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P-Sleazy 01-04-2010 01:35 PM

Just out of curiosity, what have you done with your interest rates during this entire 20 year time period?

Bob The Mercenary 01-04-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Melfice
I would assume option 2, because I'm sure Bob would have noticed them.
Though, it's not like they actually contribute to much of the Netherlands' worth.

That is correct sir!

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
In the meantime, however, the comment I've quoted has conjured another idea in my mind for a potential strategy: could we utilize covert operations to keep the United States in this conflict, forcing them to steadily drain resources and spread out into disparate territory? This would gradually weaken the United States and siphon its ability to deploy military forces elsewhere. We should consider using faked terrorist attacks to prevent any possibility of a ceasefire agreement anytime soon, while encouraging the US to take faroff territories. One idea, for example, would be to fake a New Zealand terrorist attack on the US, just to force the US to declare war on New Zealand, invade one of the furthest, isolated countries on the map, and station military forces there

Or we could just make them go to war with anyone we want at gunpoint (like Russia if you want some fireworks). This game has a couple very very cheap exploits built in that they never fixed, or just couldn't fix without breaking the game. One being that, as long as the relations are bad enough between two countries, you can get them to declare war on anyone with a simple "request war declaration" treaty. I've started many a WWIII through this exploit, just frame someone with enough terrorism, then request war.

Or...if you want to get the world really pissed, just force them to annex the regions they inhabit. It would be United States vs 190 countries.

Another common exploit is taking government control of every resource and changing your government type to socialist. Somehow some way this always manages to bring a disparate country out of the money pit. The only thing, it doesn't usually work on countries that are okay to begin with. Like if you tried it in the U.S. your population would flip out.

The only reason I haven't used either of these is that I would like some semblance of realism. But, if you want me to force the U.S. to reduce itself to a parking lot, by god I'll do it.

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Originally Posted by Geminex
In regards to giving up our territories in other places: Hell no. I'm not sure what strategy you're pushing right now, but if it's oil then you really, really want to hold on to Saudi Arabia. You can give them our South American holdings if you must (if we ever get around to annexing them), but I'd recommend to keep and consolidate what we have. It's not worth much, but as far as staging areas go, it'll be invaluable later. Admittedly, what we hold of India might be worth quite a lot, should we gift-wrap it and present it to the nato, so that could be one option. Alternately, could we give what we own of the Indian main land back to India, in return for whatever parts of Africa they took?

The problem with getting the US involved in more wars is that it probably wouldn't hurt them too much, while giving them more and more territory. Yes, it'll be draining to hold that territory, and it'll weaken them, but it then belongs to THEM. Meaning that eventually, we'll have a map where every country is either highly developed or belongs to the US.

As far as trading regions to India in return for regions they took from us. Actually, when they invaded Mauritania, Mauritania reassumed possession of those territories. Though, if we simply signed a "free region" treaty, that would get us on very good terms with India, who currently has no army or navy. In my opinion, I like the idea of annexing as much as possible, then much later trading useless regions for alliances and the like. We'll annex them, then see how it effects our economy. Then we'll make a decision as to give them away or use and abuse them.

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Originally Posted by Tev
How do we look imports/exports-wise? In order to gain some ground in that Sweden/Finland alliance, I'd propose maybe a free-trade deal with them since they are close and it won't cost us much to ship crap to them. Since we got booted from NATO, I'm willing to be a little vindictive and up the tariffs on their goods a bit to cover the loss.

I'll get to work on this right away. Might be a while before they sign anything with us though. I do like being a member of a trade federation close to home along with a possible alliance.

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Originally Posted by Geminex
How's our military? What casualties did we take?

6478 troops, 109th in the world
1086 armored, 58th in the world
Air force and navy were both completely destroyed.

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Originally Posted by B_real_shadows
Just out of curiosity, what have you done with your interest rates during this entire 20 year time period?

Interest rate now stands at 50% with a 90% income tax.

Yeah, it's hard times.

[Edit] And our national debt just broke $1 trillion.

Bob The Mercenary 01-04-2010 09:11 PM

October 30th, 2023

The USA finally signed a cease fire and ended this bloody war, but not without first watching with disdain as India produced a single patrol boat...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ary/sp61-1.jpg

...which was promptly destroyed.

I began the process of rebuilding and managing our tattered nation, leading me to the resource screen where I noticed something odd.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ary/sp60-1.jpg

Our people were hopelessly addicted to tobacco, yet we weren't importing or producing any of it. It was costing us $1.5 billion in, what I can only assume to be rehab sessions...or Nicoret. I remedied the situation by making all tobacco products illegal until we can find a proper source of...tobacco products. But you can still smoke a doobie! We're one of the leading producers of them!

I tried some practice saves where I annexed each territory we owned and saw what their effect on our economy and world relations was. If we annex India, our economy goes virtually bankrupt, so I would recommend either signing a free region treaty, or using that as primarily a staging area. We can safely annex Venezuela, the third of the UAE we own, and the center third of Saudi Arabia. These three combined cut our deficit in half and it continues to fall, we are still only at 100% resources (we could go up higher, when I took over the world I had something like 9875525642385%, I was making bank), but at least I'm not getting warnings anymore every couple minutes saying that I might lose the game at any second because my spending is out of control.

We are also friendly with NATO again, though not nearly enough to re-enter, I doubt we'll ever be able to do that. Half of Africa and Asia hate our guts, but they won't bother us for now.

Geminex 01-04-2010 09:47 PM

Nice! In that case, I say we do what you've already done and Annex Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and UAE.

I know we shouldn't even be thinking of military endeavors yet, but what's the situation of the nations on the African West Coast, down to Nigeria? Just whether we could beat them (in sequence)?
Unless we're excessively desperate, I wouldn't use any of the game-breaking you've mentioned...

Oh, and where are our covert forces engaged?

How did we manage 1 trillion in debt? Even over 23 years, that's a bit much for a nation like us... Then again, we conquer across oceans, so whatever.
I don't know what financial advice to give you... I'm not sure of the situation.

Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope 01-04-2010 09:52 PM

Keep tobacco Illegal. We gotta some how trim that debt.

Bob The Mercenary 01-04-2010 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex
How did we manage 1 trillion in debt?

For every month we have a deficit, a certain percentage gets added onto our debt. Take a $30-60 billion deficit over 22 years, and I guess that's what you get. Although I did spend some on stimuli to different resources along the way to keep them in the green.

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Originally Posted by Mac
Keep tobacco Illegal. We gotta some how trim that debt.

Will do, though when we annexed Venezeula we seemed to have hit a patch of it. Nothing earth shattering. It maybe covers 1/15 of our consumption.

Geminex 01-04-2010 11:12 PM

Perhaps skyrocket the tobacco tax? Just enough to reduce consumption to what we get from Venezuela?

And how can we best make our population like us without spending obscene amounts of money?

P-Sleazy 01-04-2010 11:28 PM

Reduce income taxes by 3%. people love reductions in taxes! Alternatively, you could also decrease the interest rate. People love lower interest rates. It allows them to buy new homes!

Tev 01-04-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex (Post 1003555)
Perhaps skyrocket the tobacco tax? Just enough to reduce consumption to what we get from Venezuela?

No, that's silly talk. We're getting our people clean of the stuff. Turn that Tobacco into a serious export to places like America, China, and France. A dealer doesn't make money using his own stock, even at a high tax.

Bob The Mercenary 01-05-2010 12:29 AM

January 1, 2028

What other way to celebrate the new year than with some war!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp75.jpg

Yup, they're at it again. This time with Zimbabwe and their 34 allies, including Russia and Pakistan. All of this was just another attempt for the U.S. to show off its naval superiority one more time against anyone with something that still floats. The war wasn't much of a contest and hey is that a nuclear sub?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp76.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp77.jpg

The U.S. and Russia played chicken with their subs for honestly, like, three years straight. The entire war was "U.S. moves fleet to South America, Russia moves fleet to India, U.S. moves fleet to India, Russia moves fleet to South America, over and over and over and over...they could never reach a point simultaneously so the war ended with only saber rattling between the two powers. Unfortunately, the business never got out of control.

http://www.sonyinsider.com/wp-conten...toctober_4.jpg

"One ping please."

I did get a lot done in terms of treaties though. We got new economic partnerships with Ireland, Hungary, Finland, Sweden, Germany, Spain, and the UK. We even nailed common markets with France, Italy, Canada, Greece, and Hungary. So I guess we're back in business. I also lowered the tax rate by 3% as suggested and released India back to India because it was honestly worth nothing to us.

And I annexed Mauritania, which really didn't do much of anything. Just gave us a new military playground. Out of our next possible targets I say we go for the Congo. Highest concentration of resources, easiest match for us.


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