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Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope 09-21-2009 04:01 PM

Two words: Western Alienation.

I am dead serious here. Provinces like Alberta, Saskatchewan, and BC continually get the shaft by the east. Our votes do not count in the grand scheme of things because by the time all the votes are tallied from the East, the winners of the election have been decided.

There is no cultural unity. The east and west despise one another while the government caters to the East, leaving the west begging for scraps.

krogothwolf 09-21-2009 04:08 PM

It's really because of a representation by population system. The Economic power of Canada has slowly started to shift to the West, while the population remainds in the East, as the pop grows in western canada, the political power will shift and stabilize eventually. Atlantic alienation is also in existance too. and add Manitoba to the mix. Most Federal money sent to the provinces goes to Ontario and Quebex due to them being the higher populations and therefore the higher number of MP's. It's not that they are truly striving for Alienation of other provinces, its just that they feel that the greater portion of the population deserves the most aid so in the end 2 provinces get 60% of the cash and the remaining 8 and the 3 territories get the scraps.

Osterbaum 09-21-2009 04:47 PM

Most of you propably know that I live in Finland. So what's wrong with this country?

Our democracy is a fake one, some could call it an "eastern democracy". Personally I haven't made up my mind on that. Anyway, people have very few actual ways of affecting decision making. Referendums are held maybe once every 10 years when the goverment feels like it, there are no "citizens initiatives" or whatever those are called in english.

Good luck getting who you voted for a seat in the parliament, local council, EU-parliament or the presidency. Unless of course you voted for the "bigger guys" from one of the three "bigger parties". Supposedly representing the right, the centre and the left, in truth the Social Democrats are just as right as The National Coalition, not to mention the Centre Party. Each want to be in the goverment every term but only two usually are. This means that of these three, one is always in the opposition. But that one party has a pretty good chance of being in the goverment next term, so they don't want to piss off the other one of the three major parties they think will be in the goverment with them. Same goes for a lot the smaller parties. This leads to consensus; politics change very little depending on who is supposedly in power.

The ones in power, the actual people, are the same as 10-30 years ago. Not to mention that it's practically considered "immoral" or whatever to talk about the connections of these people to the eastern block during the 70's and 80's. Not to mention the fact that a lot of them were part of one of the most undemocratic decisions ever made in this country.
There's no need to censor the media: they do it themselves. Especially the major papers, who criticize the goverment just enough to seem like they're unbiased but also without really doing anything.
The "Basic Finns" -party has been winning victory after victory. In other words, their popularity is on the rise. They claim to be "immigration critiques" but really most of them are just racists.
Skinheads. Who doesn't know what a skinhead is?

Apparently you aren't supposed to talk about anything while it's still in the planning phase. Well when the hell are you supposed to talk about it then? When it's so far you can't really do anything to change it!?
The trend of privatization. Really, the goverment is following this trend like people who care way too much about fashion buy new shoes everytime their old ones drop out of fashion.

Conscription. Plus everything is expensive.

I'm sure I could come up with a lot more, but I'll save some for later.

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope 09-21-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by krogothwolf (Post 971285)
It's really because of a representation by population system. The Economic power of Canada has slowly started to shift to the West, while the population remainds in the East, as the pop grows in western canada, the political power will shift and stabilize eventually. Atlantic alienation is also in existance too. and add Manitoba to the mix. Most Federal money sent to the provinces goes to Ontario and Quebex due to them being the higher populations and therefore the higher number of MP's. It's not that they are truly striving for Alienation of other provinces, its just that they feel that the greater portion of the population deserves the most aid so in the end 2 provinces get 60% of the cash and the remaining 8 and the 3 territories get the scraps.

You cannot tell me, as a fellow Albertan that you feel alienated. Yes I know the majority of the country is based in the east, but that doesn't stop it that if you are west of Ontario:

a) Our vote does not count.
b) We are painted as backward redneck inbred hicks.

I would rather see a voting system in Canada similar to that of the US. I understand that the Electoral college is confusing, but it is still better then what we have right now.

No wonder I do a write in vote every election.

Dracorion 09-21-2009 05:30 PM

The heat. The goddamn heat.

I swear to God, if I have to suffer through another day of 50°C temperatures, they're going to find me dead from sucking a rather large kitchen knife.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk 09-21-2009 05:33 PM

I would rant about stuff, but SMB already pretty much covered at least the tip of the iceberg. Well, except for the bit about the machineguns (I barely ever see police doing anything other than fining innocent people for going 4 miles over the speed limit because they happen to be bit late for work, they don't usually carry machineguns for that), and the bit about basketball. Nobody plays basketball here, they have far shittier sports to waste their time on.

If I was to go into a full on rant about how shit things are here, I'd have to make a double post and it would take a very long time to list all of the shitty things I would want to mention and I wouldn't even know where to start.

Yeah, it's really that bad.

krogothwolf 09-21-2009 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac (Post 971304)
You cannot tell me, as a fellow Albertan that you feel alienated. Yes I know the majority of the country is based in the east, but that doesn't stop it that if you are west of Ontario:

a) Our vote does not count.
b) We are painted as backward redneck inbred hicks.

I would rather see a voting system in Canada similar to that of the US. I understand that the Electoral college is confusing, but it is still better then what we have right now.

No wonder I do a write in vote every election.

It's the first past the post system that screws over everyone and gives the Bloc with mores seats then the NDP even though they get less of the popular vote. I'm not sure what system we could use to fix the mess. Then there is the problem of the Senate which is filled with people who really don't do anything and get paid shitload to do nothing.

But I don't generally feel western alienation, its more of Ontario and Quebec and then fuck everything else. Yet the Quebec hicks feel they aren't treated fairly by the rest of canada. Seriously? You aren't treated fairly? You get more money then everyone else, even The Center of the Universe. The parties constantly try to buy your votes and you feel you aren't treated fairly?

My favourite joke about Quebec is this

Twoo guys, one from Ontaro and one from Quebec were walking along a beach and found a lamp. The picked up the lamp and rubbed it and out came a genie. The genie thanks them for releasing him and says he will give them each one wish. The Quebec guy thinks for a minute and goes "I would Like to have a 50 foot wall surrounding Quebec to prevent anyone from getting in". The Genie nods his head and goes "It is done". The Ontario guy goes "I would like Quebec filled with water"

And then we have Ontario which is a joke on itself. We get snow all the time and never freak out. Toronto gets some snow and what do they do? Mobilize the army to plow the snow.

PyrosNine 09-21-2009 08:29 PM

Why do all the consumer products I want come from overseas? And why is Metal Wolf Chaos not reality?

Wigmund 09-21-2009 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac (Post 971304)
b) We are painted as backward redneck inbred hicks.

Gotcha beat there, try being an Arkansan...Arkansawyer...whatever people from Arkansas are being called until the state legislature votes on it again.

Archbio 09-21-2009 09:35 PM

Quote:

Twoo guys, one from Ontaro and one from Quebec were walking along a beach and found a lamp. The picked up the lamp and rubbed it and out came a genie. The genie thanks them for releasing him and says he will give them each one wish. The Quebec guy thinks for a minute and goes "I would Like to have a 50 foot wall surrounding Quebec to prevent anyone from getting in". The Genie nods his head and goes "It is done". The Ontario guy goes "I would like Quebec filled with water"
Lulz, genocide.


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