We now have NO 4th Amendment...
 

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That's right, our constitution says if you have a badge, you need to get into a house by a court approved warrant.

Now, that's not the case.

Read the story, understand that I can barely think on this. The one person who had a dissent is the only one to make sense. Everyone else, they're just idiots or cronies for an ever expanding federal government.

Land of the Free my...

I'm sorry, but that sounds like probable cause to me. Let's say you're a cop and you go to knock on a drug dealers door and you hear screaming inside. So you're not gonna knock that door down to see if there's a problem?
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Yeah, I have to admit that sounds like probable cause to me as well.

I will admit though that there is a gray area when it comes to what constitutes probable cause. What seems like reason to go marching through that door to one man may seem benign to another. There's no way to be a hundred percent sure on these things so it boils down to an officer's discretion.

Patriot Act already did this, just now it applies to all minorities and the poor instead of just brown people

Guys, a warrant could take like 5 minutes to get. The police made all the noises. There's no proof that the defendants in the case were looking to block them from coming in or destroying evidence.

That is far better than the alternative of anything becoming an "extenuating circumstance".

key phrase "suspected drug dealer’s"

So, it does NOT apply to everyone, anyone, at any time. If you believe that all states of Police force and action are automatically corrupt and never benign than your complaint doesn't stick, cause you never believed there WAS a 4th amendment. If that's not the case, then you must be able to understand that if a cop has REAL reason and evidence to suspect that you or anybody else is a drug dealer, than this can make sense in certain cases.

On the other hand, there are laws against abuse of Authority that applies to exactly such cases when a cop take actions like this WITHOUT a real reason to do so.

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A real one? Not, it does not. Also, you can't request one without a real reason and "I think it's a good idea" it's not a good reason, because the guy that signs the warrant becomes liable to the consequences of those who Apply the warrant... and it's not like there are a whole bunch of fat cats wanting to put their asses on the line to favor a bunch of "hunches" "gut feelings" and "not racism, i swear!"

...So, it shouldn't require a warrant, so they don't need to have someone give them permission for the "Hunches" "Gut feelings" and "Not Racism, I Swear?" You'd think that layer was put in place for a reason. Like, not kicking in your asshole neighbor's door because "his place stinks of pot and totally not because his dog keeps shitting on my lawn"?

Like I said, serious discretion needs to be used when it comes to probable cause. And the situations in which someone has to go off of that need to be investigate under a fine lens.

Police actually bluff their way around search warrants all the time. It takes alot to get one and police try to catch people as soon as possible.

For example, police cant actually make you step out of your vehicle when you are pulled over. Without probably cause they cant make you get out, search your car, or ask you to show them anything besides license registration and proof of insurance. But I bet if you got pulled over and he asked you to get out you'd do so without a second thought. Police officer knows this and uses this to hopefully find additional illegal activities.

Not saying this is inherently wrong either because warrants are on the otherside of a bureaucratic nightmare. Honestly I think redefining requirements for a warrant or some kind of limited version would better serve us then finding ways around it.