But see, if enough people survive, and they outlast the zombies, then you have the fun that is repopulating the Earth. Building a non-terrible society and all that rot. And you know that the human race that manages to survive will PROBABLY be a lot better than the one that we have now, thanks to the unnatural selection that is zombies. The smartest and the most fit will be who's left.

If you survive it will be because of people like me.

You can't outlast zombies. They're zombies. They don't get tired. They don't die of old age. They don't starve. They just horde around your hiding places and wait.

The only reason you'd 'outlast' the zombies is people like me killing them all off.

Also, if by 'better' you mean all the sociopaths. It'll be the folks with a 'smartest and most fit are the only ones allowed to live' mentality and the remaining survivors from the 'killing zombies is fucking awesome' crowd.

Not particularly a group of people I want to hang out with, to be honest.

But didn't you just say you were one of them?

If I learned anything from playing Left 4 Dead it's this, Zombies suck, but your parents suck even more so at times.

I can picture it now

Krylo and his team making their way through a building to kill more zombies. The zombie's all of the sudden start crawling into the building and attacking. They start running through the hallways and shutting doors on the Zombies to slow em down. One Team Mate thinks he'll be funny and shutting a few of the doors on the last guy running behind them. Zombies catch up to last guy while he is opening the door.

Running around killing zombies cause it's fun and awesome wont work either Krylo being a sociopath is a clear sign you'll be turned into one. Then you'll have the issue of people cracking or caving or going down right crazy. Sociopaths in a group = humanity doomed to be fucked.

First of all--says the guy who advocates leaving the children and the wounded to be eaten by zombies.

Secondly--I never said it was supposed to allow me to survive. Simply that giving up on one's own survival is both better in that the world is going to fucking suck, and in that if I can kill even two zombies before they kill me, that means the zombie horde is down by one. If I can kill twenty, that means the zombie horde is down by 19. If I kill 20 and then blow myself up when they finally catch me in a swarm, the zombie horde is probably down by like 40. Now imagine if every person did that. There would be no zombie horde rather quickly.

You guys hiding and leaving people behind as they get weak? You are ONLY increasing the size of the horde, and once the horde is done with people like me, it will be going after people like you. You aren't going to outlast them. They're zombies.

You will either eventually be eaten anyway having accomplished nothing toward the survival of humanity, or you will starve to death having accomplished nothing toward the survival of humanity... or you'll decide to kill yourself. At least I can go knowing I thinned the horde a bit to make things easier for everyone else. If you DO survive, it will be because there were enough people like me to wipe out the zombie horde. Not because there were a bunch of people like you.

Edit: And I fully plan to die so I don't have to hang out with more of me.

Touché.

Hey, Im chopping of anyones head we have to leave behind! Second, My goal is merely to have the bragging rights of being the last human survivor on earth!

But we were trying to give him some suggestions on the possibility of maybe surviving....bt we all know if a zombie apocalypse happened we'd all be fucked no matter what.

Which is why I'm in the 'fuck survival' boat.

Especially in a D20 game. I mean, really, what's the more exciting game, huddling in the military base trying to get food without being eaten, or spending a few sessions brutally murdering zombies with all the hardware you can steal?

It'd be way more exciting to invade a zombiefied city and see how far you could cleanse it before dying.

That depends on what kinds of zombies we're talking about. I'm pretty sure at least in the Zombie Survival guide it estimates you would have to live in isolation/survive for at least five years, because if the body isn't repairing itself like ours does, that's about how long before their bodies just give out and they can't do anything anymore. But on the other hand, if people are being constantly turned into zombies I'm guessing it would be a lot more than five years. Still, if you're really good, you should be able to outlast the zombie apocalypse, since you can reproduce and they can't.

Given, that means pretty much starting over and living in the most inhospitable place forever kind of thing, not just hiding out in your closet.