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Overcast 05-10-2011 11:15 PM

Above Political Correctness
 
So I had the fun of reading the little scene that got our very own Nonsie a 10 day absence, and while stirring up the scenario is likely going to be frowned upon I would really enjoy asking people out loud a question about why people decide to react to strongly to how people word certain things.

The thing is to me it isn't the word that will offend me. The word is just a word, and sometimes the offense tied to it can be the source of some pretty funny jokes. In all honesty if the usage of these words are, if converted in my head into PC words is still inherently true, e.g. "OC, you are such a fucking fag." = "OC the way you worded that last phrase was incredibly homosexual." then I won't really care they used non PC language. In the last thread the word abnormal was used, but honestly I am abnormal as far as societal norms is concerned. The question was if it was being referred to as a bad thing, which I don't think it was. But when you are trying to demean me then I'll feel it, e.g. "God hates fags." = "You are not human."

The key is, you don't need to be using non-PC language to offend me, real ignorance and bad intentions are more than enough. Like when someone told me they felt sorry that I had to be born this way. Like I have some kind of major fucking handicap just because I like dudes.

We all have the power to be above political correctness if we have the ability to look past the words people are using and into the intention of their words.

Hopefully I won't be banned for beating a dead horse.

Fifthfiend 05-10-2011 11:44 PM

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So I had the fun of reading the little scene that got our very own Nonsie a 10 day absence, and while stirring up the scenario is likely going to be frowned upon I would really enjoy asking people out loud a question about why people decide to react strongly to how people word certain things.
Nope.

If you're looking for answers, try not starting with thoughtless, condescending bad-faith questions.

Krylo 05-10-2011 11:46 PM

Actually, simple psychology says that OC is entirely correct in that it is you who decides how to react to what people say and do in your presence. Indeed, it's one of the primary things used in couple's counseling and anger counseling. One has to release the idea that what someone else does makes them angry, and instead embrace the idea that they get angry when someone does something.

It sounds like silly semantics, but it makes measured dialogue easier without blaming, and presents a sense of agency in the offended party when they embrace the idea that it is they who are in charge of their reactions, and not everyone else.

Overcast 05-10-2011 11:47 PM

Was good seeing you too sexual chocolate.

Fifthfiend 05-10-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Overcast (Post 1125912)
Was good seeing you too sexual chocolate.

Thank you for confirming my original impression of the intent of your OP.

Overcast 05-10-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend (Post 1125915)
Thank you for confirming my original impression of the intent of your OP.

To clarify the last time I said that was when you entered my audiophilia thread with a single gif and didn't bother even making much of a point. Here you decided to do the same, refusing to respond to the rest of my post and singling out something as a reason why I shouldn't be allowed to state my opinions. In both situations you are speaking to my blunt honesty as if that is reason enough not to talk to me.

I am being condescending because I find the fact that people do react that way as idiotic, I know that was what I was saying. If you are going to shut me down do more than just bold something and say no one should respond to this.

At the very least debunk my whole fucking idea.

akaSM 05-10-2011 11:56 PM

One of the problems with PC and people reacting bad to certain words is that, everyone will have different reactions.

For example, when I was at the hospital, there was a female resident doctor who got mad at me for saying "tú" instead of "usted". Seriously, that crazy woman was acting as if I had insulted her O_o. Oh, and that was because she didn't write my name right (I didn't tell her though, another hospital worker did)...Mario isn't that hard to write, is it? >_>

BTW, "tú" is basically "you"; "usted" is a more formal way of saying "you".

Overcast 05-10-2011 11:59 PM

So it was like the Spanish version of me calling a doctor miss instead of their earned title?

rpgdemon 05-11-2011 12:00 AM

People get really mad about tu versus usted, which is really dumb. I heard about some dude who was in France, buying some train tickets, used tu, and the dude slammed the ticket window shut in his face, and was all, "JE NE SUIS PAS TON AMI!"

akaSM 05-11-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Overcast (Post 1125920)
So it was like the Spanish version of me calling a doctor miss instead of their earned title?

Nope, I didn't "take" any merits from her. Think of it as calling someone "miss" instead of "lady"...except the difference between "tú" and "usted" is narrower :/


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