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Hanuman 12-24-2009 03:28 AM

Swordchuck Stage 4: Presentation
 
Merry Xmas Everyone! I made a promise to myself to not sleep until I delivered, so here it is!
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In this stage we will be covering the progression and evolution of the swordchuck; different models, styles of using them, galleries and videos!

GALLERY Dec 23rd 2009: Mark 1 Testing

Skeletonhttp://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5...tonfinal01.jpg


Virgin Wickshttp://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6...ginfinal01.jpg

Mark 1 Firehttp://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2...chuckstill.jpg

Heldhttp://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4...624resized.jpg

Spin 1
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5...625resized.jpg


Spin 2http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3...626resized.jpg

Spin 3http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9...679resized.jpg

Spin 4http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/66/dsc1692resized.jpg

Spin 5http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5...690resized.jpg

Spin 6http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/782/dsc1709resized.jpg

Vortex 1http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7917/vortex01.jpg


Vortex 2http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3899/vortex02.jpg

All testing went well as planned, the heat was far FAR more intense than we had predicted, but the guards did their job perfectly, with gloves you don't feel them at all.
The superheated air on the other hand, is absolutely brutal and unforgiving.

Green Spanner 12-24-2009 06:42 AM

Holy. Shit.

This is at the very least deserving of some kind of super kudos. They would have been pretty badass by themselves, but on fucking fire?

You've impressed this grumpy sod at least.

Reaperz-XIII 12-24-2009 07:17 AM

You have restored my faith in humanity

Geminex 12-24-2009 07:37 AM

It has been said before, it shall be said again: This is far too awesome for words. You, sir, rock. You need to find a portal to another reality or something, where you can be sword-chuck man and fight crime.

Nexus 12-24-2009 04:45 PM

Once again.

I love you.

Not in a gay way though.

In a sword-chuck way.

Reaperz-XIII 12-24-2009 06:08 PM

Sell this idea to the military even if it is unpractical the awesomeness will make the enemies submit

willyolio 12-24-2009 11:24 PM

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7726/swordchuck.jpg
just had to make a demotivator...

ScarletIce 12-25-2009 12:20 AM

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You win the internet.

Nightshine 12-25-2009 02:19 AM

Someone give this guy a mod position.

Reaperz-XIII 12-25-2009 01:44 PM

Chuck Norris will piss himself at the site of those

Ecks 12-25-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightshine (Post 1000936)
Someone give this guy a mod position.

Seconded.

Nexus 12-25-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No_More_Than_Thirteen (Post 1001073)
Seconded.

Fifthed.

Hanuman 12-25-2009 09:53 PM

Thanks everyone, we are working on getting a video up!
In the meantime a full gallery has been posted to the facebook group, enjoy!

TARDIS 12-25-2009 11:49 PM

From that demotivator alone, it was awesome.

Who here votes for swordchucks coming back into 8BT and slicing Chaos into tiny sword chucked pieces?

in terms of FF, these would be Flametongue-chucks. Flametongue is the fire elemental sword, and these ones are on fire!

Hanuman 12-26-2009 10:28 PM

They became infused with some of the essence of kary while battling her?

Also, if you guys feel strongly about me becoming a mod, why not have a vote thread? =]

TARDIS 12-27-2009 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lev (Post 1001337)
They became infused with some of the essence of kary while battling her?

Also, if you guys feel strongly about me becoming a mod, why not have a vote thread? =]

no. I meant yours. they ARE on fire.

Meister 12-27-2009 08:39 AM

Lev you are insane and this is glorious. Shoot me a PM and I'll give you any name/user title customization you want that the forum allows for*except admin/mod and gold with glitter, obviously.

Reaperz-XIII 12-27-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meister (Post 1001419)
Lev you are insane and this is glorious. Shoot me a PM and I'll give you any name/user title customization you want that the forum allows for*except admin/mod and gold with glitter, obviously.

Come on I bet even Brian will be honored to share his status with the epitome of awesome and manliness.

Hanuman 12-27-2009 06:58 PM

Speaking of which, has Brian even seen these yet?
We might do some filming tonight... I woke up with the exact hair fighter has but I'll need to wash it down so the fire doesn't singe half my hair off =]

Reaperz-XIII 12-27-2009 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lev (Post 1001544)
Speaking of which, has Brian even seen these yet?
We might do some filming tonight... I woke up with the exact hair fighter has but I'll need to wash it down so the fire doesn't singe half my hair off =]

Why? If you catch fire then you can do more damage to your enemies, Red Mage taught us that

Eldezar 12-27-2009 11:46 PM

One year, one month and four days. That was some damn good perseverance there. First props is for lasting that long, as you were pretty much self-funded weren't you? Next is doing it all on your own and getting it done that quickly. Well, I don't know the average time for these kinds of projects, but I know it would have taken me a hell of a lot longer to do something like that.

Hanuman 12-28-2009 05:19 AM

A lot of the problems were indirectly solved, most of the problems were solved through connections and my personal journey into the fire community.
At the beginning of this project I had very little experience with fire, no experience with staff, meteor, doublestaff, torchpoi or structured nunchaku, but by the end of the project I was a fire community organizer, professional fire performer, had my own troupe, and had connections with people who had the knowledge and materials stocked to help me with what I needed.

Now, since I put them together I have slowly begun to discover how these are actually used... and what was once a struggle to keep them stable has become a complex fluidity, I used to treat them with 1 style of firetool... but they actually function in 3 different styles simultaneously, and can be instantly augmented into 2 different styles at will (that I've discovered this week). Honestly I've fallen in love with them, they are the most stylistically versatile firetool ever made and have so much potential for the future.

That being said, swordchucks are like a raging firebeasts, seriously guys, these things are HOT! I can't stress this enough... these are indescribably hot, compared to any other firetool ever made. These are SO hot, that even with thick leather gloves and correct usage you can still burn your hands just by the ambient heat, this is mainly due to the fact that the current model compresses 30% more fuel than a standard firesword uses (each) extremely close to your hands, all around them, and you're using 4 of them.
These are so hot I'm thinking I might need to mod special gloves specifically for using them.

Meister 12-28-2009 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldezar (Post 1001628)
Well, I don't know the average time for these kinds of projects, but I know it would have taken me a hell of a lot longer to do something like that.

I could slap together two sword-shaped poles that are chained together and also on fire in a week or so, no problem at all.

Note that this doesn't involve any kind of safety measures or indeed any planning at all beyond "don't do it in the house", and also absolutely no ideas for what to actually do with them other than run around a field yelling "call 911." Seeing as the construction thread is only two months or so old I imagine that's what took up the majority of the time.

Reaperz-XIII 12-28-2009 08:36 AM

Lev you should make ones that arent on fire and sell them, you would make a large profit.

Hanuman 12-29-2009 04:59 AM

I've created a forum group for swordchucks, part of the new videos I will be posting up shortly will provide a basis for people to start learning how to use swordchucks.

The funding was a major problem, if I had an extra $700 lying around I could have done it within a few months, but the social resources I built up let me build the prototype for under $80. I'm also trying to arrange a setup with a friend in a local coop, which should get me a ridiculously low rent and enough extra funds to start building new models... and the next stage of the project we've been planning for a while.

Fighter Armor.

Reaperz-XIII 12-29-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lev (Post 1001958)
I've created a forum group for swordchucks, part of the new videos I will be posting up shortly will provide a basis for people to start learning how to use swordchucks.

The funding was a major problem, if I had an extra $700 lying around I could have done it within a few months, but the social resources I built up let me build the prototype for under $80. I'm also trying to arrange a setup with a friend in a local coop, which should get me a ridiculously low rent and enough extra funds to start building new models... and the next stage of the project we've been planning for a while.

Flammable Fighter Armor.

I think you forgot one word but to do that you're gonna have to give away manuals on how to cast Life-3

Hanuman 12-29-2009 06:42 PM

The fighter armor will be mostly made of leather and metal, my armorer friend is making the oblique ribcage guarding now out of chainmail... But if you guys want I guess we could find a way of putting in detachable wicks and setting those on fire?

The videos will also have a complete run through of all the firesafety needed not to horribly disfigure or kill you, the rest is just practice and burn cream =]

Green Spanner 12-29-2009 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lev (Post 1002070)
The fighter armor will be mostly made of leather and metal, my armorer friend is making the oblique ribcage guarding now out of chainmail... But if you guys want I guess we could find a way of putting in detachable wicks and setting those on fire?

The videos will also have a complete run through of all the firesafety needed not to horribly disfigure or kill you, the rest is just practice and burn cream =]

Personally, I'm holding out until you make a Fire Helm out of somebody dressed as a catatonic Red Mage.

Hanuman 12-29-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Spanner (Post 1002071)
Personally, I'm holding out until you make a Fire Helm out of somebody dressed as a catatonic Red Mage.

Hmmm, If we used red military blankets to make the clothing we could spritz it with enough fuel to take a photo. This could work but I'll have to read into how dangerous covering yourself in fuel and setting yourself on fire is.

Reaperz-XIII 12-29-2009 09:57 PM

Since you tapped into the magic of the world to create real swordchucks, flaming swordchucks to be specific.

Can you guys create a real Hadoken?

Hanuman 12-29-2009 11:42 PM

Without my pyrotech license? Big water cannon set up with a high power firehose and a few spotlights shining through it?
But you're talking more hand-held... hmmm... anything that doesn't use an accelerator or combustable material would have to have a huge lens, a big powersource and a lot of funding... doesn't sound viable at this time.
I'll think about it and see what I can do. We can make staff-chucks like in the xmas 8bt thing that BM used though.

CopperNinja 12-30-2009 01:09 PM

The demotivator is now my desktop pattern.

Bob The Mercenary 01-01-2010 12:07 PM

First of all, you're a crazy bastard.

Second, I'd like to see what would happen if you took some sparklers, stripped the incendiary powder off of them, wrapped them in tin foil, and strapped them to the blades as they were set ablaze. Then swing them around yourself in a wide circular motion. It would be like Link's spin attack.

Even beyond that, if you swung hard enough some of the powder might come off in an arch, like a level 3 Master Sword in LoZ:LttP.

Protective eyegear is highly recommended.

Hanuman 01-02-2010 09:17 PM

Actually Bob, it's even easier than that. The fire community started using this stuff back in the early 2000's, and now the common name for it is firewire... basically you just set steel wool on fire and spin it fast and it becomes like a controllable firework.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXCUVo9pBYg#t=3m10s

Hanuman 02-08-2010 10:48 PM

OK, so update... no high quality video camera yet, my contacts are busy with Olympic stuff since that's pretty much the city buzz ATM.

I've hooked up with a con organizer (Anime Evolution) and we are arranging for me to teach swordchuck/firedancing workshops during the convention (in battle-ready fighter armor), should be cool =]

Aldurin 02-08-2010 11:02 PM

HOLY SHIT

Why haven't you started a sword-chuck company yet? I want to buy a set NOW!

These forums needs one of those best quotes things at the bottom like the Dink Network has.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lev (Post 1002082)
. . . I'll have to read into how dangerous covering yourself in fuel and setting yourself on fire is.

My case and point.

Hanuman 02-08-2010 11:12 PM

Quote:

Why haven't you started a sword-chuck company yet?
Trick Concepts would be the best venue for this sort of thing, I'm not really in it for money.

I've offered a raffle for a pair, but generally it's all about getting the kevlar for cheap, I can get my artist is make detailed blueprints if you guys are ambitious enough to build your own =]

Aldurin 02-08-2010 11:17 PM

Dude, you should see if Brian will make that part of the merchandise for 8-bit theater? Even have it "signed" by Fighter.

Hanuman 02-08-2010 11:37 PM

Well, that really depends if Brian supports the project in the first place.
I think I should get a video up since you guys are missing like 95% of what it actually looks like, and still will miss a whole bunch unless I film in HQ with a good camera so that's kinda what this whole thing is hinging on ATM.

The Olympics start next week and end soon after, the craziness will fizzle out at the end of the month so expect videos after that =]

Katuko 02-09-2010 09:02 AM

Quote:

Lev
Apostle of the Swordchuck
Normally I scoff at such titles (even your username's got a flame background) but goddammit, you deserve it.
I'm not usually into religion, but I'll make an exception for swordchuckery.

As for selling these things... is it really such a good idea to let random 8-bit fans with our usual level of geeky retardedness our hands on such weapons? :P

Hanuman 02-23-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katuko (Post 1014051)
Normally I scoff at such titles (even your username's got a flame background) but goddammit, you deserve it.
I'm not usually into religion, but I'll make an exception for swordchuckery.

As for selling these things... is it really such a good idea to let random 8-bit fans with our usual level of geeky retardedness our hands on such weapons? :P

I was actually using apostle as it's true meaning, I guess I overlooked it's religious implications and I think I'll change it, thanks!

Any fire tool can be safe given the proper training, practice, common sense, ect. Any fire tool can be entirely unsafe as well as with any level of danger put in someone's hands there are the odd "freak accidents" but the worst I've ever heard of IRL is 2nd degree burns.. happened to my friend last week in front of a fire safety technician (definition of freak accident).

I'm going to set up filming next month to cover what swordchucks are//how they work as well as cover all the fire safety needed to use them in a separate video (and possibly how to make them, depending if I can spare the funds for that).

Actually, I think I'll write a guide on how to learn to use Swordchucks right now.

Athas 03-02-2010 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lev (Post 1002082)
This could work but I'll have to read into how dangerous covering yourself in fuel and setting yourself on fire is.

Best quote ever.

Is there any video anywhere?

Hanuman 03-02-2010 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athas (Post 1020910)
Best quote ever.

Is there any video anywhere?

Sorry, not yet! We should have a HQ camera soon.
We are waiting on one to cover the depth of flame, as normal youtube-ish cameras only see it as orange outlines, where as fire is MUCH more beautiful than that.

Codemonkey85 03-04-2010 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lev (Post 1002136)
Without my pyrotech license? Big water cannon set up with a high power firehose and a few spotlights shining through it?...

What makes you so freaking cool, Lev, is that you take all of the inane and / or dangerous ravings that the crazy people of these forums vomit at you and you make them sound plausible.

And then for good measure, evidently you do them.

Hanuman 03-04-2010 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codemonkey85 (Post 1021708)
What makes you so freaking cool, Lev, is that you take all of the inane and / or dangerous ravings that the crazy people of these forums vomit at you and you make them sound plausible.

And then for good measure, evidently you do them.

Actually I'm getting the pre-reqs for my CFFPCP, but I'm afraid it will take AT LEAST a couple years before I'm able to use a fire hose for horsing around, or legally set off enough fireworks for the equivalent.

Thank you though =]

suzukiman 04-01-2010 10:31 AM

you could simply use blocks of ice in the form of cold fusion generators this will instantly cause cold fission (from sword chucks) and as a result cold heat add fuel and now you have cold fire. And as we all know from basic physics cold and hot cancel each other out so you will now have room temperature fire. This would also make it safe to indefinitely wear a burning red mage +1 fire helmet of con-fusion

It seems all that is missing is a few courses in basic fission and your good to go .... Just think the ice will cost virtually nothing

Aldurin 04-01-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzukiman (Post 1029565)
you could simply use blocks of ice in the form of cold fusion generators this will instantly cause cold fission (from sword chucks) and as a result cold heat add fuel and now you have cold fire. And as we all know from basic physics cold and hot cancel each other out so you will now have room temperature fire. This would also make it safe to indefinitely wear a burning red mage +1 fire helmet of con-fusion

It seems all that is missing is a few courses in basic fission and your good to go .... Just think the ice will cost virtually nothing

Red Mage would be proud.

:rmage: "I truly am."

Hanuman 04-01-2010 11:01 PM

Ok guys, new news.
The fire community just got a big leap in setting-stuff-on-fire technology, because of the use of pre-Ox wick we can now just hold fire, which means that if applied correctly we can have garments that are just on fire, which is nice to hear since the alternative is kind of risky for more than about 35 seconds.

I have been experimenting with lighting my leather gloves on fire, the ones I use for the swordchucks and they seem to be pretty resistant, so if I create a red mage outfit or cloak out of the standard red fireblanketing aka military cotton I'm pretty sure I can keep some fuel on me enough for a good photo or a short clip granted I wear a leather jacket underneath.

I'll contact some friends and see if I can get someone to wear me as a hat.

Bob The Mercenary 04-01-2010 11:57 PM

Dude, you really have impressed us enough. Don't go getting yourself killed or maimed. Though, with your prowess I'm sure you have the situation well under control.

Glad to hear you're still finding ways to make this even more awesome. Just, be careful! ><

Rejected Again 04-02-2010 12:53 AM

I'd set you on fire myself but I'm lazy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob the Mercenary (Post 1029765)
Dude, you really have impressed us enough. Don't go getting yourself killed or maimed. Though, with your prowess I'm sure you have the situation well under control.

Glad to hear you're still finding ways to make this even more awesome. Just, be careful! ><

Screw that, I want to visit you in the severe burn unit! I'd do it too....

brown_tiger 04-03-2010 01:55 PM

I'll laugh when he drops them.

Hanuman 04-04-2010 08:36 PM

I met up with my material supply contractor contact, there's a very good chance I can get my hands on some amazing material for this for 1/2 the cost - free depending on the material and how often it's shipped out, lots of different materials were brought up, but aluminized aramid seems to be the best option as I KNOW aramid doesn't even get singed from conducted heat and the treatment allows it to repel up to 3000 degrees (like a steel mill suit for furnace working), and since I would probably use a FPC treated military-grade cotton blanket for the cloak and set it on fire on top of me there would be no way for the heat to go through.

This is looking plausible... =]

Hanuman 05-10-2010 03:36 PM

Bad news... heh.
Since the weather has warmed up and dried out the swordchucks are now much much hotter... mind you I was using them when it was frosty out last, now it's T-shirt at night weather.

We are playing around with fuel combos trying to find the right mix to get the flame a little cooler until the new gloves arrive, I'm going to try out the welding glove option in the meantime and see if those are flexible enough.

We are having a shoot in the next 7 days, I'll post more pictures when I can =]

rpgdemon 05-10-2010 04:46 PM

Heh, don't burn yourself out over it, take your time.

(Pun intended.)

krogothwolf 05-10-2010 05:18 PM

I keep having Vision's of Lev and his flaming Sword-Chuks fighting against the guy with the Atomic Robo costumes. I can't help.

Keep up the good work though Lev!


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