Sorry mate, but that's a form of mind control too.

Warning for those who still want to watch the movie... here comes the spoilers.

During the entire movie we are presented with this crazy Nano technology that makes soldiers into perfect mindless machines. So much that they want to use it even on Duke.

Also, mind you, that when the Professor neutralizes the Baroness, Destro shows up surprised with just that. They even argue on how no one ever broke feel of the CONTROL. As we get to realize right about the end of the movie, The soon-to-be Cobra Commander is the master puppeteer behind everything.

He takes advantage to the fact that Duke never returned to his sister and everyone though he was dead, and he simply kidnapped her (it's shown in the movie) and Altered her Memories, Personality and Emotional state.

He Shaped her to serve his cause. He controlled her. Because he defined how she should act and she acted as defined. That's control.

It even puts a grey area on her relationship with Destro. Was Cobra Commander just using his Sister to keep Destro under control and under watch, or her new personality just generated that attraction?

Either way, Rex clearly uses his sister to acquire funding and access from the background. The movie doesn't show just how much control he HAS over her, but considering that he has a lot over everyone else... its not surprising.

Sorry, I forgot that you have to actually pick up and taste every piece of shit that you see before deciding that it is indeed shit.

Well gee, I can't recall where I so much as implied that he did.

No, see, that's not true. When you physically alter someone's brain to make them do what you want, putting responsibility for their actions on them is like blaming a lobotomy victim for being stupid.

A character has to be very minor to be considered a nit.

You're cute when you try to be insulting. ;)

Especially since for that analogy to work, I would first have to see the shit to know it was shit, wouldn't I? Oh, but I forgot, you apparently have other people go outside and tell you exactly what is shit so you don't have to see the shit for yourself.

...No wait, that doesn't make much sense, since I saw what you assume to be shit and told you it wasn't shit, only to have you completely disregard my opinion and assume that it was still shit. In fact, Bells and The Escapist's Bob, two individuals who have also seen firsthand that which you call shit, both say that it isn't, yet you ignored their opinions as well..

So apparently you just have some sort of superhuman ability where you can sense the spiritual vibrations of shit.

The snide condescension is so thick I need a matchete.

It doesn't really matter, since the people who didn't pay 11 bucks to see a piece of shit are still ahead by 11 dollars.

THEY'RE ONTO US

Wow. I'm responding to this against my better judgement, but hell, why not.

My superhuman ability is called "watching the previews, reading reviews, hearing what people have to say, and judging whether I want to spend money seeing the movie based on how much I trust these sources." It's just something I do occasionally. I happen to know my own taste in movies fairly well, and from being around this forum for awhile, I have a little bit of insight into the tastes of other posters, and how close they are to my own. I also know that I've agreed with most of the reviews I've found on MGK's site before. So yeah, I can actually make a judgement without watching the movie. I can't write a full-blown critique of it, but I can certainly decide whether or not I'm interested.

Oh, and I might as well point out that I haven't actually called the movie shit yet. The analogy I made was in regards to The Baroness, who I was talking about before you shifted the discussion toward when I am and am not cute. I responded to a specific detail about the movie. You've already said yourself that this detail is true, so whether or not I've seen the movie really has nothing to do with any of this.

Just to get it out of the way though: I think GI Joe: The Rise of Cobra is probably -almost definitely- a crappy movie.

Also: I am cute all the time, but that sarcasm in my analogy wasn't intended specifically as a personal insult. It was a dig at that plot element.

I saw this movie. It was incredibly, mind numbingly stupid in almost every conceivable way.

I had an okay time.

Was it pretty terrible? Yes. Was it so bad it's good? No. But, in the end, I just kind of rolled with it and laughed at how retarded it was without even realizing it.

Was anyone else under the impression during the underwater dog-fighting that they were watching Star Wars: Under the Sea?

Honestly if it wasn't for my childhood nostalgia I would have not looked twice at this but since I went in with such low expectations I was half blown away by how much I enjoyed it!

the only thing that could have got me to go see this movie would have been a trailer where somebody runs into a burning room and yells "pork chop sandwiches!"

Right so I was going to post this back a while ago when I saw the movie, but I fogot to and now there's a bunch of people in here picking the movie to pieces and hating it so I'll just say this and head out:

I'll not lie, it spoke to the 7 year old inside me like no movie has ever done before. I literally got everything I went there to see and more.

Like:
-The phrase "Now we know....and knowing is half the battle!"
-So many vehicles that there will be new Joe toys for years.
-Explosions.....oh so many explosions.
-Ninja fights!
---Bonus: Snake Eyes kept his mouth shut all movie long!
-Laser guided, computer programmed, exploding crossbow bolts.
---No really, all of that.
-Kung Fu grip!
-A real honest to God cobra!

And more, so much more. The adult side of me is totally convinced this was a terrible movie, but the kid in me doesn't care one bit. This movie was awesome and anyone who says otherwise has forgotten what it's like to be a kid. For shame on you! Shaaaame!

I lost the ability to appreciate campy childhood television catchphrase inclusion in feature films after the "Holy rusted metal, Batman" incident.

But that was the best part of the movie.

The Wandering God

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...jesus-wept.jpg

and now, perhaps, you can see where my displeasure lies?

I took a drink every time this movie displeased me.

I left the theatre wondering how I was still alive.

I'm not 100% sure I was.

Stubborn people. Angry people. Fanatic people. Open-minded people. Appreciative people.

I really don't see where this mud-slinging form of debate in regards to this movie will get any of us. The simple fact is that you'll always think one thing about this movie and nothing anyone else says will convince you otherwise.

...

But keeping in the spirit of this thread, if you lost all sense of childlike wonder, then yeah, you'll probably hate this movie. But if that's the case, then you're already an imagination-less crotchety old man on the inside, so you already hate everything that speaks to your inner child.

Aw gee, guys; Subby's mad at us.

FALSE!

I still like boobs.