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Roland 10-24-2010 02:09 PM

Welp, guess I'm not a Metroid fan. (Metroid: Other M related)
 
Ridiculous topic title is ridiculous, but I can't help feeling that it's going to be true by the time the next Metroid title is announced/developed/released.

The main thing I wanted to bring up was this article that's recently come to my attention.

It talks about the whole Samus/Adam dynamic in Metroid: Other M. There's really nothing there that I can quote by itself without taking it out of context. Even this:

Quote:

If Metroid: Other M is indicative of the direction the Metroid series will be going from now on, I’m afraid I can no longer be a Metroid fan. For that matter, if Other M represents what Metroid’s creators had intended all along but hadn’t made clear until now, then I was never really a Metroid fan to begin with.
Which I have no misgivings* about completely agreeing with.

tl;dr: Roland has a lot of misgivings about Metroid: Other M, feels that a long article says it all better than he could**, and really hopes that none of this is indicative of future Metroid titles.

*In the sense that I really don't want to accept that Other M's story issues were intentional and really hope it was just the result of poor judgment rather than any real "vision" of what Metroid and Samus are all about.
**Which says more about my inability to put my thoughts into words than anything else, I hope.

BitVyper 10-24-2010 02:14 PM

It only invalidates your experiences with the previous games if you let it, and if you let it, well that's just kind of silly.

Archbio 10-24-2010 03:29 PM

It's almost like the stand-in character for the player in Other M isn't Samus at all but this (incidentally I'm sure) male character who dominates and drives Samus throughout the story.

Today, the part of Samus Aran will be played by Zoe Barnes. thebabythebabythebabythebaby

Magus 10-24-2010 09:55 PM

It was made by the Ninja Gaiden guy. I wouldn't find it particularly indicative of some secret nefarious sexist nature of Metroid series overall...I understand it had the same writer (or is he merely a producer-type?) but why hadn't his "true colors" shown through until he was stuck with Iga? Was it just because of the emphasis on dialogue in this one? Or was Team Ninja pushing their agenda?

EDIT: Basically I'm saying that giving up on the entire Metroid series because of one bad game makes little sense. It would be like giving up on any other long-ass series and all its future installments just because they put out a turd one time. It doesn't make any sense.

I didn't like Majora's Mask, for instance, it didn't mean I was never a Zelda fan or that I would never be one again.

bluestarultor 10-24-2010 10:07 PM

For that matter, I hate FF12, but I think the rest of the series is just aces (that exists. I have no idea why they jumped all the way from 10 to 12 with only a direct sequel to 10 in between. :3:).

Kyanbu The Legend 10-24-2010 10:36 PM

Welcome to the life of a Sonic Fan.

Seriously though speaking from my experiences. A series has to produce several bad titles, one after another. To be considered doomed.

True it only took one bad game to ruin Sonic (Sonic Cycle is rampant), Megaman X (franchise was even canceled up till about a few years ago or recently), Pac Man (not 100% sure on this one), Final Fantasy (arguably it's not exactly ruined but it lost some respect gameplay wise in the eyes of quite a few fans), ect.

But that doesn't mean it will always happen. KH 358/2 may be the only bad KH game the series ever had. And that's arguable considering the mixed reviews I've read on it. Birth By Sleep is seen as pretty decent by most reviews (gameplay wise). Sonic's on the road to recovery, and Megaman X9 seems very likely to happen and be a homage to the old SNES X games. FF 14 and Versus 13 are looking to be great titles.

My point is, unless the next 3+ Metroid games flop hard. It's no where near ruined just yet.

Magus 10-24-2010 10:38 PM

TBH Megaman X7 was such a travesty that if the X series had been completely destroyed by it it would have been well deserved. It is only by the grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster that it may rise like a Phoenix from the ashes.

Kim 10-24-2010 10:38 PM

No. Numbery Days is objectively awful. Any review that claims otherwise is from someone who orgasms every time Axel says "Got it memorized?"

Kyanbu The Legend 10-24-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus (Post 1082887)
TBH Megaman X7 was such a travesty that if the X series had been completely destroyed by it it would have been well deserved. It is only by the grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster that it may rise like a Phoenix from the ashes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NonCon (Post 1082888)
No. Numbery Days is objectively awful. Any review that claims otherwise is from someone who orgasms every time Axel says "Got it memorized?"

Point is, one bad game doesn't always ruin a series.

bluestarultor 10-24-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyanbu The Legend (Post 1082886)
Final Fantasy (arguably it's not exactly ruined but it lost some respect gameplay wise in the eyes of quite a few fans),

Abuh? Lost respect gameplay-wise how? The gameplay is different in every game! You don't like one, wait for the next one! If you're waiting for a repeat, you're not a fan of the series, just one of a particular game. I mean I know there are a lot of tards out there who think FF7 "is" Final Fantasy, but they're just tards. It's not even the best of the series by a long shot. :raise:


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