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Geminex 01-11-2010 10:21 PM

Hmm... I'm fine with taking the smaller nations first... though let's limit ourselves to the most valuable ones... But we'll have to take a big one and make ourselves unpopular eventually... Is there anyway we can minimize the diplomatic repercussions of invading the more important African states? With the US's support, with our fairly huge military, our allies? Can we use covert terrorism against ourselves, blaming Nigeria? Something along those lines.

Before this, I wasn't really considering a nuclear programme. But if we develop one, could that stave off war? Because at the moment, the only thing stopping us from gaining economic supremacy is the fact that people would get annoyed if we capture the countries we need to...

Flarecobra 01-11-2010 11:04 PM

We have before, when we first invaded what I'm calling "New Netherlands."

Solid Snake 01-11-2010 11:05 PM

Do we control some inland territory of Saudi Arabia, still? I can't quite tell the difference between the light-gray shaded and green-tinted territory we possess.
I want to go after Morocco next. I think my general strategy recommendation would be to clear out enough of North Africa and annex Croatia and use all that territory as a staging point for taking out Europe, with the aid of the United States. Then once we consolidate Europe we'd finally be in a far superior economic and infrastructural position and we'd be able to challenge the United States, develop nukes without consequences, and hopefully invade Russia.

We should definitely also consider consolidating our west African holdings into a single territory, whereas now it seems cleaved up into several smaller segments.

Finally, we should pursue an alliance with India in order to ensure Pakistan isn't invaded by Indian forces anytime soon. Regardless of who controls Pakistan, India probably wants that territory, and now it's just been conquered by forces that do not have access to Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. India might get greedy, or they might, alternatively, be quite pleased with the removal of the Pakistani threat. Either way, an alliance would protect a border in a region where we probably won't be terribly active anytime soon.

Dracorion 01-11-2010 11:07 PM

We could try to attack ourselves more than once and pin it on the bigger African nations. Does the game let you pretend that you captured someone? Because we could pretend to capture one or two groups to show that we're not entirely incompetent.

It's been like, thirty years since we faked our attack, shouldn't everyone have forgotten about it by now?

Geminex 01-11-2010 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 1006150)
Do we control some inland territory of Saudi Arabia, still? I can't quite tell the difference between the light-gray shaded and green-tinted territory we possess.
I want to go after Morocco next. I think my general strategy recommendation would be to clear out enough of North Africa and annex Croatia and use all that territory as a staging point for taking out Europe, with the aid of the United States. Then once we consolidate Europe we'd finally be in a far superior economic and infrastructural position and we'd be able to challenge the United States, develop nukes without consequences, and hopefully invade Russia.

We should definitely also consider consolidating our west African holdings into a single territory, whereas now it seems cleaved up into several smaller segments.

Finally, we should pursue an alliance with India in order to ensure Pakistan isn't invaded by Indian forces anytime soon. Regardless of who controls Pakistan, India probably wants that territory, and now it's just been conquered by forces that do not have access to Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. India might get greedy, or they might, alternatively, be quite pleased with the removal of the Pakistani threat. Either way, an alliance would protect a border in a region where we probably won't be terribly active anytime soon.

We still control quite a chunk of Saudi Arabia, I think.
An alliance with India might be good, but not essential. India got screwed pretty hard by the honorable US of A last time they attacked us, I'm guessing they're still recovering and not too keen to try again.

I'm very much against doing much more than we've already done in Africa. The North isn't all that wealthy, correct me if I'm wrong, and while it'd be useful to have should we be invading mainland Europe, I'd advise against said invasion for now. Our forces and big, but I doubt they're big enough to take on the entirety of Nato military, particularly since quite a few of those have nukes. Admittedly, they might neglect to use them again, but I wouldn't count on it.

No, let's put off the invasion of Europe for now... When our West African conquest is complete, I'd advise much more strongly to take the middle East. Partly because this'd give us a third staging area through which we could strike at Europe, but primarily because of oil. We already have West Africa and once we have Nigeria, we'll have quite a chunk of the world's oil output. Taking the middle east will only enlarge our growing monopoly. Once we have the middle east, we can capture the most oil-productive south American regions. Then we turn to Northern Europe, Norway, Finland, Sweden. And then we control about 80% of the world's oil, particularly if we get a trade agreement with the US.

We could challenge the Nato in a few years' time and maybe even win, but I prefer the oil strategy, since it's fairly subtle, shouldn't require excessive military force, and because eventually we won't even have to fight Europe, we can just buy it. Either that or watch its economy collapse and march in once they can no longer support an army.

Bob The Mercenary 01-12-2010 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
Do we control some inland territory of Saudi Arabia, still?

Yep, we still have the center region. Along with Venezuela, which China and Brunei will just not stop sitting their ships offshore and hitting with cruise missiles. The coast is the only part we don't officially own and is being occupied militarily by Japan. I'm starting to feel sorry for that place.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nary/sp211.jpg

I started an arms trade with the U.S. so they can rebuild a little to support me while buying units off of me. I also opened a cultural exchange with India to soften them up a little. Who knows if they'll be our allies by the end, what with all the different wars going on. And it looks like NATO might slowly be starting to rebuild. The U.S. is now allied with the U.K. and Italy, along with us.

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Originally Posted by Geminex
Before this, I wasn't really considering a nuclear programme. But if we develop one, could that stave off war?

Once we got it it would. But, in the time between start and finish, people would be more hard pressed to stop it from happening. We would be slightly more likely to be attacked, but not if we wait until our relations are good. After that we would have a little more room for error. Though it wouldn't stave off all war. Eventually something would give.

We can consolidate our African territories most easily by taking Nigeria. That seems to be our next logical target. Then we can move on up the coast. We'll probably end up trying the oil baron strategy.

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Originally Posted by Dracorian
We could try to attack ourselves more than once and pin it on the bigger African nations. Does the game let you pretend that you captured someone? Because we could pretend to capture one or two groups to show that we're not entirely incompetent.

It's been like, thirty years since we faked our attack, shouldn't everyone have forgotten about it by now?

You'd be surprised. This damn game is Skynet. The AI is designed to learn from your play style as you play. But, it's also designed so that every country has a different AI, and none of them know who the human player is. It can get freaky.

Geminex 01-12-2010 01:06 AM

Very well then. No MAD for us, then. So, I guess, just put some more money into aid, perhaps lower the oil price a tick... It'll cost us, but if it raises our popularity more quickly we'll regain whatever we lost from the oil in nigeria. Seriously, that place is fucking loaded. Are there any other ways to soothe the tempers of the world and let us continue in our conquest more quickly? It's already been mentioned to use covert tactics to fabricate an excuse to invade nigeria... but can we use covert to directly raise our popularity?

And speaking of popularity, we're still sinking money into propaganda, aren't we? I'm fine with that, we need to stay in control of the country after all. What interests me is what the propaganda that we so constantly produce would look like... I sorta have an image of posters on every street corner, glorifying the president and his loyal counsel. "Look into the faces that will lead us to victory!"
And perhaps a poster for each individual member, depicting his or her virtues and, of course, loyalty.

Bob The Mercenary 01-12-2010 09:26 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nary/sp221.jpg

I wonder why that is. >_>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nary/sp220.jpg

I'm going out for drinks with friends. When I return, the attack begins.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche 01-12-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex (Post 1006190)
And perhaps a poster for each individual member, depicting his or her virtues and, of course, loyalty.

Even the crazy ones?

Dracorion 01-12-2010 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by grthwllms (Post 1006459)
Even the crazy ones?

Especially the crazy ones. Mine would be: "Aren't you glad this psychopath's on your side?"

Which reminds me, we need to start thinking long term. I want to be crazy prepared for Europe. Start fortifying ourselves like we were storming the beaches tomorrow. Not only would it make it that much easier to deal with what they'd throw at us, we can do it sooner; and be prepared just in case someone tries to do something crazy at us while we're taking Africa.


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