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bluestarultor 12-02-2009 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Funka Genocide (Post 992202)
man Bluesy, man oh man oh man.

this is my exasperated internet face.

:|

Ah, well. Like I said, I was surprised. :p


Edit: Actually, it just occurred to me that a vote is still a vote. Not that it counts for much, but even if I were to get elected just so people could watch the world explode, it doesn't mean I'd actually do a bad job.

Like I said, though, with my communications issues, I'm expecting to be modded about as much as I'm expecting the sky to fall.

Mesden 12-02-2009 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DFM (Post 992209)
^^^

YO MES I dunno I see a lot of drama happing if you're a mod it's like a gut feeling.


Instead of giving you a kitty and punching you in the face, I shall instead give you a kitty and punch you in the gut.

Eltargrim 12-02-2009 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by krogothwolf (Post 992203)
If DFM is a vote for america, whos the vote for canada?

Me.

Also, to do my own serious thing, I used to be very active at a forum where similar mod-dramas happened. However, what happened there was half the community split, half the community stayed, and they both shrivelled and died.

Then I started coming here. And things not only were better day-to-day, holy fuck has this whole thing ended better than I was hoping/expecting/dreading. When the announcement was first made, all I could see was losing another...fuck it, home is the best word here. And then you all proved me wrong by sticking to your word and now we have this whole thing going on.

So what I'm trying to get at here is that I'm proud to be attached to this community, and I'm looking forward to many enjoyable years here.

In short, thank you NPF.

(YES I REALIZE THAT'S WHAT BATGIRL ENDED WITH THAT WAS THE POINT IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT TO END WITH OH GOD UNNECESSARY CAPS)

DFM 12-02-2009 11:52 PM

If it's any consolation Mes man I like your avatar a bunch

Lookit her laugh

batgirl 12-02-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerensky287 (Post 992213)
Hmm. I think I may take back my vote. You need someone a little more heartless to be a functional moderator.

Heartless I can do easily, don't forget I have a vast knowledge of the human body, I can make anyone heartless in many different ways. (oh the puns)

EDIT: Also I vote for Bob, because a vote for Bob is a vote for Bob.

Kerensky287 12-02-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eltargrim (Post 992216)
awww heartwarming

Now, see, THAT'S why a vote for Canada is a bad idea.

EDIT FOR ABOVE: If you're that determined to get the position that you'd tear your own heart out of your chest then I may just re-vote you.

Mesden 12-02-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DFM (Post 992218)
If it's any consolation Mes man I like your avatar a bunch

Lookit her laugh

It's you.

She's laughing at you!!!!!!

Eltargrim 12-02-2009 11:56 PM

A vote for Canada is...well, fuck, if you're voting based on the state of the country then you better hope the sky bully can save you. But seriously, Canada is great! We're even getting warmer, too; there's lasting snow on the ground for the first time this year.

For the record, that milestone usually comes around Halloween.

batgirl 12-02-2009 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerensky287 (Post 992220)
Now, see, THAT'S why a vote for Canada is a bad idea.

EDIT FOR ABOVE: If you're that determined to get the position that you'd tear your own heart out of your chest then I may just re-vote you.

I'd tear out the hearts of other people...like Bob.

Bob The Mercenary 12-02-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by batgirl (Post 992219)
EDIT: Also I vote for Bob, because a vote for Bob is a vote for Bob.

Bob the Merc's a friend of the tobacco industry.
Bob the Merc likes your style.
Bob the Merc.
Bob the Merc.
Bob the Merc.
Bob the Merc.
*snore*

McTahr 12-02-2009 11:58 PM

Well, to be fair, the shit Messie "lost her shit" over was RaiRO.

I mean, I'm pretty sure like 50% of the forum down there lost its shit over RaiRO at one point or another.

Whenever she got over it I was backing her for GM-ship, if I remember correctly.

Mesden 12-02-2009 11:59 PM

I even became a gm/mod and did a good job until things kind of died.

But by the time I was a mod everyone who was rotten was gone so I dunno!

RaiRai 12-02-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by POS Industries (Post 992175)
You forgot Rai, too.

More testosterone than all of you combined on account of my giant e-peen which is the largest in the world not to mention the most attractive.

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Originally Posted by FenrisWolf (Post 992179)
The only thing Rai's done lately is come back regarding this thing and make us all feel bad for dogpiling on shiney when I'm just acting on my Freudian impulses.

Aye, whereas that might be true I do the whole 'lurking in shadows' bit for shitz'n'giggles. And Shiney got his own dose of Rai's annoyance (and sleep deprivation) in private. With paddles.

And, just because I can;

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Originally Posted by POS Industries (Post 991610)
Seriously. I've got a picture of my donger ready to go to whatever admin wants a gander. Heads up, Shiney: Your wife will never be satisfied with you again.

Where do I subscribe?

Bob The Mercenary 12-03-2009 12:02 AM

OMG RAIRAI WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HOW'S THE BABY *hugs*

Corel 12-03-2009 12:03 AM

Mm, I think Eltargrim and Batgirl would make pretty decent moderators; they're both level headed members who are well received in the community and would like to see things run smoothly.

Well, until Eltargrim gets alcohol fueled and come stumbling in at 3 in the morning and oh god not again.

DFM 12-03-2009 12:05 AM

Hey it's RaiRai I remember you from 2005

POS Industries 12-03-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiRai (Post 992229)
Where do I subscribe?

Oh, it's hanging around on at least a couple anonymous hookup sites, at least.

Kerensky287 12-03-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Eltargrim (Post 992223)
A vote for Canada is...well, fuck, if you're voting based on the state of the country then you better hope the sky bully can save you. But seriously, Canada is great! We're even getting warmer, too; there's lasting snow on the ground for the first time this year.

For the record, that milestone usually comes around Halloween.

We still don't have snow up here in Kingston. It's raining outside as I type this.

But snow is part of Canada's personality, part of our appeal. Canada without snow is like Fifthfiend without the self-bias.

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Originally Posted by batgirl (Post 992224)
I'd tear out the hearts of other people...like Bob.

But then YOU still wouldn't be heartless. And therefore you wouldn't be mod material. You've got my ultimatum - remove your own heart with your bare hands, and I'll cast my lot in with you as the reigning Lich-Queen of NPF.

Eltargrim 12-03-2009 12:06 AM

If made mod, I promise not to moderate while drunk!

...that completely ruins the appeal, doesn't it?

If made mod, I promise to only moderate while drunk!

...that isn't better.

If made mod, I'll only moderate while drunk sometimes. There. It's settled.

EDIT FOR:

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Originally Posted by Kerensky287 (Post 992235)
We still don't have snow up here in Kingston. It's raining outside as I type this.

...
D:
D:
I feel so very sorry for you.

RaiRai 12-03-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DFM (Post 992233)
Hey it's RaiRai I remember you from 2005

Hey. I remember you from...wait, no I don't.

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Originally Posted by POS Industries (Post 992234)
Oh, it's hanging around on at least a couple anonymous hookup sites, at least.

What's the fun in it being anonymous? You want stalkers, don't you? I thought that was the whole reason people used those sites to begin with!

krogothwolf 12-03-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Eltargrim (Post 992236)
If made mod, I promise not to moderate while drunk!

...that completely ruins the appeal, doesn't it?

If made mod, I promise to only moderate while drunk!

...that isn't better.

If made mod, I'll only moderate while drunk sometimes. There. It's settled.

Dude, you're still going to break that promise...

Is anyone else creeped out by the combination of POS Avatar and him talking about his shlong or is it just me?

POS Industries 12-03-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiRai (Post 992237)
What's the fun in it being anonymous? You want stalkers, don't you? I thought that was the whole reason people used those sites to begin with!

Well, it turns out that the locals are all kinda fugly and the whole endeavor was kind of a massive disappointment all around.

Though I guess it still beats actually getting to know them as people first.

batgirl 12-03-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerensky287 (Post 992235)
But then YOU still wouldn't be heartless. And therefore you wouldn't be mod material. You've got my ultimatum - remove your own heart with your bare hands, and I'll cast my lot in with you as the reigning Lich-Queen of NPF.

You know you're cruising for a little "barely ether controlled surgery involving the complete shuffling of all your organs where your rectum is placed right by your salivary glands."

Kerensky287 12-03-2009 12:12 AM

Dammit, RaiRai! You've managed to derail the thread! Shame on you. I'm gonna e-mail Brian with this until he fires you, THIS WILL NOT STAND.

But yeah, RaiRai, who do YOU think should be a moderator? Mods get a decision too.

EDIT FOR ABOVE: Batgirl, less threatening, more autocardiectomy. (Pretty sure that's a word...)

RaiRai 12-03-2009 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerensky287 (Post 992243)
But yeah, RaiRai, who do YOU think should be a moderator? Mods get a decision too.

I appreciate the thought, but I will decline on the decision making stuff. The fact is, I know I haven't been 'active' enough to give an informed decision on who I believe would make a good member of the team. So I don't feel justified in commenting on it and I trust that everyone else here will give informed responses.

...and I'm lazy.

(And apparently used the word 'informed' twice, by which I am deeply saddened.)

DFM 12-03-2009 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiRai (Post 992237)
Hey. I remember you from...wait, no I don't.

Fire RaiRai

Kerensky287 12-03-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiRai (Post 992245)
I appreciate the thought, but I will decline on the decision making stuff. The fact is, I know I haven't been 'active' enough to give an informed decision on who I believe would make a good member of the team. So I don't feel justified in commenting on it and I trust that everyone else here will give informed responses.

...and I'm lazy.

(And apparently used the word 'informed' twice, by which I am deeply saddened.)

Using the word "informed" twice was actually effective use of language because it compares your lack of activity/lack of informed decision-making to other peoples' surplus activity/surplus of informed responses. So yeah.

And while everybody else is campaigning for themselves I guess I may as well throw my lot in too. I mean, I have about as much chance to actually get a (serious) nomination as like, Bluesy, maybe less. But I'd try my hand at it if I had the chance.

Because it seems like SUCH AN EASY JOB, you guys!! What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

MasterOfMagic 12-03-2009 12:27 AM

I know this was waaay back forever ago in forum time, since were'd all hyped up tonight, but:

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Originally Posted by Funka Genocide (Post 992135)
also I'm pretty sure that Master of Magic is a genuine "Good Guy" and so I wouldn't want him to have to sully himself with the dirty business of forum moderation.

Haha, what the fuck. I don't even know what that means! I'm going to take it as a compliment until further notice.

And, for the record, I'd probably be the worst mod ever.

EDIT: Can't even edit anymore! Arrgh! That's my greatest weakness.

DFM 12-03-2009 12:28 AM

Means you can't take the pressure.

Krylo 12-03-2009 12:28 AM

Oh, hai Rai.

Yeah. I have absolutely nothing to add to this discussion at this time, but I kinda felt like I should toss out a hello.

Fenris 12-03-2009 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterOfMagic (Post 992251)
And, for the record, I'd probably be the worst mod ever.

You've got the job!

Seil 12-03-2009 12:29 AM

Imma do the pirate thing and vote for me.

Arr.

Mes and CJ are good choices too, I guess.

Eltargrim 12-03-2009 12:29 AM

I've already stated that I plan to mod while drunk. I'm not sure how you could top that.

...oh god WHAT HAVE I DONE?!

bluestarultor 12-03-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerensky287 (Post 992250)
I mean, I have about as much chance to actually get a (serious) nomination as like, Bluesy, maybe less. But I'd try my hand at it if I had the chance.

Because it seems like SUCH AN EASY JOB, you guys!! What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

I'd say just about anyone who's been around for more than a year has a better chance than I do of being seriously considered. :J

But frankly, I have a pretty good idea of the pacing required to moderate and can handle it. Unless anyone else ever handled multiple conversations on two accounts writing as two different characters in Gaia's Chatterbox using only one browser. :cool:

Loyal 12-03-2009 12:37 AM

My first act as moderator would be to correct the grammar on the Social super-subforum while otherwise leaving it unchanged.

Also who the hell put all those "u"s in Crowd Favorites?

MuMu 12-03-2009 12:38 AM

Dunno if this has already been addressed between the higher ups but since all we got was a "Vote for people" I think we should think about it. With the demotion of Fifth we didn't get only a vaccum of power, but also a vaccum of time to apply it. No idea what the hell the guy does, but he was here almost the entire day and handled most worries as quickly as efficient. Unfortunately, while I do believe most NPFers are mature and responsible enough to handle this job, this maturity also comes with a lack of time to watch the forums since most of them are in college, have a demanding job, a family or all of them. Thus, I ask that not for one moderator to be elected, but two of them, so they may do their thing without much stress.

SO! Who I'm voting for:

Snake: He seems like a very responsible and educated man and I feel he may lay a fine judgement upon us. Plus, getting banned by him might net us one of those awesome/enlightning posts of his.

CJ: She's the unofficial Mistress of Mansex but also a cool and friendly lady, although I'm not sure how she would feel having to drop the hammer on colleagues.

Extra vote: POS.

And Hi, I'm the guy that enjoys watching.

Fenris 12-03-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Loyal (Post 992260)
My first act as moderator would be to correct the grammar on the Social super-subforum while otherwise leaving it unchanged.

Also who the hell put all those "u"s in Crowd Favorites?

RaiRai after I complained that it was british.

Damn foreign commies takin' our jobs and eating our children.

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Originally Posted by bluestarultor (Post 992259)
Gaia's

Immediately disqualified.

Kerensky287 12-03-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Seil (Post 992255)
Imma do the pirate thing and vote for me.

Arr.

Mes and CJ are good choices too, I guess.

Oh fucking hell, now it's not even cool to vote for yourself. I retract my self-nomination.

But anyway, we've pretty much established that if it's a democratic decision, POS and CJ are shoe-ins, Mesden too possibly. I, for one, welcome our new evil overlords.

RaiRai 12-03-2009 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Loyal (Post 992260)
Also who the hell put all those "u"s in Crowd Favorites?

Fenris says: I demand Administrative powers for one reason only : to Americanize the spelling of the "Crowd Favourites" subforum
RaiRai/Fayn says: Now I'm going to add some extra U's just to piss you off.
Fenris says: :(
you're despicable
RaiRai/Fayn says: Why, thank you!
Fenris says: Welcome!

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Originally Posted by Bob the Mercenary (Post 992231)
OMG RAIRAI WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HOW'S THE BABY *hugs*

Missed this one, I apologize. I have been 'places' doing 'things'. Yes. And the little one has an ear infection which is all fun and games. Hope you're good, Bob.

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Originally Posted by FenrisWolf (Post 992262)
Damn foreign commies takin' our jobs and eating our children.

I obviously can't eat my own offspring at this point, he's too much gristle. Your American babies of fattiness will have to suffice.

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Originally Posted by DFM (Post 992246)
Fire RaiRai

...out of a cannon.

Loyal 12-03-2009 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiRai (Post 992265)
I obviously can't eat my own offspring at this point, he's too much gristle. Your American babies of fattiness will have to suffice.

Just so long as you don't eat Gigantor the Thunder-Tyke we'll be good.

MasterOfMagic 12-03-2009 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FenrisWolf (Post 992254)
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And, for the record, I'd probably be the worst mod ever.
You've got the job!

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Originally Posted by FenrisWolf (Post 992262)
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Gaia's
Immediately disqualified.

You need to get your stories straight, young man.

Truce 12-03-2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterOfMagic (Post 992268)
You need to get your stories straight, young man.

Even Evil Has Standards.

McTahr 12-03-2009 12:53 AM

Yeah dude, there's "Worst person for the job" and then there's "Gaia."

It's like the difference between "Well, if there's no one else I guess..." and "I would rather fornicate with a blender."

bluestarultor 12-03-2009 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FenrisWolf (Post 992262)
Immediately disqualified.

I've had since summer of 2007 to burn off the impurity, thank you. :p


But honestly, my average BEFORE my second account was over 20 posts per day. I don't think NPF could really flood me out.

Cloud Strife 12-03-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by McTahr (Post 992271)
Yeah dude, there's "Worst person for the job" and then there's "Gaia."

It's like the difference between "Well, if there's no one else I guess..." and "I would rather fornicate with a blender."

Quoted for Truth, with a capital T.

Fenris 12-03-2009 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bluestarultor (Post 992273)
I've had since summer of 2007 to burn off the impurity, thank you. :p


But honestly, my average BEFORE my second account was over 20 posts per day. I don't think NPF could really flood me out.

Disqualified harder.

Kerensky287 12-03-2009 12:59 AM

Bluesy, quit proving me wrong!

EDIT: Oh, hey, Pyros! Forgot about him. Make him an RP Forum Mod.

DFM 12-03-2009 01:01 AM

Kerensky your Lackadaisy avatar compels me to vote you to moderator position even though I know nothing about you except I think you used to have a baseball avatar.

bluestarultor 12-03-2009 01:05 AM

I frankly think it's hilarious. XD

I mean, crap, Gaia's a pit now, but it didn't used to be. Once I found NPF, I never went back, and the only thing I've used it for has been in the past year to throw my journals, since no one reads them, anyway.

At any rate, like I said, I don't expect to be considered. Would be great if I were, but not expecting it.

MasterOfMagic 12-03-2009 01:06 AM

Damn. You all are totally right, I don't know what got into my head.

Kerensky287 12-03-2009 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DFM (Post 992278)
Kerensky your Lackadaisy avatar compels me to vote you to moderator position even though I know nothing about you except I think you used to have a baseball avatar.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...eryunhappy.jpg

Fifthfiend 12-03-2009 01:13 AM

Master of Magic owns and is like CJ in that he owns so hard that I forget about it because recognizing his ownage is on par with staring into the sun, he is an ace dude and has been for as long as I have been here.

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Originally Posted by POS Industries (Post 992102)
I'm wondering if maybe we should give the subforum moderator thing a try instead of just bumping people up to full supermod status, like how Fenris started as Games/RP mod for a while.

I could see Mes doing well with General and News, CJ handling Art and Community, that sort of thing. It would afford the community a definitive go-to person for each area as well as not totally overloading whatever unlucky sod gets the job by having to reign over the forums in their entirety. And then you still have the supermods on call for backup or dealing with bigger fish.

The thing of this is 1. Fenris fucking hated it, I don't blame him for hating it and I can't imagine anyone not hating it, 2. shitty behavior tends to be shitty behavior and inasmuch as a person's judgment about shitty behavior is sound it's gonna tend to be sound whatever the situation.

I mean I kind of agree in that like there should be a supermod who also particularly knows what the fuck is going on with the RP forum and one who particularly knows what the fuck is up with the News Forum and the more Discussionsey General threads but I think strict divisions is kind of balkanizing things.

Archbio 12-03-2009 01:16 AM

That Jesus dude should totally be a mod.

Maybe the mod of the Soul and Spirits* subsection.

*Soul music and alcoholic beverages of course.

DFM 12-03-2009 01:17 AM

That fucking kat, Kerensky you and Mes can be avatar mods.

Arhra 12-03-2009 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Loyal (Post 992260)
My first act as moderator would be to correct the grammar on the Social super-subforum while otherwise leaving it unchanged.

Also who the hell put all those "u"s in Crowd Favorites?

We do it with British spelling because British is best!

Anyway, just thought I'd pop in to say I agree starting a bunch of people as subforum mods is probably a good idea.

Kim 12-03-2009 01:20 AM

At least, I think it would.
 
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Originally Posted by Arhra (Post 992288)
Anyway, just thought I'd pop in to say I agree starting a bunch of people as subforum mods is probably a good idea.

Agreed. Not only does it keep the new mods from having too much moderating for one person, it also keeps power in check, making it less likely that it'll be abused.

Fenris 12-03-2009 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend (Post 992285)
The thing of this is 1. Fenris fucking hated it, I don't blame him for hating it and I can't imagine anyone not hating it.

^

Truce 12-03-2009 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NonCon (Post 992289)
Agreed. Not only does it keep the new mods from having too much moderating for one person, it also keeps power in check, making it less likely that it'll be abused.

Personally, if they're going to abuse it, you might as well make it obvious as quickly as possible.

Fifthfiend 12-03-2009 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesden (Post 992228)
I even became a gm/mod and did a good job until things kind of died.

But by the time I was a mod everyone who was rotten was gone so I dunno!

A huge chunk of those rotten people being gone was due to you having good judgment and then me taking like fifty posts to stop being stupid and listen to your good judgment.

Kerensky287 12-03-2009 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DFM (Post 992287)
That fucking kat, Kerensky you and Mes can be avatar mods.

I may go back to Godot or Texas Chainsaw Edgar just out of spite for you.

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Originally Posted by Arhra (Post 992288)
Anyway, just thought I'd pop in to say I agree starting a bunch of people as subforum mods is probably a good idea.

I would almost agree except that it's probably hard to say exactly when a person is "good enough" for a full position. To be frank, almost all of the activity in the social forums are from regular members - there aren't going to be all that many things that require a mod to settle. It'd probably end up that you have a bunch of people as minimods of their little kingdoms, either getting fed up from not being able to use their power or trying so hard to use it that they interpret everything as an infraction.

Plus, if you make someone a mod, they need the little celebration wherein they play with their Mod CP for a bit, and if you do that for a bunch of people at once then IT'LL BE SHINEY ASSHOLE OR SHITFACE TIMES A THOUSAND.

Fifthfiend 12-03-2009 01:32 AM

If we had a way-ass bigger forum I would agree with the subforum mod thing, it's the sort of thing that's a good idea when nobody can be expected to pay meaningful attention to all or even most of the forum. The shitty comic book forum I post on does subforum mods because they have like two or three hundred thousand active users or some insane shit like that and nobody short of Superboy Prime escaping the comics universe and coming back into our own to moderate forums at super-speed could handle all of that shit.

Or like me because I literally am The Supermod and am pretty much the best mod of things ever but shit, y'all knew that fo'ready.

Arhra 12-03-2009 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerensky287 (Post 992297)
I would almost agree except that it's probably hard to say exactly when a person is "good enough" for a full position. To be frank, almost all of the activity in the social forums are from regular members - there aren't going to be all that many things that require a mod to settle. It'd probably end up that you have a bunch of people as minimods of their little kingdoms, either getting fed up from not being able to use their power or trying so hard to use it that they interpret everything as an infraction.

Plus, if you make someone a mod, they need the little celebration wherein they play with their Mod CP for a bit, and if you do that for a bunch of people at once then IT'LL BE SHINEY ASSHOLE OR SHITFACE TIMES A THOUSAND.

Well, that's basically the point - you put people as sub-moderators for a little while to see if they're really up to it and then promote 'em to full mod after, say, a month or so.

But yeah, I can see the point that many of the subforums don't really have that much need for a dedicated moderator.

Kerensky287 12-03-2009 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Arhra (Post 992304)
Well, that's basically the point - you put people as sub-moderators for a little while to see if they're really up to it and then promote 'em to full mod after, say, a month or so.

But yeah, I can see the point that many of the subforums don't really have that much need for a dedicated moderator.

The issue with having temporary sub-mods is that 1) on a forum like this, there's actually the possibility that they won't be needed AT ALL during that month and 2) when the month is up, you suddenly have like 8 more mods and that means that the active userbase becomes something like 1/10th moderator.

Eltargrim 12-03-2009 01:58 AM

I would think a sub-mod thing would be a bit more informal, ie Nik would have to be fairly active in Compy-land, but if he saw some shit going down in General, he could totally step in. Of course, if he wasn't around General at the time, no sweat off his back. More like areas of focus than strict borders.

Cloud Strife 12-03-2009 02:00 AM

I don't see that one working out, personally. People who were assigned 'areas of focus' could get all butthurt if someone else stepped in before they could in said assigned area. Could lead to a lot of dissension among the would-be mods.

Mesden 12-03-2009 02:01 AM

Or they could just be adults and air their grievances civilly.

Kim 12-03-2009 02:02 AM

It could work.
 
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Originally Posted by Cloud Strife (Post 992314)
I don't see that one working out, personally. People who were assigned 'areas of focus' could get all butthurt if someone else stepped in before they could in said assigned area. Could lead to a lot of dissension among the would-be mods.

You could always give each sub-mod several subforums. I.E. POS for News and General, CJ for Arts and Books, and Nikose for RP and Tech. Then you get half as many mods and they'd all probably maybe have some work some of the time.

Cloud Strife 12-03-2009 02:04 AM

To paraphrase. "That is Perfect. This is NPF." You're right, of course, Mesden, that it could go down like that. But humans will be, well, human.

DFM 12-03-2009 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesden (Post 992315)
Or they could just be adults and air their grievances civilly.

I like you, you're funny.

Fifthfiend 12-03-2009 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesden (Post 992315)
Or they could just be adults and air their grievances civilly.

Lowell T Katz, Forumtorney at Lawl.

Mike McC 12-03-2009 02:05 AM

Honestly, I think the best choice would not be to promote someone who is already very popular on the forums, but rather to choose more of an outlier in the community. Promoting a popular person from the core group in a community this size may lead to more problems than it solves. Ideally you want someone more detached from that core group, to minimize the bias they would have for as long as possible.

Just as long as it isn't me. Besides, I really don't have more than a snowball's chance in hell in the first place.

Eltargrim 12-03-2009 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud Strife (Post 992314)
I don't see that one working out, personally. People who were assigned 'areas of focus' could get all butthurt if someone else stepped in before they could in said assigned area. Could lead to a lot of dissension among the would-be mods.

I think that if they're getting butthurt and territorial about somebody making their life easier, they're not exactly prime mod material.

Hell, I mean isn't one thing that most of the (ex)-mods have been saying that people who legit want to be mods probably will do a shitty job and abuse power?

Cloud Strife 12-03-2009 02:07 AM

And with that you have doomed yourself to Mod-ship. Welcome aboard, son.

Mike McC 12-03-2009 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud Strife (Post 992324)
And with that you have doomed yourself to Mod-ship. Welcome aboard, son.

Hah hah hah. I'm sure that shiney would agree with me that my... eh, for lack of a better term, philosophy of moderation is quite incompatible with the other moderators.

McTahr 12-03-2009 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud Strife (Post 992314)
I don't see that one working out, personally. People who were assigned 'areas of focus' could get all butthurt if someone else stepped in before they could in said assigned area. Could lead to a lot of dissension among the would-be mods.

Honestly, if a bunch of potentials get in a tizzy over territory on a sprite comic forum, I'm really willing to just chalk that one up to Darwin.

Fenris 12-03-2009 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FenrisWolf (Post 992290)
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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend (Post 992285)
The thing of this is 1. Fenris fucking hated it, I don't blame him for hating it and I can't imagine anyone not hating it.

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To elaborate, I fucking hated it because I was picked for the job because it was felt that I was capable of being a moderator. What distinguishes shitty, against-the-rules behavior in one section generally carries over to the other sections. Being able to handle people when they were acting like cocks in one section but the instant you leave that section and happen upon somebody acting like a cock, being unable to do a thing about it but wait till one of your comoderators is incredibly frustrating.

Basically, if somebody's good enough to be a mod in one section, they're good enough to be a mod period.

Fifthfiend 12-03-2009 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike McC (Post 992322)
Honestly, I think the best choice would not be to promote someone who is already very popular on the forums, but rather to choose more of an outlier in the community. Promoting a popular person from the core group in a community this size may lead to more problems than it solves. Ideally you want someone more detached from that core group, to minimize the bias they would have for as long as possible.

Just as long as it isn't me. Besides, I really don't have more than a snowball's chance in hell in the first place.

Outliers are either people who 1. don't post or 2. post and people don't like them, either group is gonna be not a great mod choice due to either 1. not doing stuff or 2. doing stuff people don't like.

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Krylo 12-03-2009 03:26 AM

Everyone else is doing it. I just want to fit in.
 
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Mirai Gen 12-03-2009 03:56 AM

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Krylo 12-03-2009 04:00 AM

You always have to be difficult, don't you?

Well now you're definitely not getting my vote for mod.

We need team players, not loose cannons like you, Mirai.


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