First The RoD And Now This? Dammit Microsoft.
 

So my roomie has a 360, and keeps it pretty pristine. However, it's red-ringed him once or twice. Now, this isn't a problem - it was fixed up good and proper. The problem is that it's started to scratch his discs.

He's a little peeved, as it was Fallout 3 that was damaged, the game he bought XBox live for, so he could get the expansions. ...So, anyone got any idea how to repair a damaged disc? (Tried toothpaste and a disc resurfacer.)

... he does know you can download content with just the free Silver Live account, right?

Take it to an actual shop with an actual disc resurfacer. I work at such a shop. Walmart resurfacers and the like will often do more harm than good, and you can toothpaste until you die of fluoride inhalation, it won't remove the 360 Rings.

Yes, the 360 Rings, it requires its own classification because I've resurfaced probably thousands of DVDs at work and they have their own characteristics about them. They are deep as fuck, maybe 25% of the time they've penetrated into the data, and your game is now a frisbee. The other 75% are repairable, again, if you go to a store that actually has a professional disc resurfacer and a good operator. Something like that should run you $5 or so, which is better than having to rebuy, in this case, Fallout 3.

Next, use the install to hard drive feature if you can. Works your 360 drive less, or not at all. Thus, no scratched discs. And the game tends to run a little better anyway when it's off the hard drive. This has the added benefit of losing the common "chainsaw" spinning of the 360 drives too. Enh, it's what you get when your DVD drives cost, like $10 maybe?

Nah, we went to a video store in town here, and they pretty much turned it into a frisbee.

Probably not. So... yeah.

*sigh* Guess I better warn my friends and tell them to check their discs. And it looks like I'm not going to be buy a 360 for awhile. PS3 here I come.

Would this be the thing where it scratches the disc if you even slightly bump the 360 while its spinning?

If so, yeah, that's the most annoying fucking thing. Really takes points away from the 360.


And as far as getting the game fixed; If you just bought the game, oftentimes you can just take it back and SAY it didn't work when you bought it. Helps if it was used.

That works at Gamestop anyway. They'll replace it with one of the same, no charge.

The only reason it should scratch your discs is if you move it with the disc in it. I mean really move it like pick it up and carry it to another room. My 360 is in well trafficked part of the room and gets knocked all the time and the only time I've had a problem is when I forget to take a game out before I go to a friends house. If it got scratched from just normal use call Microsoft and throw a huge fit.

Also have you had it a long time. I had a problem with Fallout 3 where my first two copies were scratched so bad when I bought them I couldn't play them.

From my experiences, I was told that yes, if the 360 is bumped, it will scratch, and the only becomes an issue if you stand it up, like a tower.
I always keep mine horizontal, so I haven't had a problem yet. However, I also bought the "Elite" black version, which is "better" somehow, yet the manufacturing, like the X-clamps, is the same BUT ANYWAY.

I really wish that Microsoft would've put forth the extra money and effort into making their system stable. From what I heard, it's greater than a 50/50 chance that your 360 will crap out within the first year of use. It's just annoying and bad business when people need to buy 2-3 copies of the same game, or "re-buys" of a console.

Well, what happened was we were drinking with friends, and his girl friend knocked over the 360 with her foot accidentally while he was playing it. It became very much scratched, so he took it to a video store in town and payed So now I think the only option is to complain to Microsoft, which may or may not get anything accomplished.

I wasn't really going to post in this thread, first because i don't own nor ever owned a Xbox. and secondly because i make it no secret that i have a noticeable dislike for the thing.

But i comment that is somewhat weird that this, in fact, is not bad business for microsoft. I mean, i won't even touch on "fanboyism" with this, but the thing just keeps on selling. And it's not just the 1 year head start that it has that makes up for that margin.

So or people really don't care that much about those recurrent problems (overheat, RRoD, Scratched disks) or they aren't as frequent as we might think they are... well, don't ask me. I think the 360 is a fantastic piece of crap, hardware-wise, but it stills sell pretty well regardless of the problems it has.

My Old PSX would act up a lot on it's later years. To the point were some games would only play if i left the console in a vertical position. Other, would only work on a Horizontal position... yet, i never had a single scratch from it. My Wii also has some minor hiccups from time to time (well, i DO work the poor thing to the bone...) but again, not a single scratch. ever. My DVD Burner is used and old. Just for the trivia i could mention that unless there is a disc in there all the time, i can only open the damn thing by hitting it with a pen when i press the eject button... and i burn dvd's every week. Yet, not a single scratch at all.

So, it's not absurd at all to complain that Microsoft could really do much better on that...

Regardless, i took a jump at Instructables.com and i found this

http://www.instructables.com/id/Keep...atching_discs/