You really haven't. A lot of the clothing looks impractical and painted on. Form should follow function to some degree. I mean, clothes should look like clothes, right?

Your right, they should. I see what you mean.

Well it's another thing I'll work on fixing in future pics.

Even white things shouldn't be drawn as perfectly white, except where the light is most directly hitting it. Typically the main color would be a very pale shade, very close to white. As it stands Sarina mostly just looks like she's glowing. When I'm coloring the whites of someone's eyes, for instance, I use either e3e3e3 or f3f3f3 so that the highlights show up better. For instance:

http://i.imgur.com/1JvMM.png

Depending on the exact base color and circumstances, you might opt for include a slight hint of color, like blue (dfdfff), or yellow (ffffdf). Darker shades of these base colors (not to be confused with throwing a 30% opacity black brush on top) should be used for shading to further the effect.

Look at a white cat for instance. Some of them are very white and will scale down to gray in less-lit areas, but others have a more vanilla-yellow tinge to their fur instead.

Ah so I should use dimmer colors when using bright colors such as white/grey then.

Might take some getting use to at first, but I think I can do that.

And Sarina's (and the Phantomcats in gerenal) are energybeings anyway, I don't care about her/them glowing most of the time. XD Everyone else however is a problem I'm happy to now be able to fix and address.

Keep up the help guys. Faster I catch and fix problems. The sooner I can reboot "Mischief Knights" as "Mischief Knights Revise" and do it as a web noval with visuals for every act in each chapter. And the sooner I can start drawing my other webcomic "Avalice Assassin".

Drawing action: look up "line of action", knowing what they are and using them will help drawing action shots 10-fold. Basically, the 12 basic principals of animation will help you out here too. Even if the image isn't actually moving, you're still trying to depict motion and that is pretty much what animation is all about.

The comic Paranatural does a very good job with depicting action with simple characters. I'd look at some of their poses for examples.

Thanks CJ, I'll take a look at that later. Right now I'm going through some of Andrew Loomis's books for some well needed life drawing practice.

Update:
Something old I went back and finished real quick. Nothing special just a sketch. Practice stuff will be up later.

Dracula concept SK
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...ideaSketch.jpg


Also D-Resonate Chapter 0 will be up later tomorrow.


EDIT: Wow I probably should have token a better look at that. It's not quite as decent as I thought. Also just noticed that his hair line is off center. XD Ha ha ah... opps.

Some stuff that's being worked on...
 

EDIT: had to fix the first pic. I had posted the wrong version by accident.

Yes I'm practicing to rid the problems you people pointed out (ackward autonomy, lazy detail, ect). It will take time for me to get it right and re-apply it to all current and future character designs for Mischief Knights. So please do not needlessly repeat anything said in the previous page of this thread.

Thank you in advance for your patience.

Sage Profile- The Former and Current Sage of Darkness WIP
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...ateCGstock.jpg


Zero V.S Cononel WIP
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...4prototype.jpg


I'm also rewriting ALL of mischief knights. The new rewrite will be called "D-Resonate". The writing in it should be at the VERY LEAST decent. If not then well... fuck.

I plan on getting Chapter 0, Act1 out sometime later tonight or this week. Hopefully time is in my favor for a change.

Update:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...ay2012CGHQ.png


http://kyanbu.deviantart.com/art/Hap...2-CG-290855005
or
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/7600414/

I want to say that his arms are too long, but he's a leprechaun and what do I know about leprechauns? Plus, it's easier to just comment on how tightly Sarina is clutching that pot o' gold to her chest given that a violent little man is on top of it.

The colored lines are pretty ok, though. Definitely progressing in making that look good. Maybe you could work on making those lines smoother, just as a thing to work on. Like, around the fingers, you know?

No, no you're right. And I feel bad for ignoring it because he's a leprechaun and I thought "meh no one will notice/care". Though I might have been late if I had stopped to correct it... maybe.

Thank you, and I'll work on straightening out the lines more before submitting.

Haha, cool. Your picture suddenly makes me want to watch the Leperchaun movies.

Thanks.


Update:


Into The Nightmare
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...htmareCGHQ.png

http://kyanbu.deviantart.com/art/Int...e-CG-291673976
or
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/7630735/

A 30 min speed painting of "Nightmare" from "Mischief Knights Episode/Chapter 5". Just practice and nothing more. Didn't turn out quite as planned but not bad for my first attempt at speed painting.

Fun Fact: "Nightmare" might be the only villian I've made that was interesting to most of the people who've read "Mischief Knights" and lived to tell about it. XD Fitting seeing as that may have been the best chapter I've ever written so far. Really should finish it one of these days.

Episode/Chapter 5 link > : http://kyanbu.deviantart.com/art/Mis...de-5-161957003

That looks like the love child of Wizeman the Wicked (NiGHTS games) and Nightmare (Soulcaliber games).

I just can't stop being depressed when I draw
 

I've been doing some thinking...

Maybe it's time I stop pretending I'm an artist when it's more then clear that I'm not. Heck I don't even know what art is... Isn't that sad, I think it's pathetic. Besides last I check cartoon/anime is not art and never was. Least that's what I keep getting as an answer.

So could some one please change the name of this thread to "Kyanbu's Drawings and crap 2011+"? I'd greatly appreciate it. Also here's is some crap I scraped. Free Reps to anyone who can guess why they were scrapped.

Red and Vicious +Violet+ scrap
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...usVioletCG.jpg

Raiz Sonas 2012 Character Concept
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...onas2012FC.jpg

Eve Ventus
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...tuspinupFC.jpg



"There is no such thing as Freedom in Art, writing, game design, or really any form of media. Anyone who says otherwise needs to grow up and open their eyes."~ Kwame A. Fletcher a.k.a Kyanbu

And cartoons and anime styles are art. Not always GOOD art, but art.
 

There isn't?

There's plenty of freedom. You can do whatever you want, and popularity be damned. I am the proud developer of something that was dubbed #4 worst flying and racing indie game*, and I wouldn't go back and undo the development just because of that. It's still an interesting experiment to have pursued, and we were free to do it.



*Granted, the person doing the dubbing seemed ill-qualified as best, as it was some random dude making a youtube video with 100ish hits, the contents of which were just other youtube videos from other people. Even if it was a legit publishing thing though, I'd not have undone the experiment.

Congratulations on drawing a character with basically normal-sized breasts whose nipples aren't piercing their fabric.

Pretty normal, actually.

You think there's no freedom in art, you clearly haven't browsed enough of Deviant Art. Lots of weird art there.

Title changed and embellished by request and by design, respectively.

Suggestion that Kyanbu practice drawing baggy clothing.

Suggestion that Kyanbu continue drawing super tight clothes, but begin doing portraits of forum members.

Starting with Liz.

And I sure as hell can't do that
 

Wow I'm surprised I wasn't torn apart for that.

Also thanks Shiny! Since I'm not an artists, calling my stuff such just felt very, VERY wrong.

"Art is life, if you can't do life then you are not an artist." ~Kwame A. Fletcher a.k.a Kyanbu


Some of it is as strange as that may sound. But most of it isn't, they either think it is like I did or are just full of themselves.

Also no there really isn't, the very FIRST thing I got told when I went to PennyArcade Forum for Art help was "Stop drawing Catgirls Completely!!!!!!" Which basicly translated to "FUCK your dreams and D-Resonate/Mischief Knights!!" and that's coming from college grads in Digital Art/Iliustration.

With that mentality, Sensory Overload shouldn't have been made.

But it was worth making. It was an experiment in game design that me and my friend wanted to do, and, according to sales statistics, to 40 something people, it was a success.

To paraphrase Mark Rosewater: Don't try to make something that nobody will hate, make something that somebody will love.

Something that nobody will hate is bland, boring, and forgettable, even if it's liked by everyone.

Something that a bunch of people hate, but others love, is going to make an impact. The strong positive feelings are important, since they're what people remember.

It's much more preferable to have something that half of users rate a 1, and half rate a 10 (Out of 10), than something that all users rate a 5.

Except in your case you got 40 sales.

Out of the 15000+ hits Mischief Knights has gotten over 3 to 4 years (I posted it on a few forums eachs with around 3000+) I only got 1 fan. ONE fan, and he admitted to being a bit of pervert. Then there are 2 readers who arebarely insterested in it at all.

Granted the story itself was badly written and I aplogize for that but even the plot didn't impress or interest anyone beyond that 1 fan.


I thought that scraping the game project for a writtne story and comic would be a faster way to get it out but that only ruined it. I'm mean fuck if PAF hated the hell out of it and there are industry guys lurking around there along nearly thousands of viewers a day. And they saw what happen well... Yeah even if I went through with the original plan and made the game first. No one would buy it after that incident. I would be the next Sonic 06 in terms of bad PR.

sigh...

The game wasgoing to be called "D-Resonate". It was going to be a 2D open world platform RPG. It was going to be my love letter to the Castlevania and Megaman franchise, and bared homage to both series through it's mix of RPG elements and fast paced platforming. The game was also going to be split into 4 Episodes due to size and to relieve stress off of the programers and everyone that's not me.

The world itself was going to be big in size. The first area alone "Midnight Town from Mischief Knights" is roughly the size of the Castle in "Castlvania, Synphany of the Night" As I was using that as a base to determn the planed size. There are 5 or so areas per episode of the project, some roughly the same size, some smaller. While the main story missions will only take up a small part of each area's map, the rest of the extra rooms and paths would go towards exploration and side quests/events.

I was also planing on putting in a day and night/weather function but I don't think me and anyone else I can get to help me with the project would have the time to include it along with everything else.

Currently I planned to have 2 Characters playable for the first Episode, "Sarina & Queenie". With plans to add more with each new Episode (stoping at 4). Sarina was more power based and an easy character to handle for beginners while Queenie was more weaker but faster and stratagy based.

There's a lot more notes then just this but I'll get into it more if anyone shows interest. Otherwise it would be a waste to type.

Beside odds are due to well big breasts being a common thing on some of the female leads. NO one will even think of helping me (a college failure I might add) with D-Resonate much less any indi game project.














:EDIT: You know what, I'm gonna finish thoses 3 drawings... maybe... I don't know.

Clearly you need to try and get a Japanese public.

Or just find a Queen's Blade community.

Again no, considering the plot as a whole, that would be a dumb idea. This project has no fanservice outside of the pics I've drawn. Most of the busts are even off by a few cup sizes.

And last I checked my stuff is PG-13. Queens Blade is MA/R/AO on average.

Kyanbu I swear to god this forum will shame you into having confidence, somehow. Until then quit being so obnoxiously self-deprecating, it'sn ot even funny, it's grating. "Blah blah I don't make art and I'm not an artist" nevermind that the very definition of art is subjective to the viewer and at its very most base can be summed up as "different colors on some kind of canvas".

I mean yes you have one style, and that style is the three quarter profile semi-dangerous looks kind of irritated (or constipated?) irrationally large-breasted humanoid animal so it may be in your interest to y'kno branch out from that instead of just lamenting that it all sucks and you suck and sorry for exposing everyone to your suck or whatever your modus is. Tell you this much though, I'm cynical in the "blah blah kytrucker won't listen to anyone" thread for that reason, and I'm surely cynical in this one for the "blah I suck and am shamelessly digging for some kind of compassion" thing you're pulling.

I mean if you want compliments, here: you're better than I am by a mile. Here's me drawing something with tits: o>8-<

Cool????

edit: and everyone hates online writing, I doubt it's anything you should take personally. It's like trying to ask a collection of third graders and psychopaths to rate the Mona Lisa. "I dunno it sucks lol"

In case the overly hostile above concerns you I want to make it abundantly clear that I imagine you could do a lot better if you'd apply yourself to learning a variety of techniques or at least believe in yourself for two seconds out of the day. This is shiney's way of saying he thinks you're not a worthless waste of space so.

There's that.

watch out, art rant
 

Crappy ideas happen sometimes, that's why the phrase "kill your babies" exists, so you don't hold onto those crappy ideas for four years. To jump from there to "there is no freedom in art" is a big leap to make. And inaccurate. Art is completely unrestrained, even by the laws of physics(and lets not get into the specifics of this and start arguing about sculpture or something like that). If you want to make a story about magic girls who pull swords out of each other's chests and fight at the top of a structurally impossible arena in order to reach the castle that is suspended by nothing in the sky, (and then those girls later can transform into cars and race against other cars) then you can. That's the beautiful thing about art. And all of these four years, nothing stopped you from making your magical sexy catgirl adventure. What you're talking about is pleasing an audience. If you want more people than just yourself to appreciate what you're doing, then yes, you need to have some basic understanding of what makes an appealing story. Even the craziest, dumbest sounding ideas on paper can be done and done well as long as you execute it the right way. If you cook people a meal, but fail to heat it all the way through and oh yeah you threw some jellybeans into the mix and actually don't know the first thing about cooking other than it involves food, then nobody would be expected to like it just because it was made.

Take a step back and look at your work from an objective point of view. They weren't telling you to stop drawing catgirls completely because it's impossible to have a decent story/comic with catgirls, it's because you'll never learn if you don't stop doing the same thing over and over again. You can't get so closely attached to your work that you can't let it go and move onto something bigger and better. Take some classes, look up tutorials, god knows there's enough resources online, (and if I remember right, some time ago I linked you to a huge Vilppu drawing manual, which is an amazingly good resource. People spend hundreds of dollars just to learn from someone like Vilppu) If you are so passionate about making a story then learn how to make one.

Note: this rant isn't supposed to make you feel bad or give you reason to beat yourself up more. Like shiney said, you do have some skills, but you're not doing yourself any favors by clinging onto this story/art style. Let it go, explore new artistic avenues, learn, get better, and if then you still find that making Mischief Knights is your dream, then go back at it with new skills and a new mindset to make it something worth reading.


For frame of reference, you've worked on Mischief Knights for 4 years, look up Richard Williams. He worked on his masterpiece The Thief and the Cobbler for 28 years, and I'm willing to bet that a lot of people haven't even seen it, and honestly most people that have give it a resounding "meh", outside of enthusiasts. (PS I love that movie)

Thanks CJ but being as I'm more of Game Designer and not really an artist. I think it's best If I just revive the original project which was a 2D platform indi game.

Like honestly I'm still somewhat shocked I got good at something I only did for one project. But yeah I don't have a interest in drawing beyond what I've done. Things could change and I could find a passion for it but right now, I don't care for it all that much.

I appreciate the help guys and it's been a rough day (online) but I think maybe this was a sign that I shouldn't have pretended to be something I originally wasn't just because mom said "oh hey your pretty good at drawing". That was a bad idea, but it kept me from being kicked out so I guess there's that. XD


Game Design is my passion and maybe it was the direction I should have stuck with. When I'm ready, I'll just go find an artist to do the character designs like I should have done from the beginning.

I won't be drawing much beyond D-Resonate stuff and working on getting that chapter 0 up.

Maybe I'll do some fanart of somethings. After all might as well make use of the talent I gained by accident right? lol

You're still doing it! Goddammit so much.

It's worth considering that people offer comments and advice because of interest.

How many times must this be said?
 

ART
IS
SUBJECTIVE!

Just thought I'd copy/paste this here since it involves you guys too.

I already know you are all frustrated. I already know that by the end of this week I'll be more hated then Snake was.

Hell, I'm STILL surprised I have not been banned out seer frustration.

And to just to be clear. I'm only good at drawing because my mother and grandmother(now decised) were both good at it but never really took an interest in it.


So familywise it's no surprise I don't care much for it beyond burning off sexual frustration.

I'd say something a little more eloquent, but you've reduced me to screaming.
 

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

There is just so much wrong with ALL the shit you just done said.

First of all, passing an "intro to programming" class doesn't mean you're...
y'know what, no, fuck it, have your pity party, I'm going to go eat cake, jack off, and pass out.

Be angry if you want. There's nothing I can do stop the flames.


I could say I'm sorry for being a terrible person after all.


But I don't think an apologie is going to cut it.


Youy know what screw it. The damage is done. There's nothing more I can do to stop this expect not post at all.

If it makes you feel better. I'm atleast aware that most of what i just said was pretty terrible.

XD

I've been at a track meet all day, how did Kyanbu get banned?

For trolling nearly everyone with my Apirl fools plan that didn't quite work out as planned. XD


Everything said in the this thread for the last few pages was part of a plot to fake a mental break down as part of a apirl fools gag.


But it kind went a wee bit too well and since I started faking the go down early, the plan fell apart within minutes.

So I was forced to come clean. A lot of the people involved didn't like it so I'm sorry for offending anyone.


No hard feeling right guys.... guys...?


DON'T HIT!!!!!

If I can't hit you, then how else can we play BlackJack? Or are you more of a RedFred person?

BlackJack is an exception. You may hit that way.

Wat?

Your late rpg. The whole thing was a hoax. That part included.

it was simply another dick move on top of another dick move.

Dicks on top of dicks, is anything more NPF?

In case you were serious, let me straighten this out.
 

Does no one read the reason they get banned or pay attention in threads when fake bans start flying out?

If we felt trolled by this and wanted to ban you, you wouldn't be actually posting.

Yeah but it's a Methaphysical ban Synk.. it's like... a moral ban, a dick ban within a dick move...

...a Dickception if you will.

Don't worry Sync, I know that wasn't the reason I was fake banned. Just playing around is all.

Well, you play a pretty convincing dipshit moron who can't listen to other people or see the world that exists beyond the end of his nose.

So, there's that, too.

Also the furry porn, that's a pretty big downer to some people.

edit: pretty big 'upper' to others though

i think your real problem in life is that the women you draw have too few breasts. yes, they're large, but just two? are you some puritanical old man? step it up.

i've been thinking queenie could use an arthropod partner in buxom badassery, centitits.

Kyanbu I forgot if I've said already but I've really been meaning to tell you that one photo of you in the camwhore thread with the white suit and shades and ninja sword is easily like, a fuckload-billion times better on every level than anything you've ever done here in this thread so maybe that's the direction where your artisticquintaboobed furry-skinned muse lies.

I kind of want an excuse to use that phrase more.
 

I went to the thread only to search for that image and yeah I have to agree.

Kyanbu: be that guy. Don't be that guy.

Kyanbu, international suit and sword model.

Okay Betty, I'll consider it! XD Also with all the love that pic of me with a sword got. I should do some more of them everynow and then along side my usual artwork.

Of course I'll probably wait till I can get a Rapier first. There's a few I've had my eye on for some time now.

Kyanbu: If you're good at something, never do it for free.

Call some sword... retailers, wtfever they're called, and get you a job modeling those bastards.

Hey, I was into liking awesomesword Kyanbu WAY before it was cool!

Guys I have decided to drop everything for what might be my best idea yet!!

Queens Blade: Furries


Its my most original idea yet. Complete with quad tit boxom furry and bug girls.

The story is about busty, a young busty ferret on a journey to become the most sexiest queen in all the universe. The comic with be 2 pages an issue. Plus both pages will be posted today!!! OoO

More info to come. Complete with concept art!

So we're finally gonna have art in an art thread? What lunacy is this!?

A better April Fool's joke would be if you actually did something original and/or good.

Hey, don't hurt Kyanbu's feelings. You know how sensitive he is.

Ouch, meh everyone's a critic.

The stories may suck but so long as I got one fan.

I can live with that. Cause there be no point in doing a free web comic based off of real life like 90% of everyone else on the net if I was bored the whole way through.

Me I'll stick with what what's fun to do imo. Good old fantasy and sci-fi.

This is a terrible reason to stay in your rut. You're basing your direction in art and storytelling on the opinions of people with low standards.

Not going to kill.myself over trying to fix what's pretty much not well liked to begin with.

Besides I'm not going to rush myself towards trying to get out something different asap. Especially when I'm not going to gain anything from trying impress you guys.

Different stuff will come when it does. If you don't like what I'm doing for whatever reasons you may have. You don't have to look at it muchless view this thread.

Seriously, what do you have against improving?

If you don't want to get better, why bother at all? Especially if it's a project you want to make professional. I legitimately don't understand. I'm not trying to be snarky, or mean, or rude, I just genuinely do not get it.

Hey, I'm with Kyanbu on this. Artists should follow their own hearts, not the nitpicking of the masses.

Who knows? Maybe Kyanbu will be a 21st century VanGoh who only sells one piece of work in his life but becomes spectacularly famous and influential after his death.

Don't put ideas in his head!

Now he's gonna imagine himself as the future subject of a Doctor Who episode.

Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against improveing nor do I have any problems with branching out.

I just don't feel like its something I absolutely have to do this very second. I'll post something different and improve when I get to it or feel the need to do it on my own. Till then there probably won't be much activity here or on my DA page beyond requests and commissions.


Speaking of different, been thinking of doing some tales of graces f fanart. Probably won't be anything more then some lineworks and Flatcolors though.

You never will. You're going to stew in mediocrity unless you actively try to change your attitude. And you can't just say "oh well I don't feel like changing my attitude today" because that attitude is the problem. You are terrified of challenging yourself. You're not not going to hit some magic day where all of a sudden you feel like getting better, because that anxiety is always going to be there. You aren't going to improve until you are actively trying to overcome the fact that you don't feel like it.

The fact that Mookie can pay his bills means at least a few people like that crap.
 

It somehow defies logic and works for Michael Terracciano.


He's a nice guy and everything, but his art is terrible and hasn't changed beyond a few minor details since DD was launched in 2001 or whatever. And his writing is arguably worse.