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RIAA makes another attack on people's rights
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/11797
This sounds really, really bad. Remember when I said the U.S was under seige by companies wanting to keep us under their jackboots? Media consolidation, TCPA, and the RIAA... Anyway. I am going to fire off a letter to my congressman on this one for sure. It was already going too far years ago. For posterity: Quote:
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i am a uk citizen and well i am a bit out of touch with all the laws and bills of the USA but i take it that this HR 4077 allows companies and the fbi to track everyone subscribed to any isp's internet trafficing and movments and impose restrictions on downloading? i am forced to scream WHAT THE HELL AND WHAT IN GODS NAME !?!?!? how the *@#! are they supposed to monitor this whithout compromising some basic rights as you have stated? well were i in america i would support you fully oh and good letter! i dont know how it works in america but i assume you will be sending lots of these for them to ever get processed. Oh also is it just for your state or the entire country?
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This'd be a federal law; that is, it'll affect the every American citizen.
You're a Brit, though? You should keep a close eye on things going on in Europe... Similar battles are taking place. Hell, we might as well be in World War III - the people of the world versus companies and corporate control. By the way, that letter wasn't written by me, that's the form letter Codewarrior of Boycott RIAA (or was it originally by Public Knowledge...? Not sure). |
I'm Pro-Privacy and am ready to support you but first would someone post a link to the full copy of HR 4077. As soon as I give it te once over I'll start firing off letters
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Trev, you post in the articles at Dmusic.com? I haven't seen you there unless you post by another name.
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Nah, but I ought to. I see your name in the Boycott RIAA comments from time to time.
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I'm just curious, I have my own opinions but for the sake of discussion I will play devil's advocate. Do not confuse this with my actual beliefs, I think that the RIAA is an obsolete system, I think Mp3s are the future, and that they absolutely have to be free, since you will not be able to get people to start paying for something they previously had gotten for free.
why do you guys think that this is not stealing? What makes downloading a copywritten song any better or worse than stealing a cd? If a percentage of money that the CD makes goes back to the muscicians, then wouldn't downloading a CD rather than buying it deny the muscician money that they rightfully earned? If everyone has a right to what happens with their own property, and intellectual property is in fact property, why do we have the right to take it? Is it any more or less ethical to sneak onto a farmer's orchard and steal oranges or apples? |
Ok, I'll bite: the argument for not stealing is because normally, when you steal, the victim loses possession of something. The biggest argument for music downloading is: "I would hot have paid for the full CD because I didn't think I'd like the music," and for me, this has been true. Example: Linkin Park. I downloaded a Final Fantasy music video that used "Pushing Me Away", and I liked the song. So I downloaded two more music videos. I liked those ones too, So I bought the CDs, and I've stuck with it ever since.
My point is that: until I had heard the music from an "illegally" obtained source, I never would have bought the CD. So that's why many people think the RIAA is out of place, because many times the "profit" they say they've lost, is really "profit" they never had. |
so if I sneak onto that farmer's Orchard and steal apples and give them to people to try, and they eat them, thus developing a taste for apples, does that justify the fact that you committed theft?
How about John Eatherly, the pilot of the Enola Gay (the B-24 that dropped the hiroshima bomb) who after the war would rob convenience stores and give the money to Japanese war widows. Is that ethical? Do the ends justify the means? |
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