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ThatPoorMessenger 06-04-2010 03:20 PM

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and could sacrifice your family to the forces of evil in the second, so there's that.
It got you one of the best weapons in the game, however.

Kim 06-04-2010 03:26 PM

I want you to go ahead and compare the ratio of games that have pointless, crammed in sex scenes to the ratio of movies that have pointless, crammed in sex scenes and call me in the morning.

Krylo 06-04-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatPoorMessenger (Post 1048160)

Not really. Maelstrom was pretty much shit because all the story enemies you had to fight were evil aligned.

Edit: LOOKED awesome, though.

ThatPoorMessenger 06-04-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Krylo (Post 1048162)
Not really. Maelstrom was pretty much shit because all the story enemies you had to fight were evil aligned.

Edit: LOOKED awesome, though.

If you were being evil, you were often killing good. In context of playstyle, it was damned powerful.

Krylo 06-04-2010 03:37 PM

Except killing good got you nothing of value. The only actual good characters that you'd ever end up fighting were civilians and guards. There were very very few quests--even evil ones--that resulted in killing guards instead of more evil characters (hobs, balverines, bandits, undead, all the spire enemies...).

So the only thing it was really good for was going on a slaughter fest through cities, , which just left you disadvantaged as you couldn't go back to town for hours or days or whatever without killing everyone

Rising Sun was almost always more useful.

I mostly just used Maelstrom as decoration on my evil gunslinging character that never pulled out the sword, anyway.

Edit: They should have just made it do extra damage to humans or something like that. That would have been useful.

ThatPoorMessenger 06-04-2010 03:49 PM

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Edit: They should have just made it do extra damage to humans or something like that. That would have been useful.
Indeed, although I don't wish to enter another derailment, I did find Fable 1 more fun than 2, whilst it's on my mind.

Nique 06-06-2010 03:38 PM

Didn't get a chance to reply to this before the thread exploded -

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Originally Posted by Seil
What do you mean "a statement of moral judgment?" If sex fits into the story and works well with how the game plays out, then sure. Work it in. Even something to leave the fans wondering. But if you want to put it in and set it to porno music, exercise your judgment, not your wrist.

I meant that my calling that specific scene 'pornography' (which I feel it basically is, along with similar instances in other games like GTA, or God of War) was not a statement of moral judgement, since everyone here pretty much knows what I think about pornography anyway and that isn't what the thread is about. It was more about the quality of the writing in these games when handling this kind of subject matter. They don't seem to serve any paticular plot point, seems like they are there only to titilate. It's inclusion in the story becomes secondary to exciting the player/viewer in an almost exclusivly sexual way, i.e. pornography.

So, if you're playing 'Bubble Bath Babes' or 'DOA: Beach Volleyball', scenes like that aren't out of place - You are playing the video game equivilant of a porno. If you're playing a plot-heavy game that at least makes attempts at higher concepts, and it suddenly switches gears and becomes about bangin' the hot chick, it's just bad writing.

Kim 06-06-2010 03:46 PM

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God of War
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If you're playing a plot-heavy game that at least makes attempts at higher concepts
lol?

krogothwolf 06-06-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NonCon (Post 1048710)
lol?

God of War had a plot, it was the reason Kratos was yelling Zeus!!!!!! I just don't remember why he was yelling it.

Krylo 06-06-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nique (Post 1048705)
If you're playing a plot-heavy game that at least makes attempts at higher concepts, and it suddenly switches gears and becomes about bangin' the hot chick, it's just bad writing.

And if 'bangin' the hot chick', as you so eloquently put it, comes only at the end of a slowly built relationship spanning the majority of the game, and allows you insights into the 'hot chick's personality and character that you would otherwise be unable to attain?

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Originally Posted by NonCon (Post 1048710)
lol?

I don't think he was calling God of War plot heavy.
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Originally Posted by krogothwolf (Post 1048718)
God of War had a plot, it was the reason Kratos was yelling Zeus!!!!!! I just don't remember why he was yelling it.

It's 'cause Zeus stabbed him with the Blade of Olympus and stripped him of his godhood.


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