future", and a graphical downgrade showed Church was in the past, which Tucker himself comments on.

But yeah, the explanation of Church being an AI as opposed to being a ghost was so much more abrupt and hard to accept. :rolleyes:

Yes, yes it was. It didn't make a big deal of the retcon, and the stuff they were retconning was part of that whole comedy over continuity thing. They spent an entire season devoted to Church being an AI, a twist I felt was uninteresting, stupid, and poorly executed.

I'll admit I was wrong and the time travel thing was a bigger retcon than I thought. Retconning it didn't really hurt the new season though, and making Church an insane, fragmented AI did.

I disagree. Clearly we have reached an impasse.