Oh, and I SUPPOSE the Black Mage cameo wasn't bad. I GUESS.
 

Oh god, the puns.

THE DREADFULLY DELICIOUSLY BAD PUNS

You continue to make me like this comic, Matt.

I've actually thought of something like that. Since it's fantasy based, and influenced by DnD, I try to figure out what class the character would be. I don't really know DnD classes very well outside the very basic ones though.

Kit I peg as a thief/black mage/fighter (I guess maybe like whatever the reverse of a Paladin is..)

Liz I think of as a Ranger.

Boozloaf as the White Mage or a Cleric..

Rado I think of as the fighter, but he's kinda sketchy since he's not been in it very much. There will be a character introduced later named Charsi that will be the obvious fighter though (she actually has a melee weapon).

Dark Knight. Cecil is this class in Final Fantasy 4j/2e.

Come to think of it, this type of scene would make an interesting YouTube promo for TD. Would probably take more work than it's worth, though.

Well, in DnD terms, the anti-paladin is a Blackguard. Kit really doesn't fit the archetype though. Blackguards must have made friendly contact with an evil outsider (Demon, Devil, etc. - I guess Kit's probably got that part covered) and they must have an evil alignment. They're typically evil knights-errant of evil gods doing evil deeds of evilness.

I see her as more of an Arcane Trickster - a prestige class that combines Rogue skills and sneak-attacks with spellcasting.

That'd work. Kit isn't really evil, so a Blackguard wouldn't work too well for her. I looked online and it said the alignment for this class is "any nonlawful" which works for her too.

Before The Dreadful, there was another story I was working on which was a pure fantasy, Kit was in it, and was a thief, and Charsi was in it, and was a berserker.

I've always liked thief characters, but I also occasionally like the simplicity of a tank :D I've never been much into spellcasters cos there is too much for me to keep track of..

This is from what little I've played of DnD rule based RPGs though. I've not played an actual game of DnD, I just know what little I know from games like Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights :)

I'd reveal what class I think Jeanne's is, but I think that would be too much of a spoiler :D

The puns hurt so good.

Also, where can I get a copy of Lesperado?

Wherever ye olde pornographies are solde!

I read somewhere there actually were porn pictures made during the U.S Civil War time, so it's actually not all that anachronistic :D (though I dunno about movies)...

Alas, most girl/girl porn is terrible, but I might make an exception for girls with horns and tails.

I probably need psychological help for that, but meh, at this point, in for a penny in for a pound with insanity. ;)

You know, I wonder if there actually is any cheesy porn title left in the world that hasn't already been used. Because there is a Lesborado porn movie, although I'm fairly sure it doesn't have a western theme.

That sounds like blatant false advertising.

This absolutely sounds like it's pulling this thread in the wrong direction.

Gotta talk about something till the next page is posted, I guess :P

I hope you will elaborate on the concept of Lesborado in the future.

That might be up to the fans to do, like CoM:CoL only w/ The Dreadful.

Burke's body will be a prominent player in that story.

That is one of the most distressing things I've considered. Isn't porn corny enough without him?

It's not the cornyness aspect.

His is simply the only hole large enough to allow for entry without catastrophic tearing.

OK, I think I am blind now. We need a new topic, stat!

Will the 'Taur be joining them in whatever endeavor it is they have going? I hope so, he has a lovely sense of humor (They all do! Grim jokes and puns, hurrah!) and I like 'Taurs. :)

I kinda preferred how cow-like he looked in his first panel. His eyes changed and now he's... not handsome, but less cow-like. Ugly was more interesting, aesthetically, in my humble opinion.

Pretty sure that's a different character.

Edit: I am stupid and thought they went to a town of Minotaurs.

When he bows his head he looks pretty similar. I think it's just the angle you see him at that makes him look more ugly, and the fact he was all hunched over and shit. Standing up straight does wonders for a man's attractiveness. Especially if said man has a cow head.

Could be, I reckon. Could be. How on Earth?...

YOUR FACE IS HOW.

Also, I was sleepy when I read the comic.

Yeah, I think Boozloaf being around for awhile would be fun. I like contrasting his Ned Flanders type religious enthusiasm with Kit and Liz's hard edged nature.

The hardest part is figuring out why they would keep him around...

Originally I had plans for Boozloaf to be just the typical minotaur brutish type, but I figured having him this way would be something no one would expect :)



Well, if Boozloaf is a Moomon, he could be from Salt Lick City, Mootah. (keeping to the theme of ridiculous cow-related puns)

Wings, horns, a minotaur, an elf, a centaur... what's up next? You got a half-human half-griffon planned in there somewhere?

Edit: Ooh, wait, I know. A drider.

Ohh there's a lot of fantasy things in the works for this comic...

(you forgot Dwarf!)

Though I plan to be a bit more gradual about their introduction from here on. I'm going to try to focus on Kit and just the cast I have now, get 'em established and stuff, before I start tossing in all new things.

http://vidya.dyndns.org/d2/board/src/1264485330239.jpg

You're gonna milk this theme for all it's worth, aren't you.
Yes, let's steer it in a different direction.

Holy cow, I think these puns are giving me an ulcer.

Yeah, they really are udderly terrible. Make it stop.

What's your beef?

Let me just grab the cow by the horns, and tell you what's wrong.
It's these puns. They're just horrible.

Ah, you're just being bull-headed.

Guys, stop. You're depriving our writer of somewhat original material!

I hope Matt never makes me translate puns into German. Luckily, all minotaurs so far speak English.

EDIT: Yeah, I shouldn't have said that. Now he's gonna do that to bully me.

Pfft, like that stops Matt.
He'll just take it and never credit us. He's that much of a rebel.

I've actually already put a few of these in it :D

The next page has a bit of a Hurricane of Puns...Wanted to get most of 'em out of my system.

Having kit actually say "Slamdunk.jpg" (and the bm sprite, while we're on the subject) strikes me personally as stupid and trying to cater to the internet meme-loving crowd, and stands out poorly in what is otherwise a great comic.

The PUNS! :ohdear: They're just udderly painful and very funny at the same time... this use of PUNS it's un-herd of.... :D

Oh and as stated he used quite a few from the Forum...

Edit: I Agree, for me "Slamdunk.jpg" = WTF!?

The puns were pretty great. The "Slamdunk.jpg" felt plain out of place though.

Should that be "our" in the first panel, not "or"?

And slamdunk.jpg felt awkward to me, as well. I mean, it would have felt natural, if not for the setting of a western.

Oops, yeah that should be "our" and not "or". Probably should send Brian an edit o' this page.

Maybe I'll change the slamdunk.jpg line too since no one seems to like it. Seemed like a funny idea at the time though.

I should just change it to another pun...

Yeah, slamdunk.jpg doesn't work. At all.

You continue to have excellent use of really bad puns, however!

Teehee
 

Do that, and I pun-ch you.

I'd say change it to another pun! Yes!

It doesn't make any sense to have a reference to a computer filetype in an old west setting, especially since people don't actually say ".jpg" out loud in real life.

But by all means pump this page up to another category of pun hurricane.

Puns are simultaneously the lowest form of humor, and the most sophisticated. I'll let you all decide which end of the scale this is on. ;)

However, I think we can all empathize with Liz in the last panel. I'd be thinking of putting them down too.

Updates to Page 32: I fixed the typo on panel one, and then I changed the "slamdunk.jpg" line to something else. I just finished Emailing the redone page to Brian and he'll upload it when he can :)

I'm not sure when the site will display the new page, it might be a few weeks. It took a very long time for page 007 to update to the new version. I have also sent Brian an updated version of page 29, which fixed panel 2 so the hoof prints actually look like hoof prints.

Yeah... Nobody does that in real life...

:ohdear:

Saved. Fuck you guys. I appreciated the effort.

I agree with only half of that.jpg :|

But yeah, I didn't really find it funny for the same reason. I do the .jpg thing from time to time but only online and OUTLOUD If I'm on skype or something. In real life if only if someone it get the reference and it would work due to it being out of place and if I want to get an odd lookf rom someone :P

I'm disappointed that no-one took the opportunity to make a misteak pun in this thread.

According to lolwikipedia, basketball-like games existed at least fifty years prior to some dude nailing peach baskets to a gym wall in 1891, so, yeah, it is withing the realm of possibility that one could have played basketball in the years when the West was still wild. However, given that Chick Hearn wouldn't be born until 1916 and wouldn't invent the term "slam dunk" until later still, the matter of basketball being a thing that existed in the old West becomes irrelevant as to whether it makes any sense for Kit to say "slamdunk.jpg."

Kit should use more internet slang to encourage the youth of today to do historical research into exactly how anachronistic her words are.

http://harry.enzoverder.be/cats/funn...e-slamdunk.jpg

That's because our puns are simply a cut above the rest of the herd.

Looks like the 'Loaf is mentioned in the Webcomics section. He's ALREADY WORLD FAMOUS.

My initial reaction to the "slamdunk.jpg" line was confusion, but then it made me stop to think, "are there computers in this world/setting?"

So, is this foreshadowing? Should we expect to see the internet later on?
I'm interested in finding out more about the world that this story is happening in. Maybe I'm caring too much about the setting? I'm not sure as to the tone of this story yet, so I'm not sure if the world warrants caring about.

Nothing to do but wait for more pages, then!

Well I changed the line to something that makes a bit more sense, so you don't have to worry about anything coming up w/ computers :)

The changed version should be up in a few weeks.

I demand that you make Boozloaf a fragile speedster now, just to fuck with whomever put him on that page before he actually developed the minotaur tropes it is referencing.

Wait what?

When Brian replaces pages with the edited versions of them, it sometimes takes a week or more before the site will actually display the new version of the page. I don't really know how it exactly works, but when I made an edit to page 007 it took a few weeks before the site made the change.

I edited paeg 32 and sent it to Brian (I made a notice about it already). It will be some time before the site will show the edited one. I also edited page 29.

Page 33! I don't think Liz is all that sincere...

I lawled.

I don't think polygamy works that way at all.

Edit: Looked it up. Totally doesn't work that way.

hahaha yessss

But...polygamy is one word?

Education has come a long ways since then.

@Phil: I think that's part of the joke. It's funnier that they get it wrong.

Look out, world! Liz is coming, and she's got plans to polygamy the everloving FUCK out of you.

This is why back when Liz spoke Spanish, I said it would be out of character for her to speak it perfectly, since she isn't exactly a master of English either.

I dunno what the literacy rate was back in the Old West, but I would guess someone of Liz's state in life probably isn't familiar w/ the word "Polygamy" (or the concept of it).

It's worth noting that "Moomons" are not "Mormons". I just used the word to go w/ the cow-pun theme. The "polygamy" thing is just cos I thought it would be funny to show how ignorant Liz and Kit are, and how they'd be religious out of convenience (Which is the wrong thing to do -- Liz and Kit generally do the wrong thing). I don't want to pick on a specific religious group. I also don't want to pick on religion in general, just certain elements/misinterpretations of it. Boozloaf isn't here to show "Oh them stupid religious people, look at how stupid they are." He's actually a nice guy and helpful, but a bit naive and easily taken advantage of. That's just him, there will be other Moomons and other religious types later who won't be that way. Booz is relatively young and full of optimistic zeal and good humor, I don't think of him as an expression of "what's wrong" with religious types. In fact I kinda think about him as expressing more about what's right about them. It'll be more clear later :D

EDIT: I don't say the above cos I'm worried about offending people. I mean, I highly doubt I'm going to get through this comic w/o offending anyone, and I'm not going to fret over it. The reason I don't want to "pick on religion" is because it seems kind of cliche, and unfair, and if I did so I'd just be showing my own ignorance. There's really no way to make fun of "religion" without coming across as having an incredibly shallow understanding of it. I understand that religious denominations and their principles are too varied and complex to just lump them all together in one easy to make fun of body. Besides, I'm not sure what the story would gain by making jabs at religion "for the lulz".

I can't leave religion or religious people out of the comic though. Religion and religious people are a very important part of how the West was established (Manifest Destiny), so they gotta be in it. But that doesn't give them immunity to criticism and jokes either. I won't go out of my way to jab at someone, and I won't make fun of someone because they're religious. I might make fun of them due to how they behave on an individual level but that's different. In other words, I'll be making fun of the tree, not the forest :)

I mainly wanted to point out Moomons aren't Mormons cos if I have them do something the Mormons wouldn't do, I don't want people to say "That's not what Mormons believe!" Moomons aren't Mormons and so they aren't going to share the same principles. If they do, it's a coincidence (in fact, they may not actually be polygamous. Liz could have just assumed so for whatever reason).

I think you're part of the joke!

now you've ruined my surprise guest appearance.

Note to Liz and Kat: Pokyamory is the answer! All the freedom, none of the Stupid Dogma! Err. Cowma.

Actually you did a marvelous job linking up various elements of the Mormon faith, and I doubt anyone believes you're going for a direct transplant anyway (see: Rule of Funny).

Boozloaf is interesting simply because with all the Mormon-esque references, they actually do send out the younger gentlemen (college-age usu.) to do missionary (moossionary?) work.

So far I like his character.

Irony question: Is Boozloaf a tea-totaller (no alcohol)?

Yeah, Boozloaf is a non-drinker. At least that's what I had planned for him :) It'll clash well with Kit, who is a heavy drinker.

Glad you're liking his character!

They are great characters and I love seeing a 'Taur who isn't a big dumb brute, or at best, a brute For Honor!

I would take more religions seriously if they had the capacity to tell bad jokes about themselves

Dear Tv Tropes Forum Peeps, I said I'm not making fun of Mormonism or the Mormons. If it sounds mean spirited, remember that it's Liz and Kit who are the ignorant ones here.

These TV Trope Forumites may not members of NPF though (and why not?! :D), and haven't read my post.

Anyway, if someone's a member on that site could they please clear it up? I thought about doing it myself, but... I dunno... seems kinda over-stepping my grounds or something.

EDIT: Nevermind, I made a post myself. I couldn't help it :P


I had a feeling this would happen, it's the price one pays for using Cow-Puns. I actually thought about calling them something besides "Moomons" for this reason :P

You realize you ate going to go through it all again when we meet the Cat-Holics

1) Assuming there ARE going to be Cat-Holics.
2) Assuming there are going to be cat-people.

EDIT: I mean, Matt said he's going to add whatever fantasy race he'd like, but still.