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Aldurin 04-22-2011 09:55 PM

Sorry, that kind of came off in the wrong tone. I meant a general check on profanity. Light swears like hell or damn are fine.

TDK 04-22-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend (Post 1122671)
I'm still not sure about the swearing when Verifiedz is on because I'm not sure how much verifiedz gives a fuck about swearing.

Anyway I'm pretty okay with toning down the eff-bombz for NUMBERSNUMBERSNUMBERS because much as I feel that "being a ten year old boy" is a reasonable reason for a given person to not want to hear swearing, "having ridiculous parents who are all up in your business and, themselves, insist on acting like ten year olds about swearing" is a reasonable reason for asking people to chill on the swearing.

...I mean obv. people aren't going to be perfect about it and it's not like I'm going to go into SERVER HITLER mode about enforcing it so if these parents are gonna like, completely lose it the instant they see a cuss then this is probably not gonna be the server for Earl's friend but if a sincere, good-faith effort is enough to keep the parents happy here I think we can do that.

FASCIST

BH5432 04-23-2011 01:29 PM

Yo can you add BH5432 to the white list? Also anyone have any good mods that I could use?

Aldurin 04-23-2011 09:11 PM

http://sadpanda.us/images/451604-KHAHIEV.png

We now have a cactus farmer. Just go south of the community center, you can't miss it. Anybody is free to take from the output whenever they want, and I'll be adding more production layers soon.

Flarecobra 04-23-2011 09:14 PM

Another one? I know there's one by the Flitter thing...

Fifthfiend 04-23-2011 10:01 PM

So instead of screwing around with bukkit, I screwed around with MINECART STATIONS.

We now have Grand Central underneath the Community Center. From there you can either take Fiendline or Vyper Line.

If you choose to travel on Fiendline you can set your destination on Fiendline to either Arhra's tower or to Tower Station under my tower. From Tower Station you can continue your journey on the Arhra line either taking the alternate route to Arhra's tower or continuing to Kerensky's house (I think this is being expanded to go to Earl's castle).

Alternately on the Vyper line you can set your destination either to Vridis's home, Mt. Chunk Error, or continue to Sand Station near Pip Boy's island. From Sand Station you can disembark or continue your journey on the Vyper line to Dragonia Tower which will also put you in the vicinity of the Commune mine/towers.

The switching is a little bit complicated but it is super-fun once you get the hang of how it works so don't be intimidated and feel free to ask for help figuring it out!

Nikose Tyris 04-23-2011 11:01 PM

Soon to come: Skyrail.

Kerensky287 04-24-2011 12:01 AM

Just went on to try out the rail line. It is fucking awesomeradical, but the station at one of the stops (I forget which, I think it was Fifth Tower station) needs another booster to get the cart to the end. As it stands, you ride it and it starts heading back down, which leads it down a different path that includes a manual booster.

Seeing everybody's stuff made me think, "Geez, I need to have a 'thing.' " You know what I mean? Like, if you pass Shyria's stuff, you think, "This belongs to Shyria because it is dragon-shaped." And if you stop at Arhra's Tower, you think, "This belongs to Arhra because it is madness-shaped." Meanwhile, you hit the house Ver and I built, and what do you think? "This belongs to somebody uncreative because it is goddamn box-shaped."

Obviously you can judge houses purely on their shape.

Anyway I was kind of a dick to my brother recently so I feel like I need to make it up to him by playing some game with him, either Minecraft or Gmod, and if it's Minecraft I want to have an actual project to work on. And if I decide on a project, I need to theme it around myself! Or maybe I should start on a project and then theme myself around it.

I'm kind of new at this 'having a thing' thing. I need advice from thing-people. How does one start with a thing? Is there a thing-tutorial?

Red Fighter 1073 04-24-2011 12:22 AM

Not sure if you guys have already seen this and used it as your template for making branching pathways in your Minecart railways, but wow this is cool. This is basically a video that shows you can use Power Rails to stop at intersections between multiple paths and then choose which path you want to take.

Thadius 04-24-2011 12:23 AM

My thing is building things in either ridiculous areas or of ridiculous size. I combined both into my Terra project, building a floating tower island with facilities and a doghouse. My Infernium project was ridiculous to start with, so I didn't have to worry about that.

You'll find a thing, don't worry. Shyria's is dragons, Flare's is setting things on fire and keeping them that way...

I think, to quote Terry Pratchett, you don't build a temple and hope for a god. You find a god, then build a temple.

BitVyper 04-24-2011 12:59 AM

Quote:

Just went on to try out the rail line. It is fucking awesomeradical, but the station at one of the stops (I forget which, I think it was Fifth Tower station) needs another booster to get the cart to the end. As it stands, you ride it and it starts heading back down, which leads it down a different path that includes a manual booster.
Yeah, Arhra built his bits before ramps got added to the stations, so that one doesn't quite have enough power currently, however it ends up shoving you down to the main station anyway.

Flarecobra 04-24-2011 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thadius (Post 1122800)
Flare's is setting things on fire and keeping them that way...

Corpious amounts of Netherrack.

Oh, and mine's also fairly intricate underground stuff.

BitVyper 04-24-2011 04:35 PM

here's a photobucket murdered version of the latest render:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...per/output.png

I'm sure we'll have a link to the 100% size thing soonish.

Flarecobra 04-24-2011 05:33 PM

I love how we got a random bit of land out in the middle of The Void there.

BitVyper 04-24-2011 05:35 PM

Might'a been a messed up portal or something.

Aldurin 04-24-2011 07:49 PM

So there's this area with awesome terrain starting around z=1200 going west of my fortress. I mean it's like awesome terrain that keeps on going, I haven't even seen it all.

I'll post some screenshots of the area later unless Bit or Fifth posts a render before I get the chance.

Also if you do go out here please leave the floating cacti alone and just let them float there and be awesome.

Fifthfiend 04-25-2011 03:56 AM

Running bukkit again.

World portals re-enabled, except Infernum for right now because fuck the nether (ALSO because I took down the portal to put in Grand Central and need to build a new one somewhere).

/spawn should be working, probably, I think. No /home though. Small chance of inventory wonkiness, let me know if you experience any.

Time settings for Elysium and Necromunda are back in place. Time is running naturally on Terra as has previously been mentioned.

This is a non-"recommended" version of bukkit so there's a possibility of server errors, let me know if anyone experiences any bizarre game behavior or just like total catastrophic serversplosions. Although TBH I actually expect less bugginess since bukkit tends to be, aside from plugins and such, just a superior, better-running version of the server software.

Marc v4.0 04-25-2011 06:35 AM

When you have the time, please do replace the portal to the nether, I need some flaming hit rocks for projects and such.

Also, let my wolf out of it's spawn-protected prison, that's not cool.

Fifthfiend 04-25-2011 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc v1.0 (Post 1122920)
spawn-protected prison

??

edit: that's your dog at the spawn? Man that wasn't a prison, that was a shelter so at least your poor neglected pet wasn't getting rained on all the time after you abandoned him for like two weeks or whatever.

If you wanna let him out you should be able to just right-click him a couple times and then have him follow you out.

Aldurin 04-25-2011 10:25 AM

Server seemed fine until I went into Arcanos. For some reason it's taking forever to load and it keeps causing errors.

BitVyper 04-25-2011 10:42 AM

Haven't had any trouble switching worlds, myself. I thought I was getting massive lag, then I realised I had virus scans running. So everything seems fine for me so far.

Marc: I shortened up the roof on the dog shelter. You should be able to get him out now.

Edit: Actually, the world seems to be rendering a lot better with bukkit on.

Aldurin 04-25-2011 05:46 PM

So I'll probably be not playing minecraft until the next update, since starting yesterday it began freezing on me 5-10 minutes into playing, both SMP and single player.

I already reinstalled minecraft and java to try to fix this but NOPE.

So if anybody knows what this might be I'd be glad to hear.

Flarecobra 04-25-2011 05:54 PM

What... the FUCK is up with that weather on Ely?

When it rains, it makes snow on the ground! THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SORT OF METEORLOGICAL SENSE!

Fifthfiend 04-25-2011 06:10 PM

Oh i just thought of why this might be happening, if it's the thing I think it might be I can fix it soon-ish

It's actually kind of funny

TDK 04-25-2011 06:37 PM

Maybe its freezing rain.

Flarecobra 04-25-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDK (Post 1122996)
Maybe its freezing rain.

Then it'd turn into ice, not snow.

Bells 04-25-2011 06:47 PM

Or maybe..
MINECRAFT IS WEEEEEEIRD!

Flarecobra 04-25-2011 06:50 PM

We've known that for a long time. :P

Fifthfiend 04-25-2011 06:57 PM

In this case it's very possibly a case of me weirding up minecraft above and beyond its normal level of weirdness.

If I am right then what is happening is that minecraft is displaying rain and snow effects based on the actual characteristics of the actual world you are playing BUT is deciding whether or not to generate snow based on, essentially, the geography of a completely different map altogether.

Bells 04-25-2011 07:03 PM

oh my god, overlapping dimensions...

Maybe it's a bug/glitch of the wheater system itself? Like, a few pages back i posted a screenshot of an area that has a clear divide of where snow falls and where rain falls, which seems to be defined by terrain. Maybe it's just glitching out, display rain graphics in a area where there should be snow

TDK 04-25-2011 07:04 PM

Snow is a kind of ice.

Fifthfiend 04-25-2011 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bells (Post 1123008)
Maybe it's a bug/glitch of the wheater system itself? Like, a few pages back i posted a screenshot of an area that has a clear divide of where snow falls and where rain falls, which seems to be defined by terrain. Maybe it's just glitching out, display rain graphics in a area where there should be snow

Assuming i'm right it is 100% the result of a thing which I did.

Grimpond 04-25-2011 08:49 PM

waaaaaaait wait wait wait.

wait.

You mean there are things that aren't?!?!

BitVyper 04-25-2011 10:11 PM

Was a glitch. False alarm.

Flarecobra 04-25-2011 10:15 PM

I have not been on, so you can't blame me for this.

Besides, I only go after wild ones, not tame.

BitVyper 04-25-2011 11:21 PM

I blame you for all wolf death. Even hypothetical wolf death that didn't actually happen.

Fifthfiend 04-26-2011 05:12 PM

Switched to the new recommended version of bukkit. Rain should now put out fires correctly, among other things.

Also readded pickboat because fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck exploding boats.

Installed BlocksOnGlass, it is now possible to place rail, doors, and torches on glass.

Per Thad's comment below this one - infernum portal is indeed back up

Fixed the weather error Flare was experiencing on Elysium

Fixed the Necromunda spawn problem Content was having

Thadius 04-26-2011 05:13 PM

Is the Infernium portal back up yet? Haven't played lately, so I wouldn't know.

Fifthfiend 04-26-2011 06:55 PM

Yep.

On another note, shy, I put some floating torches over your necromunda trees cause mobs were spawning on top of them. I'm probably gonna install the plugin that stops mobs spawning on leaves because having to light trees is fuckin stupid.

Flarecobra 04-26-2011 07:07 PM

Yes, a tree grew like this.

http://sadpanda.us/images/455574-Q1AWNAI.png

Bells 04-26-2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend (Post 1123186)

Installed BlocksOnGlass, it is now possible to place rail, doors, and torches on glass.

This is awesome!

Made me think of a railroad in the sky surrounded entirely by glass. Cool!

Nikose Tyris 04-26-2011 07:48 PM

Oh right, added a Ventilation shaft to your room, Bells.

Fifthfiend 04-27-2011 03:55 PM

The Great Sea Wind Waker HD Texture Pack is soooooooooooooooooo pretty

Melfice 04-27-2011 04:00 PM

So, anybody here familiar with not being able to run the game in the launcher?
Because I'm having that problem right now. (I know this is for the Fiendcraft server, but it's done very well as the go-to general Minecraft thread, so I'm hi-jacking the thread for just a bit. PROBLEM?)

I've been able to play in the launcher prior to 1.5, but now it won't run for more than a few minutes at most.
In the browser, I've got no problems at all. Smooth sailing, as it were.

I also have no crash-logs for those interested, since Minecraft doesn't generate any, and I can't force them to appear either.

SO.
SOLUTION? YES? NO?

Flarecobra 04-27-2011 04:11 PM

It works fine here, and I use the launcher all the time...

Aldurin 04-27-2011 05:03 PM

I've been getting freezes when I play within the launcher, but I just got a bunch of windows updates and did some re-installs so it may not be similar to your situation.

Does the game just freeze in the middle of playing so that you are forced to end the program in the Task Manager?

Pip Boy 04-27-2011 08:04 PM

I can't connect :(

It just says "logging in" forever.

EDIT: Its working now.

EDIT AGAIN: You may be able to log off, Nikose, but you can't hide from your feelings.

Melfice 04-28-2011 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldurin (Post 1123436)
I've been getting freezes when I play within the launcher, but I just got a bunch of windows updates and did some re-installs so it may not be similar to your situation.

Does the game just freeze in the middle of playing so that you are forced to end the program in the Task Manager?

The game freezes, but then goes to an empty crash screen (where you'd normally get a crash-log), and then blacks out to crash to the desktop.

Pretty frustrating, really. More-so, since I can play fine in the browser.
Man, and I really wanted to try out IndustrialCraft too. =/

Doc ock rokc 04-28-2011 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melfice (Post 1123570)
The game freezes, but then goes to an empty crash screen (where you'd normally get a crash-log), and then blacks out to crash to the desktop.

Pretty frustrating, really. More-so, since I can play fine in the browser.
Man, and I really wanted to try out IndustrialCraft too. =/

Did you try a complete deletion and re download of the launcher?

Melfice 04-28-2011 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc ock rokc (Post 1123572)
Did you try a complete deletion and re download of the launcher?

More than once! =D

But I think I've got it fixed now.
Anybody else who's suffering from this problem, please try this:

1) Open notepad.
2) Type or copy-paste the following code:
Code:

@echo off
java -Xincgc -Xmx800m -jar minecraft.exe
pause

3) Save As [whatever filename you like].bat
4) Run the game through the .bat.
5) ?????
6) PROFIT!!!!!

Link to source: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewto...87436#p4361491

Flarecobra 04-28-2011 02:13 AM

I see someone's starting to utilize that "Rails on Glass" stuff right over the ruins...

Oh, and I'm putting up a glass shield to keep the wool statues from catching on fire from lightning strikes. Again.

Also, lightning strikes when the skies are clear... anyone notice that?

Nikose Tyris 04-28-2011 07:28 AM

Look TDK we're buddies and all but

You have a giant flaming Pentagram

And a forest right next to it.

No word of a lie I'm standing on a sand pillar about 200 paces from the dragon statue, waiting for a supertree to grow, light and just burn everything you love.

Seriously I need this.

Edit: SERIOUSLY

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6...0428083215.png

BitVyper 04-28-2011 07:59 AM

/shock nikose /shock nikose /shock nikose /shock nikose
 
So what you're saying is you're standing on something that isn't flammable.

Nikose Tyris 04-28-2011 08:21 AM

From that vantage point I'm standing on ice.

From my preffered vantage I was standing on a sand pillar.

Also I thought it was changed to /nikose, stop toying with my heart.

TDK 04-28-2011 11:20 AM

I'm beginning to think maybe I should extinguish my pentagram.

like maybe I could make a big basin around it and then fill that with water.

AND then I could replace the netherrack with glowstone and have a giant underwater glowing pentagram satan-pool. :D

Aerozord 04-28-2011 01:38 PM

things I have learned about rails since 1.5

1. buttons directly next to you cannot be pressed while in a minecart
2. if you destroy a minecart while inside it you will fall through the block the track is over
3. good way to use powered rails as a booster is detector rail-powered rail-detector rail so it can be used both ways.
3b. yea you can just like hit a lever and leave it, but this looks alot nicer
4. you can jump from one mine cart to another
5. still working on a smoother way to stop the cart in an easily resetable way. so far best I got is hitting the leaver that activates the power rail right at the end. which is hard to do when you are accelerating towards it and have about half a second window

Bells 04-28-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flarecobra (Post 1123574)
I see someone's starting to utilize that "Rails on Glass" stuff right over the ruins...

Oh, and I'm putting up a glass shield to keep the wool statues from catching on fire from lightning strikes. Again.

Also, lightning strikes when the skies are clear... anyone notice that?

Yo Flare! I saw your message at Steam this morning, sorry, i was sleeping when you sent it to me

No, i'm not the one making the Glass covered sky rail, wish i was though!

Just a quick request/suggestion on that note... would anyone be interested in connecting this sky rail to my glass tower? It would make a nice station, but i just don't have the materials or knowledge to pull something like this now.

Also Nik

:dance:VENTILATION!:dance:

Nikose Tyris 04-28-2011 02:28 PM

The Railglassway on Elysium was my bad. I was just building up and up and didn't actually consider how I was building over people's stuff. I'll reposition and move stuff towards the Bells glass tower.

Fifthfiend 04-28-2011 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melfice (Post 1123573)
More than once! =D

But I think I've got it fixed now.
Anybody else who's suffering from this problem, please try this:

1) Open notepad.
2) Type or copy-paste the following code:
Code:

@echo off
java -Xincgc -Xmx800m -jar minecraft.exe
pause

3) Save As [whatever filename you like].bat
4) Run the game through the .bat.
5) ?????
6) PROFIT!!!!!

Link to source: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewto...87436#p4361491

I was reading boingboing.net and one of their writers was saying, among various other crazy bullshit, what a fully-developed, stable game Minecraft is.

And then I laughed and laughed and laughed.

Aerozord 04-28-2011 03:20 PM

ok I worked out breaking, now if only I could master long distance redwire use I could create an extensive train network

Melfice 04-28-2011 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend (Post 1123614)
I was reading boingboing.net and one of their writers was saying, among various other crazy bullshit, what a fully-developed, stable game Minecraft is.

And then I laughed and laughed and laughed.

It is fairly stable.
... for a Java game. I think.

I honestly don't know why the launcher won't work for me since 1.5(_01), but the browser version has been good for me all the time. (Well, it wouldn't work without the fix.)

So, yeah.

But it IS rather prone to quirks, I agree.

Ryong 04-28-2011 09:35 PM

I've been playing single-player and yesterday my game crashed multiple times.

I lost two stacks of iron ingots, my only two diamonds - since I have terrible luck to find them -a stack of sand, a bucket of lava - was making some glass - and like 20 stacks of cobblestone.

After playing like four hours today, the cobblestone magically reappeared in the chest, but that's it. So yeah, I wouldn't call it stable either.

I'm wondering: can I post pictures of my single player crazy project here? Not sure if this is JUST for Fifth's server.

Aldurin 04-28-2011 11:06 PM

Ya, this is sort of the generic minecraft thread even though 99.9999999% of the discussion is about fifth's server.

And if single player is giving you trouble, then don't feel bad about installing an inventory edit mod so that you can replace stuff that's been glitched into oblivion.

Grimpond 04-28-2011 11:39 PM

weird. WIth all the disking around I do with my files, I have yet to encounter any errors or failures.

Fifthfiend 04-29-2011 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryong (Post 1123666)
I'm wondering: can I post pictures of my single player crazy project here? Not sure if this is JUST for Fifth's server.

I got no problems with it.

Doc ock rokc 04-29-2011 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend (Post 1123680)
I got no problems with it.

same. Also I dick around with my files trying out the gameplay mods every now and then So I should be even more likely to crash but I dont.

Fifthfiend 04-29-2011 07:03 AM

I meant no problems with ryong posting his pictures here.

Melfice 04-29-2011 02:01 PM

Okay, guys. I urge you to take a look at FiniteLiquid.

It really is sweet. It's like "Holy shit! It's water!"
Sadly not SMP, but check it out regardless.

Bells 04-29-2011 02:09 PM

I love the tubbing works, but isn't this the same Mod that if handled wrong can unleash an unstoppable Tsunami all over the map?

Aerozord 04-29-2011 02:21 PM

I was always more bothered by water never filling things up then by infinitely producing source blocks

Arcanum 04-29-2011 02:29 PM

Now back to lurking in this thread and never posting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bells (Post 1123762)
I love the tubbing works, but isn't this the same Mod that if handled wrong can unleash an unstoppable Tsunami all over the map?

Yes. Yes it is.

If you place an Ocean Block above the natural water level, that then becomes the new water level.

Marc v4.0 04-29-2011 03:09 PM

I like the heating iron thing, really neat

Nikose Tyris 04-29-2011 03:46 PM

Guys, important:

Apparently we have a new IP, according to "kingdave9" who is.. the manager of the server company fifth rents from, I guess.

67.222.156.70

Flarecobra 04-29-2011 03:57 PM

I can barely read those signs.

Nikose Tyris 04-29-2011 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flarecobra (Post 1123777)
I can barely read those signs.

If you're seein' signs you can't read, you're on the wrong server now. :P

Flarecobra 04-29-2011 04:01 PM

No, it was on the old IP.

Fifthfiend 04-29-2011 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris (Post 1123775)
Guys, important:

Apparently we have a new IP, according to "kingdave9" who is.. the manager of the server company fifth rents from, I guess.

67.222.156.70

uh

??

Nikose Tyris 04-29-2011 04:02 PM

Which is the wrong IP now.

Edit: Truth. check your email.

Edit2: Also, server is running kind of buggy atm, which is weird cause it was just rebooted. also night time on Elysium.

Edit3: Was day on Necro, then server crash.

Ryong 04-29-2011 04:17 PM

Okay, for starters:

I had built, prior to the "sandstone occurs naturally below sand" update, a tower made of sand and sandstone. I also made a lava shrine thing underground a bit ago.

Then I saw the post here about the Wind Waker mod, which inspired me to do...Something.

I believe it's easier to link like this.

It's based, loosely, on the forsaken fortress.

Flarecobra 04-29-2011 04:22 PM

Wondered who's bombed-out sand tower that was, if it was on Necro.


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