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I like the idea of having someone initiate a war with the UAE for us, but who should it be? I'm pretty sure any NATO country can take them out in one shot, then we can just move in. We're not quite capable of taking them by ourselves. Maybe have the U.S. do it, so that the mideast hates them even more and we can maybe get them taken out in the process. |
I approve of that course of action.
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The Arab War
March 28, 2016
The threat from the mideast did nothing to hide it's presence, and only one thing was left to do... Extinguish it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp52.jpg Coerced by us, Israel's armies reached the shores of Sharjah in the northern UAE and met the full force of the Arabs in combat while their navies met in the Gulf. Saudi Arabia quickly joined in to back up their ally in a battle further south, towards the Arabian border. We didn't follow too far behind as our entire army snuck between the two battles unseen and took the region in between. That's when our commanding officer recieved the call. Our navy had been engaged off the coast of Mauritania. The Saudis had sent everything they had...we wouldn't last long. "They are lost," I radioed to the commander. "For them" was my order. At that moment, the southern battle ended with an Israeli defeat. What was left of the Saudi army, mostly stragglers and the wounded, remained. The commander saw his chance to avenge his friends back home, now at the bottom of the Atlantic. He surged forward with the entirety of the Netherland army and engaged them in Dubai. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp50.jpg It was never close. We steamrolled them without losing a single man...then turned our heads south. The army was left standing at the border, facing into Saudi Arabia itself, with only the garrison at the capital left in front of them. The objective was the defeat of the Emirates, but they were as of yet distracted. If we could just take out the rest of them, we would not only have the Emirates, but all of Saudi Arabia. I ordered them to charge the capital, the opposing forces met just outside of Riyadh. A perfect match. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp53.jpg It was bloody, but we came out victorious. However, we had only taken two regions when the word came on the wires...the war was over, the UAE and the Saudis had surrendered. We could go no further, or else risk a larger war. So we took our winnings and cashed out. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp54.jpg Here's what the ownership of Saudi Arabia looks like. And here's our cohesive, easily manageable empire... I think we just created East and West Arabia. xD And thanks to Israel not letting go of the regions they took, we also have a North and South UAE. Though, we lost our economic ties with Canada. Thank God no one put any embargos on us. And we were kicked out of NATO. I say good riddance. We're going to take them over eventually anyway. |
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We still have it, but our navy was taken out.
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Fuck Canada (me saying that o_O), do we really need there ties?
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Hmm...Guess we need to get cracking on our navy.
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October 10, 2017
Flare, after what I just witnessed... We don't need no steenkeeng navy! Hey Mac, remember how you suggested we get some markets opened with Venezuela? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ary/sp54-2.jpg How's about we just take the country. I think that's easier. Let me explain how this awesomeness happened. I was working on the budget when out of nowhere, Saudi Arabia declares war on us again. Mind you, they have no army. So I say, "okay fine" and proceed to walk into their country and take two more regions... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ary/sp55-2.jpg After that, Venezuela declares war on me, seeing my land grab. I pause the game as I see them ready to deploy troops to Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, and mainland Netherlands. I quickly called up the diplomatic relations window to see who hates them the most and might be able to give me a hand. The United States was at the top of the list. They declared war on Venezuela and booted them out of our country while at the same time grabbing the half of SA that I didn't grab yet. It was hilarious, I was in a panic trying to occupy all the regions before the U.S. did while they did the same. They ended up getting this much of the pie. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ary/sp56-2.jpg The U.S. took out the regiment that was going for our mainland, one portion of our army won a nailbiter in Mauritania (I was 100% sure it was a lost cause), and what was left of our troops in SA I sent to take over Venezuela itself because, having declared war on us, they left themselves wide open. Now I think may be the time to rest and rebuild a bit. Maybe allow our relations to thaw some. We've made ridiculous gains today. [Edit] I forgot to mention. During that madness a lot of countries made alliances. Finland and Sweden were two of them. This could be good for us, but it would mean instead of trying to take them over, we should get friendly with them, hopefully friendly enough to get in on the alliance. The other alliances were Mali/Guatamala, Romania/Belarus, and Hungary/Slovenia. |
I guess at this point we need to start reclaiming the old colonies in the Caribbean along with Suriname and Guyana.
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We have Venezuala and Saudi Arabia, we have a a huge exporter of oil right now. What I would do for a suggestion is to ramp up the cost of oil as we have a near monopoly for sale to the international markets while we work on renewable green resources.
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Considering how trigger-happy everyone seems to be, raising oil prices might be a very bad idea.
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Alternatively, use the oil to raise our international standing; nothing makes friends like cheap oil; make them want to get it from us, and then they'll ignore our...indiscretions.
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Yeah, it's time to rest, rebuild, and recover. Let us solidify our holdings, and rebuild our navy.
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This is excellent!
Not just the land gains, but look at those staging areas! And all of them in oil-rich regions! God, had I known something like this was possible, I would have suggested it much sooner... Pity about our navy, but we can rebuild that when we're economically stable. I'd definetly advise that we let our holdings in South America and the middle east remian constant right now. Consolidate, fortify. Right now, we should focus all of our resources on continuing in South Africa. See if you can't do the whole covert shmick which we screwed mauritius over with again- Only this time do it for all of Africa's west coast. It's ok if it takes a while, we can use that time to reinforce our ground army. And why the hell is propaganda so high? Can't you cut that in half and put whatever's left into education? |
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The world just went through some big changes, that's why everything is spoilered. There's lots and lots of screenshots.
Herein the US goes fucking nuts. At one point, during the initial invasion of India, the U.S. had 200,000 of its units against 1,500,000 units from 65 different countries...and somehow won...then just for good measure took their still #1 ranked navy and drifted over to South America, taking out most of their navies. Then they went back over to Indonesia and finished their navy. They even floated to the arctic circle north of Russia to take on Turkey and Tunisia's navies. Bad. Ass. On October 31st, 2018, the U.S. signed a cease fire with Serbia, eliminating 35 countries from the war. They were in the straight just south of Saudi Arabia for what seemed like years, as every fucking nation on the planet sent their navies in swarms, 300-style, being taken out one by one. On April 10th, 2019, Japan declared war on Venezuela and took over the coast that we had lost. On October 5th, 2019, they signed a cease fire. Other things of note: -Germany allied with Spain -Denmark allied with Hungary -Japan allied with Ukraine, meaning they are now allied with Russia by proxy -Greece allied with Germany -Latvia allied with Moldova -Colombia allied with Liberia -The USA, India, Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Oman, Papau New Guinea, Phillippines, Singapore, Slovakia, Australia, Mexico, Albania, Belarus and about a dozen other random ass countries researched missile defense. -Slovakia declared war on the UAE -_- Can someone seriously educate these people that they can't go to war with nations they can't a) physically reach b) physically occupy or c) even compete with? The war is still "on" as much as India being a smoldering crater and the ocean being filled with scrap metal and blood can be described as "on". It just isn't officially over yet. And after all that, the US still has the #1 navy. I'll just let that all sink in. |
Well, it seems like the programmer of this game has some secret Neocon ties. Wouldn't be surprised to learn Dick Cheney had a hand in Superpower 2's creation process.
Still, it seems like your empire's crumbling a bit at the scenes -- it looks increasingly spread out and piecemeal. I wish instead of spreading out on so many regions, we could concentrate on solidifying power in just one region and ensure we kept opposing forces out. As is, it just seems like trying to hold all your possessions has resulted to all of them being equally vulnerable. To me, Venezula's close proximity to the United States (a close ally at this juncture that you do not, Neocon jokes aside, want to fuck around with right now) makes South America the least attractive region. Not that it seems like this game follows actual real-world political strategies, but allowing historical realism to seep through, we shouldn't portray ourselves as a threat to the U.S' beloved Monroe Doctrine. Besides, I imagine South America is the most distant territory to latch onto. I prefer a North Africa strategy. Our meddling in North African regions seems to offend other countries the least, it's furthest from United States possessions, it's closest to the Netherlands, African countries can be gradually picked off with minimal casualties, and we can develop what we conquer. (Note: I've never actually played Superpower 2, so forgive me if all my assumptions are completely and utterly wrong.) In the end it's not my choice, but that's my two cents on the matter. If we slowly but surely built up Northern Africa to be an impenetrable fortress, we'd have an ideal staging ground for a double-pronged invasion of Mediterranean Europe, and the United States would be too busy worrying about enforcing its territory in Iraq and India to give a damn. Can we trade territories for favors / increased relations / alliances? If so I'd consider outright "giving" the United States Venezuelan and/or maybe even Saudi Arabian territories in exchange for tons of financial and diplomatic support. At this point being the U.S.' lapdog may not be such a bad thing -- the apprentice can eventually betray the master, but for now, playing Darth Vader to the United States' Emperor would at least make for an exciting experience (and who the hell is going to fuck with the Netherlands if the threat of war against the U.S. runs implicit?) |
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Um...World War 3 anyone?
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Once we have the regions under our control, it really wouldn't take much giving to get people back on our side. I estimate we can get three, maybe four countries allied with us for those regions. And if we're lucky, some debt assumption. I've also drastically increased our foreign aid to get our relations going in the right direction again. We managed to get out of the war, but the U.S. is still formally engaged. [Edit] Quote:
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Although the question arises of how in hell are we going to become a power comparable to the US and still be on their good side.
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I didn't pay that close attention to the map, but the ABC (Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao) and SSS (Saba, St. Maarten (think this was the one that's half french), St. Eustatius) islands aren't part of the state? (or are they too insignificant to be on the world map xP)
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Though, it's not like they actually contribute to much of the Netherlands' worth. Perhaps in the drugs-supply chain we've got going, but beyond that? :P |
How do we look imports/exports-wise? In order to gain some ground in that Sweden/Finland alliance, I'd propose maybe a free-trade deal with them since they are close and it won't cost us much to ship crap to them. Since we got booted from NATO, I'm willing to be a little vindictive and up the tariffs on their goods a bit to cover the loss.
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I agree with everyone else that we to consolidate what we hold right now and then start plotting again. Hopefully by that time our favorability rating should have edged back up with everyone else. |
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In the meantime, however, the comment I've quoted has conjured another idea in my mind for a potential strategy: could we utilize covert operations to keep the United States in this conflict, forcing them to steadily drain resources and spread out into disparate territory? This would gradually weaken the United States and siphon its ability to deploy military forces elsewhere. We should consider using faked terrorist attacks to prevent any possibility of a ceasefire agreement anytime soon, while encouraging the US to take faroff territories. One idea, for example, would be to fake a New Zealand terrorist attack on the US, just to force the US to declare war on New Zealand, invade one of the furthest, isolated countries on the map, and station military forces there. |
New Zealand? The land of Lord of the Rings and Flight of the Concords? Nuuuuuu.
In seriousness, that could be feasible, but aht about Australia and Oceania region. They are still relatively close. |
In regards to giving up our territories in other places: Hell no. I'm not sure what strategy you're pushing right now, but if it's oil then you really, really want to hold on to Saudi Arabia. You can give them our South American holdings if you must (if we ever get around to annexing them), but I'd recommend to keep and consolidate what we have. It's not worth much, but as far as staging areas go, it'll be invaluable later. Admittedly, what we hold of India might be worth quite a lot, should we gift-wrap it and present it to the nato, so that could be one option. Alternately, could we give what we own of the Indian main land back to India, in return for whatever parts of Africa they took?
The problem with getting the US involved in more wars is that it probably wouldn't hurt them too much, while giving them more and more territory. Yes, it'll be draining to hold that territory, and it'll weaken them, but it then belongs to THEM. Meaning that eventually, we'll have a map where every country is either highly developed or belongs to the US. Maybe not that drastic, but my point is that our strategy consists of picking off smaller, valuable countries off 1-by-1, and it'd be mildly annoying to have the US get there before us, so to speak. Besides, I thought we needed our covert forces to focus on taking the rest of the African West Coast? We can go for North Africa afterwards, but I don't think they're very resource-rich, and Europe might get anxious if we were to turn our attention there. I agree to the Free-trade-area with Sweden and Finland, though it'll get in the way of us taking them and their oil later. So, to sum it all up: 1: Consolidate 2: Focus covert, diplomatic, economic and military resources on taking the rest of Western African coast. 3: Use leverage which we'll hopefully have to clear the way for taking the rest of the middle east. But that's what I've been preaching for a while now... -.- How's our military? What casualties did we take? |
Are there means to weaken the USA, without taking a huge risk of them squashing us like bugs, or them recreating a British Empire-size emperium? Preferably weakened to the point that they can be conquered by a coalition of other nations.
Because, well, being a lapdog is sort of safe at the start, i guess, but that doesn't mean we should stop aiming to be more important than we are now. Other point, do Sweden and Finland have oil as well? Thought that was a Norwegian thing. |
Just out of curiosity, what have you done with your interest rates during this entire 20 year time period?
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The USA finally signed a cease fire and ended this bloody war, but not without first watching with disdain as India produced a single patrol boat... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ary/sp61-1.jpg ...which was promptly destroyed. I began the process of rebuilding and managing our tattered nation, leading me to the resource screen where I noticed something odd. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ary/sp60-1.jpg Our people were hopelessly addicted to tobacco, yet we weren't importing or producing any of it. It was costing us $1.5 billion in, what I can only assume to be rehab sessions...or Nicoret. I remedied the situation by making all tobacco products illegal until we can find a proper source of...tobacco products. But you can still smoke a doobie! We're one of the leading producers of them! I tried some practice saves where I annexed each territory we owned and saw what their effect on our economy and world relations was. If we annex India, our economy goes virtually bankrupt, so I would recommend either signing a free region treaty, or using that as primarily a staging area. We can safely annex Venezuela, the third of the UAE we own, and the center third of Saudi Arabia. These three combined cut our deficit in half and it continues to fall, we are still only at 100% resources (we could go up higher, when I took over the world I had something like 9875525642385%, I was making bank), but at least I'm not getting warnings anymore every couple minutes saying that I might lose the game at any second because my spending is out of control. We are also friendly with NATO again, though not nearly enough to re-enter, I doubt we'll ever be able to do that. Half of Africa and Asia hate our guts, but they won't bother us for now. |
Nice! In that case, I say we do what you've already done and Annex Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and UAE.
I know we shouldn't even be thinking of military endeavors yet, but what's the situation of the nations on the African West Coast, down to Nigeria? Just whether we could beat them (in sequence)? Unless we're excessively desperate, I wouldn't use any of the game-breaking you've mentioned... Oh, and where are our covert forces engaged? How did we manage 1 trillion in debt? Even over 23 years, that's a bit much for a nation like us... Then again, we conquer across oceans, so whatever. I don't know what financial advice to give you... I'm not sure of the situation. |
Keep tobacco Illegal. We gotta some how trim that debt.
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Perhaps skyrocket the tobacco tax? Just enough to reduce consumption to what we get from Venezuela?
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Reduce income taxes by 3%. people love reductions in taxes! Alternatively, you could also decrease the interest rate. People love lower interest rates. It allows them to buy new homes!
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January 1, 2028
What other way to celebrate the new year than with some war! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp75.jpg Yup, they're at it again. This time with Zimbabwe and their 34 allies, including Russia and Pakistan. All of this was just another attempt for the U.S. to show off its naval superiority one more time against anyone with something that still floats. The war wasn't much of a contest and hey is that a nuclear sub? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp76.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp77.jpg The U.S. and Russia played chicken with their subs for honestly, like, three years straight. The entire war was "U.S. moves fleet to South America, Russia moves fleet to India, U.S. moves fleet to India, Russia moves fleet to South America, over and over and over and over...they could never reach a point simultaneously so the war ended with only saber rattling between the two powers. Unfortunately, the business never got out of control. http://www.sonyinsider.com/wp-conten...toctober_4.jpg "One ping please." I did get a lot done in terms of treaties though. We got new economic partnerships with Ireland, Hungary, Finland, Sweden, Germany, Spain, and the UK. We even nailed common markets with France, Italy, Canada, Greece, and Hungary. So I guess we're back in business. I also lowered the tax rate by 3% as suggested and released India back to India because it was honestly worth nothing to us. And I annexed Mauritania, which really didn't do much of anything. Just gave us a new military playground. Out of our next possible targets I say we go for the Congo. Highest concentration of resources, easiest match for us. |
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Congo, fair enough. As long as we get around to Nigeria eventually.
Is 3% really gonna make that much of an impact, considering that we're at 90% income tax? |
Military recovery I haven't even started yet because we have no money to support one. The one we have right now is enough to take the Congo, maybe after we get some income from there we can rebuild our forces.
We'll get to Nigeria, but right now they would squish us. And I only did 3% because that's what B_real said, and it did actually give us 1 percentage point on our approval rating. Just to mess around I tried lowering it down to 30%. The game immediately ended and claimed we fell into economic ruin. So...yeah, keeping it up there for a while. |
I may be overreacting regarding your debt load, but I'm honestly worried enough that I may encourage you simply to consider backing off from invasions entirely and concentrating exclusively on righting that ship. If invading the Congo severs additional trade agreements, alliances or other diplomatic relationships, we'd just be digging ourselves a bigger grave. Now that Mauritania is a part of our empire, improving their lagging infrastructure and education so their citizens can work better jobs and pay extra taxes may help.
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That might not be a bad idea, actually. I mean, elements of our empire can function without draining us financially (e.g. covert), and now that we have some resources at our disposal we possibly could work off that load. Snake's right, 1 trillion does seem a bit much, and 90% income tax must be screwing our economy so hard, its small intestine should be running out of its ears right now.
Assuming a 10-year time-frame, if we stopped any offensive military activity, how much money could we stick into lowering that debt and decreasing our income tax? Complete military abstinence, minimize spending. Then maybe follow that up with a 5-year stint wherein we build up the infrastructure of conquered regions. Of course, the resources we'd get out of conquering Congo might make that 10-year period even more fruitfull |
Agreed on the military part. Maintain enough to be able to defend ourselves for now, make some popcorn, and just watch the world go to hell in a handbasket.
And be ready to swoop in to gather the spoils. :D |
May 26, 2029
Our attempt at economic recovery continues. After some minor bickering and smoke-filled backroom deals, we finally got a common market with Ireland, Denmark, and Poland, the three closest friends we have right now and our best shot at allies. Along with that I secured economic partnerships with Germany, Spain, UK, Poland, and Denmark. And...would you look at that... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...cenary/aid.jpg The Brits loosened their belts a little bit and threw some money our way. Due to our good behavior (not invading anyone) they have agreed to pay for 10% of our resource consumption, slowing our decline into economic oblivion. On that topic, we are still in a nosedive. And I have no idea what's causing it. I tried something called the "global tax modificator (not a typo)" which applies a tax to all resource exports. It's another known exploit to set this to 100%. I tried it and it took us from a deficit of $98 billion to a surplus of $117 billion. That only lasted for so long though, as we quickly lost all of its effects and our budget once again dropped into the red. I am at a loss. I've tried increasing the tax rate, decreasing it, increasing/decreasing the interest rate, going through every resource manually and screwing with their tax rates... We are losing 1% of our population per year due to the laws I have in place. You would think that would cut costs. Some have suggested decreasing spending in different areas of the budget window (see the second post I made). I'm afraid to do that because decreasing spending in any of those will only lead to bad results. No government or infrastructure means no stability and massive corruption. No education means no jobs. No environment means no resources. We only lower those sliders when we are absolutely on the verge of going bankrupt. The only solution I can see working is...invading someone. I tried the Congo, but I think 30-something countries ended up kicking our ass. We need to do something drastic, therefore I turn to you, my think tank. |
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Did somebody say... "we require drastic action"? You said that, didn't you? You're actually asking me for ideas pertaining to economic strategy and world domination that are so crazy that they just might work? Yessss... Mr. President, we will not disappoint you. Our progress in this world of weak alliances and petty skirmishes has been slow, faltering. No longer. Our ambitions have been hidden, our plans subtle. No longer. The world will rue the day they allowed the Netherlands to be backed into a corner. Gentlemen, we're at an economic breaking point, have minimal military forces and are about as unpopular as is possible. Let's take over the world. First proposal: Pull everything out of our African and South American properties, form a Coalition with the US and take over the Middle East. They'll be doing all the fighting, of course, but I'm sure we can get some oil-rich regions. I have a hunch that whatever we're spending on infrastructure in our properties could be screwing us over, but I don't know. Could we get a full economic breakdown of our situation? Second proposal: Get together with Sweden and Finland to take Norway. They're close, they're developed, and if we use covert right we can not only justify our attack, but get them kicked out of the Nato before we do. Not sure what else to do. Gimme the data, then we'll see. |
It is a little difficult to make any decisions, because we don't have the game ourselves. it could be something that you don't even notice, and if that's the case, then you aren't able to tell us that factoid for us to realize to fix it.
Regardless, for getting out of debt, I have a few ideas. First, are armies are mainly mercenary, right? We're not paying them annually, are we? because that could be a drain on the economy. We might as well strip ourselves of a few of them, only for the time being anyway. Second, we need much more exports and much less imports. I think you've said that we're already basically this (I think you said we were self-sufficient?) nut if we can push it that much farther, it might do something. Raise the prices on the oil we're selling, just a tad. Really, we need to look at where all our money is presently going to, and cutting as much of that away as possible, and then make as much money as we can. can we get an updated look at our budget, in case it's different from the last time we saw it whenever ago? Oh, last thing. the more trade aggreements with people, the better. eventually, we could get to the point where everyone who isn't sending money through us will be doing far worse off. Then, you can severe ties with a chosen country (justify it with terrorism), do our little dance, and then Muaratania the heck out of it. That's one idea to reaching power, anyway. An abundance of wealth. |
January 11, 2030
I found the problem! And it was much much easier to fix than I thought it would be. First, I'll tell you what I tried (also why it took so long for me to get this post up). Sorry if I don't address everyone's posted suggestions. I outlawed abortion, contraception, and anything else that would inhibit our people from churning out babies. That just made the problem worse. I got new common markets with Russia, Ukraine, Portugal, the US and a few others. I also added on economic partnerships to some of those. All in all the treaties gave us a modest increase in resource production, but we were still losing cash at an alarming rate. I tried dropping every one of our budget sliders to zero so I could have enough of a surplus to lower the tax and interest rates to try to stimulate the economy that way. That, in a word, sucked. For each of these I let the game progress several years into the future. When I found that absolutely nothing I tried worked, I got desperate and looked over our territories. A last ditch effort would have to be made to stop the bleeding and make at least some of our debt back. This effort would be in the form of selling regions. In doing so I found the issue. Ladies and gentlemen our problems resided in a malignant tumor known as the United Arab Emirates. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp90.jpg Since they were the smallest regions we owned I decided to gain some clout with the Americans and sell them off cheap, at just $300 billion a piece. At first I tried for more, but it was a hard sell. The Americans agreed and our debt was immediately cut from $1.6 trillion to a more manageable $700 billion. Then I noticed something else. Our deficit had gone from nearly $102 billion, down to $15 billion, and dropping. The upkeep of those three tiny regions must have been so damn high that it was sucking nearly $100 billion out of our treasury a month to support their environment, education, infrastructure...everything. With just a little tweaking of the budget, and maybe some taxes applied to some resources (oil) we'll be back into a surplus and ready to rebuild our military. In other news, Venezuela continues to get hit with terrorism and assassinations almost on a daily basis. What remains of them anyway, the coast that Japan is occupying. And here is the current economic situation as requested: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp91.jpg After the selloff, our relations with the United States skyrocketed. At which point I saw it logical to take this next course of action. I hope you're all happy. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp92.jpg |
Well, from what I've seen (Dubai), UAE IS an expensive place....so it does make sense..
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I do not like it at all good sir. Great empires can only be forged in the fires of adversity and conflict, not the gentle winds of peace.
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Yeah, go ahead and declare war on the United States. See how long we last. =P
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Yeah...no. Especially since they just assumed our debt.
:) Yup, we're officially out of debt and making money now! I'm working on some new designs for our army units as we speak. Also, I put our covert ops on vacation to save some cash for the time being. |
December 5, 2031
Our economy is booming right now. We have money coming out our ears. I have increased all our important budget sliders back to max for now. At this rate we'll be able to build our African invasion force in just about two-three years if we get the blueprints right. I also opened our borders and changed number of children per family to unlimited. Now, just as long as our new ally doesn't do anything stu... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp94.jpg God damnit. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp95.jpg Here we go again. They wasted no time in assaulting South America's newly built navies and sending them all to the bottom of the ocean. Russia once again began it's pursuit, but the war (like the last one) stayed exclusively to the ocean. In its midst, China also declared war on Venezuela, bombarding an area occupied by Japan, which shouldn't bode well for the future. Also, -South Korea allied with Japan -Chile allied with Colombia and Liberia, I'm assuming to support their drug trade -Belgium allied with Denmark This is shaping up to be quite the showdoAUGH I'M HIT! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enary/sp96.jpg I guess maybe aligning ourselves with an aggresively suicidal country wasn't such a good idea. We have also taken a failed assassination attempt from Tuvalu and the Central African Republic, and failed sabotages from Guinea in which we caught the saboteurs. They are now being probed for information...with extreme prejudice. This is getting pretty heated, and if it continues like it did with the UAE and Venezuela, we have a whole mess of terrorism attempts about to come at us. And maybe even war. My honest suggestion, and we do have the money to do this, would be to begin researching nuclear weapons and developing our missiles. No one would attack us because they would have to face the U.S., and when our missiles are done they wouldn't touch us. Unless you favor first building up our conventional forces. |
Wouldn't that make us hated by the world though getting nukes?
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Who needs conventional forces when you've got the US as your ally? Nukes and missiles!
Also, if we're going to take all of Africa I suggest we start with Egypt. EDIT: Quote:
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I think we should use our covert forces to deliberately goad China and Japan into war with each other. If China and Japan got many allies into both sides of the conflict, and if we stayed neutral in the massive cataclysmic warfare that ensued, we'd be in an ideal position to pick up the pieces.
In the meantime, I'm still a fan of Operation: transform West Africa into South Amsterdam. |
Today is a glorious day for our military, because today we roll out the next generation of ground units, aircraft, and naval vessels that our great nation has been so deprived of. The lineup includes:
-Geminex-I Infantry Vehicle -TEV-I Tank -Sifright-I Artillery Gun -Dracorian Attack Helicopter -MAC-I Fighter Aircraft -HAWK-I Attack Aircraft -Solid Snake Frigate -Pillar of Oster Destroyer -Gregness Aircraft Carrier -Pinkleton Class Attack Submarine -Flarecobra Ballistic Missile Submarine |
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Edit: first thing, WOOT an aircraft carrier!
Speaking of the economy, I know you said we're booming right now but I wonder if we still need so much spending into propaganda. I know we needed it back when we were actively expanding, but now that we're consolidating and the economy is churning maybe that's a place we can save some money. Also, is our popular support rating broken down by region? That is, can we see hoe popular we are in venezuela and our african holdings to see how well the assimilation is progressing? I'd recommend we not do any expanding until we're sure we won't be facing some sort of insurrection (do they even have those in this?). |
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They do have insurrections, believe it or not. But, they can only happen if both your approval and stability are in the absolute tank. It never says you were overthrown, the game just kinda ends as if you had just lost an election. There is no breakdown per region. The approval rating is just an overall sort of thing. [Edit] I think it's worth developing nukes because the game operates it like a secret weapons development program that only you know about until the first one goes off. |
Fuck yeah, Pinkleton Class Attack Submarine. I find it oddly fitting that I'm playing a 4e gnome who has his own sub. :)
Anywho, since you're already spending the max on stuff, I agree with idea of making people fight each other. Also, is there any defense against covert ops on our country? Because we'll need more of it, it sounds like. So, stick with America, maybe not in fighting, but support them. Develop at least one nuke. Make China and Japan fight. Destabilize more of Africa and invade. |
Anyone else find the irony in naming someone who's usually assocated with fire to a ship that travels under the water? :P
Anyway, force sizes? And I suggest getting Russia to attack China. See how that develops. |
August, 2032
The U.S. signs a cease fire with Zimbabwe. But...well...you know them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nary/sp100.jpg Another day another war. Odd timing on this one though. They stormed the beaches of Yemen and obliterated their defenses. This time Russia's navy did catch up to their's and managed to cut them in half before being completely destroyed themselves. Yet, the U.S. still retained the #1 navy in the world. But, this time the Russians also took the ground war to them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nary/sp101.jpg Russia's entire armed forces swooped down and demolished what was left of the U.S. forces from the previous wars. It was pathetic. Thankfully it stopped there and the American national guard in California was left alive. On October 13, 2032, they signed a cease fire. Soon afterwards, China ended their war with Venezuela. And there was peace once again. Well...for now. I have been hard at work on our invasion forces. After mixing in some mid-range units with our new pimped out models, we now have the #7 ranked military in the world. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nary/sp102.jpg I also tried researching nukes, but that must wait until another day. It seems to be hit or miss whether the world will care or not. Our troops are all prepped for their next mission, the only thing left is to pick a target. The Japan vs. China thing might not be as good an idea as you think. China has no allies and the only allies Japan has are South Korea and Ukraine. Maybe you could get Russia in the mix if you get China to hit Ukraine directly, but I'd rather just continue our conquest for now. [Edit] Russia vs China might be doable. |
The Ministry of Really Bad Ideas is not feeling the love
Once the nuclear program is developed can you use covert actions to set off nukes in opposing countries and pin the blame elsewhere?
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Time to get our grunts asses into gear. 24th ranked? Needs Moar Training!
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I just wanna say that I totally called that it was infrastructure spending in our overseas properties that was screwing us over.
... Well, ok, really all I said was that we should commit suicide by invading Norway, but in the process I totally mentioned infrastructure spending! Pettiness aside, I like these developments. US is always a good ally, and our army's really growing nicely! Though I must object to one development. *puts on sunglasses* Mr. President, you... disappoint me. An infantry vehicle? An armored support vehicle for the weakest branch of our military? I am... hurt. Wounded. Not by the insult, but rather because you seem to have learned... nothing. All this mentoring, all this advice, all this effort to instill some wisdom into you? For nought, apparently. For this decision, Mr. President... *takes off sunglasses* was without a doubt, most... unwise. Ahem. As for what to do... I guess continue with our efforts to take over the world's oil supply. Africa first, then the middle east. You know, eventually we're gonna have to take out the US. Either that or get their oil-rich properties from them. ... Tell me, how large is our most valued ally's army? And is there any way to disable its nuclear forces using covert strikes? Should the answers to these questions be "too large" and "no" (which they probably are), never mind and instead tell me how much longer a string of covert operations to decrease Africa's popularity with the rest of the world and let us invade without getting slaughtered by an international coalition would take. I wouldn't care too much, but once we've got Africa it'd be best to be able to move on to the middle east immedeatly. Though wait a minute. If we invade western africa, is there a way to get their oil and resources, but not have to pay infrastructure? |
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If we invaded it's possible we could take a few states, but we would lose our navy and it's 50-50 whether the world would hate us for it (as we're attacking a direct ally) or love us for it (as the U.S. has been a complete douche). |
I approve most strongly of these recent changes.
Doesn't our treaty let us position troops on each other's territory? Couldn't we just disperse our troops across their country, break alliance and take every state except for Hawaii? Of course, that'd still leave the Navy. Could we get some allies in this operation? Who else has a big navy? Of course, all this is highly hypothetical. We can wipe out our closest ally later... for now, let's concentrate on Africa, get ourselves some more resources and oil. |
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Your idea has been summarily rejected from our war plan. I highly suggest we trudge on into Africa. We can take basically anyone we want, though after some light terrorism. [Edit] I name a nuclear bomb after you and the best you can give me is a fatal error? |
How was I supposed to know how neoconservative that game is? Does this happen every time the US seems to be losing, or only if you come close to victory through liberal use of brilliant deception?
Besides, all that was only idle musing. We both knew it was too good to be true. I'm Africa all the way. Though with our 6th ranked, awesomely named military, do we need to limit ourselves to the west coast? Or could we take some of the more productive central regions as well? How's the terrorism going, by the way? |
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The decision we have to make is, do we do this slowly? Terrorising small nations and gradually taking the entire continent? Or do we go Final Solution on their asses and bulldoze through all at once? We have the capacity to support a pretty large war right now. |
Either way I want us in control of all the diamond-rich African nations.
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