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Jagos 03-09-2011 08:51 PM

Consumer's Dilemma
 
If anyone knows my thoughts on piracy, it's basically to say that there is a lot more to piracy than saying someone steals your junk.

In the last 20 years, we've seen how copyright laws are used to stifle innovation, "protect an image", and promote far less than the progress of the arts and sciences.

So, I present a dilemma:

Quote:

US$8 for non-commercial use in high-income countries—a list that for the present purposes includes the USA, Western Europe, Japan, Australia, Israel, Singapore, and several of the Persian Gulf States (Kuwait, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Brunei, and Bahrain), but not Canada.
Free for non-commercial use outside the above-listed high-income countries.*
US$2000 for commercial use, defined as use by businesses that realize financial gain from film, music, software, or publishing, and/or the enforcement of copyrights thereof, with annual revenues greater than US$1 million. Volume licensing is available.
A softcover print edition is available for $27.95
So... Have you noticed the dillema yet? Give you a hint:

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Non-compliance with this license (or with appropriate fair use/fair dealing exceptions and limitations) is an act of piracy, subject to prosecution under applicable national law. For US residents, this includes criminal prosecution under the No Electronic Theft (NET) Act, punishable by up to five years in prison and $250,000 in fines per act of infringement.

For those who must have it for free anyway, you probably know where to look.
So right under this, I'll post another link. But what's interesting is what you choose to do.

In regards to the report, it's MASSIVE. 440 pages regarding piracy and I'm sure it can really change a few minds with what it has to say. But first, this is to gauge interest. Would people want to see this? Or has there been enough about piracy?

The report:

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Based on three years of work by some thirty-five researchers, Media Piracy in Emerging Economies tells two overarching stories: one tracing the explosive growth of piracy as digital technologies became cheap and ubiquitous around the world, and another following the growth of industry lobbies that have reshaped laws and law enforcement around copyright protection. The report argues that these efforts have largely failed, and that the problem of piracy is better conceived as a failure of affordable access to media in legal markets.

“The choice,” said Joe Karaganis, director of the project, “isn’t between high piracy and low piracy in most media markets. The choice, rather, is between high-piracy, high-price markets and high-piracy, low price markets. Our work shows that media businesses can survive in both environments, and that developing countries have a strong interest in promoting the latter. This problem has little to do with enforcement and a lot to do with fostering competition.”

Jagos 03-09-2011 08:52 PM

/reserved for second link to those interested

You're probably a pirate

stefan 03-09-2011 11:46 PM

so basically, your point is, "piracy is rampant because your shit ain't worth what you're asking for it."

this is only news to the kind of people who confuse potential dollars for actual dollars.

Jagos 03-10-2011 12:07 AM

+ rep for you. But there's a little more to it.

The researchers understand that the internet is an awesome place. So they told you where exactly you can go to get the goods if you want them. There's also a kind of unfairness in the price differentiation that goes on in thinking only Americans or high end societies should pay for a digital good.

I'll put up the second link now, for those interested. I've started reading the missive and it's really interesting in how it blasts old data as inaccurate along with giving a GREAT perspective of how piracy actually affects economies.

I do recommend it to all to at least skim through because it seems to touch on ethical arguments (Piracy is bad), economic arguments (it's costing us dollars), and any other argument that can eventually lead to better lawmaking.

Fenris 03-10-2011 08:48 AM

Jagos, if you do not start tagging your goddamn 8 million threads a day, I will take away your ability to make 8 million goddamn threads a day.

Jagos 03-10-2011 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenris (Post 1113875)
Jagos, if you do not start tagging your goddamn 8 million threads a day, I will take away your ability to make 8 million goddamn threads a day.

I DID tag this thread but it's kind of hard to tag it when it's a serious discussion about piracy.

Right next to support is a little tag regarding just a paper. Since this was a report, I figured that was exactly the one that would get the point across that hey, this is a report that should be interesting for others. I can't say it's necessarily a FUN report, because I've said it's pretty large. It doesn't really broker serious conversation, and it brooches a subject that very few people have anything other than emotional feeling about. If you want to claim I didn't use no icon, I'm saying that's a downright lie. But I did tag this thread with what I felt was the best out of the ones I saw.

bluestarultor 03-10-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jagos (Post 1113876)
I DID tag this thread but it's kind of hard to tag it when it's a serious discussion about piracy.

Right next to support is a little tag regarding just a paper. Since this was a report, I figured that was exactly the one that would get the point across that hey, this is a report that should be interesting for others. I can't say it's necessarily a FUN report, because I've said it's pretty large. It doesn't really broker serious conversation, and it brooches a subject that very few people have anything other than emotional feeling about. If you want to claim I didn't use no icon, I'm saying that's a downright lie. But I did tag this thread with what I felt was the best out of the ones I saw.

"Serious" tag. [/pottokettle]

Jagos 03-10-2011 10:46 AM

Blues, it wasn't about being overly serious about piracy. I explained that.

Fenris 03-10-2011 10:51 AM

<-this guy right here. The default thing.
 
That paper image has been left in for posts, as it is the default VBulletin tag, as well as for ancient threads so they have some sort of marker and don't break the forums.

If you are going to argue semantics at (not with) me, you will a) lose and b) lose.

You know goddamn what I mean when I say add a tag to your threads, stop pretending to be dumber than I think you are.

Jagos 03-10-2011 10:57 AM

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I take offense to that Fenris. I've wanted to comply with you asking me to create the tags and thought that was a legitimate tag. That is my fault and I admit that. But I'm sure as certain not sitting here "playing dumb" over something as small as a tag.


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