The wii Can onyl handel casual game,s just look at The conudit or Mad oWrld, which would have been beatter if they weryent' on the Wii and forcedto sue the waggle.

again im durnk

Our point is that that's all well and good but we don't have to like it, and when Sony and Microsoft look to be trying the same thing and we feel that that will create a market less geared towards us, we have every right to be upset and not want that thing.

For the sake of this argument, casual games are stuff like, "My Little Pony and Sonic the Hedgehog Go To Candy Mountain" or "Help Grandma Find Her Teeth Mini-Game Collection 9000".

yea but, nothing you can do about it. Even if every hardcore gamer quit it would still be more profitable to aim at the casual crowd

I can be a whiny bitch and annoy people. Sithdarth told me so.

You really missed the entire point didn't you.

This right here is the problem. There were legitimate reasons for the delay and they still get blasted for it. Imagine the outcry if the forced you to buy a second motion sensitive controller in addition to a normal controller instead of putting them both into one much more convenient package.

Fine you are entitled to that opinion but you are not the entirety of the market and they are exactly as entitled to their opinion as well. Both sides are also entitled to enjoy what they enjoy in peace without being slandered by the other side.

The point is that on occasion things generally have gone way past complaining about the direction things have headed and into being out right insulting about whoever doesn't agree. Further bitching has in no way every theoretically helped prevent something from happening. Except for perhaps the thing the bitching was against. See when you annoy people that don't completely agree with you they are less inclined to agree with you. Its kind of this thing humans do. You can be vocal but there are two caveats to that. The first is expect and accept the possibility of negative reactions. The second is stay as far way from negative connotations and subjective arguments and opinions as possible. If you could actually give an objective argument beyond motion control sucks and I hate waggling your position would both be stronger and less annoying possibly to the point of not being annoying at all.

1) Not all insults are overt.

2) Sometimes people take offense to things you don't think are offensive.

3) Using words or phrasings that have or suggest negative connotations can be construed as insulting.

4) Segregating yourself from another group of people that share some of the same interest as you because of a few differences generally carries a negative connotation.

5) Being negative about or dismissive towards something other people like simply because you don't agree is often seen as insulting.

In this particular case my use of the word insulting did not indicate overt verbal assault. Instead it indicated an overall tone or attitude that would indicate veiled hostility or disdain of a person or group of people. Discussions can be had without this rather ominous cloud hanging over them and in general end up the better for it. At this point though even mentioning video game preferences is getting to the point of better known topics that should never be discussed on the internet.

Dude i feel like i should buy you a Gatorade right now.

Still, strangely enough you kinda have a point there... i mean, it's not for nothing that the guys behind Arc Rise Fantasia and No More Heroes and leaving the Wii and looking only at the PS3 and Xbox for future games...

In the end we all loose, because, to be honest, none of us are part of that larger group of people who think Tits are game features, and that Kingdom Hearts should be Darker and Edgy.

... Just saying, in the end, we're all on the same ship. The true entirety of the market is just pretty fucking stupid...

Dudw whomissed the point, Nocnon for not getting that the Wii controls 'arent' all that bad' or you for not noticing that there are better alternatives that are readily available last console generation.

What part of 'we can have our oppion' do you not get man?

You're more thon welcome tod defend this point but tosing about 'well they do what works" as though we totally ditn't know and I didn't spend ad runken post establishing we know thtat is just condescending.

"We couldn't afford it so we're making you pay for it" is legitimate somehwo?

Hell with this, I'm out, ouu guys havefun.

I bet this wouldn't happen if the Wiimote was an optional peripheral that enhanced the experience but wasn't necessary to it like I suggested several posts earlier. But nah, that'd be crazy talk.

I haven't seen any slandering except of the sort where people defending casual gamers and the casual market from mud-slinging that ISN'T HAPPENING IN THIS CONVERSATION have treated core gamers as hateful, angry jerks.

You mean like saying that dodging was smoother and more responsive in God Hand than in MadWorld because it used a thumbstick and not a nunchuck? You're right. I should get on that-OH WAIT.

My favorite part about this is how I've made a post about how the casual market isn't a bad thing and it's its own separate market and how my problem was with the Wii itself than with the market, and this utterly ignores that. That's okay though because I suggested that companies' attempts to appeal to that market over another market were a bad thing. GODDAMN I HATE THEM MOTHERFUCKING CASUAL GAMERS.

Source?

casual crowd disagrees, and like it or not they are currently a much larger portion of the consumer base