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Dracorion 05-24-2010 11:27 PM

Gah. Stop making me want to read the Spoilers section of the book, PF.

Geminex 05-24-2010 11:28 PM

Oh, that's what you mean.

Well, his primary goal, right now, is to get his body back. Help him with that, he'll help you. And if you do manage to recondition him in the course of his service, one way or another, he'd be one hell of an asset.

As for being hard to terminate, fair enough. But that applies to pretty much every combat specialist you employ.

Krylo 05-24-2010 11:31 PM

Hey guys, sane backgrounds aren't that hard. See watch.

29 years ago (that's 19 BF) two scrubs bumped ugly. They were lower middle-class, which is to say poor, because the pre-fall era was really shitty for folks that weren't the top 1% or what ever. They did ok for themselves though.

That is until world war broke up when he was still pretty young and then robot death machines. His parents died, he escaped off world getting infected by the Watts MacLeod strain of the exsurgent virus on the way--not that he knew what that was at the time.

Went a little crazy as a result, and then told the hypercorps they could collectively fuck off before fleeing to the outer systems because, to him, they were no different/better than the old governments which had left his family in poverty and failed to provide the security they promised in exchange--his parents being dead and all.

Some point shortly after he ended up on a scum barge. The end.

Aerozord 05-24-2010 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex (Post 1043720)
Oh, that's what you mean.

Well, his primary goal, right now, is to get his body back. Help him with that, he'll help you.

that doesn't really work on keeping him in line when the opposition can also get him a body, and probably with greater ease

PhoenixFlame 05-24-2010 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex (Post 1043720)
As for being hard to terminate, fair enough. But that applies to pretty much every combat specialist you employ.

That's a very confident appraisal.

Geminex 05-24-2010 11:37 PM

@Krylo: Booooooooring. Where's the incredibly convenient coincidences, or the implausible decision-making?

@Aero: He doesn't want a body. He was re-sleeved into a ghost when he was 18, and, while the ghost was constantly renewed and updated, it was always the same ghost. He was good at infiltration, so he managed to survive 30 years' worth of missions, and he got quite attatched to that body.

Subconciously, the calm efficiency of the ghost also prevented him from feeling too human, it was sort of a barrier.

Anyway, yeah. He doesn't want a morph. He wants the morph, his old one (if only for the optimized implants). And I doubt anyone but firewall could help him with that.

Krylo 05-24-2010 11:38 PM

I'd suggest the tech specialists would actually be harder to terminate than the combat specialists.

Killing people in Eclipse Phase isn't hard, no matter how good they are. The hard part is making sure they stay dead, which is to say hunting down all of their back ups and erasing them. A computer/tech person is more likely to have sufficiently faked their ego id hard enough to have a back up of themselves that slips through the cracks.

Also it's the infiltration specialization that makes him a 'difficult to erase individual'. It's not the killing him, it's the finding him.

Overcast 05-24-2010 11:42 PM

Yeah, but look at Daniel. Aside from the fact I said he might just upload the adventures(which he won't if you tell him so) he is a relatively reliable human being who will serve to get a bit closer to immortality, or for an original data file for the old album Deadringer by RJD2, or for money, or for the promise that down the road if he asks for something you'll do it for him

He isn't much of a risk factor in comparison.

Background for amusement. Born on Earth, lived up to the ripe age of 100 to barely see the first steps to immortality begin. He was able to survive just long enough to catch the singularity and pull himself down year by year till it was like he was 18 again. Of course while the good times were good he eventually became one of many to end up in the Fall.

And he didn't make it. Not perfectly anyway.

Eventually a group of reclaimers up and rescued him, but they couldn't afford to resleeve him so they sold him off where an unknown party put him back together again with a brand new Remade body and edited memories.

He has no idea who they are.

All he knows was he was sent out into the universe with nothing and had to fight his way up the food chain until he got to where he is now. Well connected with a few groups that help make his life easier when he needs it to be, enough modifications to make death difficult, gear for nearly any situation, a dead eye with his guns, and his dreams.

Now he drifts, not so interested in the troubles of others, but more in his own personal wants and needs.

PhoenixFlame 05-24-2010 11:45 PM

^- See, that guy is certifiable. He can be a bit eccentric (Uploading XPs) but those aren't hard to find and cause to "disappear" before slapping him on the wrist and requesting that he let us go through and censor the classified bits before making a popular X-cast out of them.

Which is perfectly fine, but change the names to protect the innocent.

Otherwise, yes, you can trust us better if we can trust you.

Geminex 05-24-2010 11:45 PM

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Also it's the infiltration specialization that makes him a 'difficult to erase individual'. It's not the killing him, it's the finding him.
Exactly. Initially I was going to protest that, as long as you know where he is and what he's doing, you can kill him with an assault rifle.
But the problem is that, if you have motivation to kill him (i.e. if he goes rogue), he won't be where you expect him to be, and it'll be hard to find where he is, certainly hard to track him physically. Digitally is another matter, but he'd be careful.

So he would be difficult to terminate, if not to kill. And with the high rep he has, he could probably find a place to store a backup or two. Also, depending on how many CP we get in the course of the mission, I'm thinking of giving him at least rudimentary computer skills.

Edit: Oh, and Krylo, was my CP allocation ok? I don't think I gave him too many, but it was late when I checked. I might've mis-counted.


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