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Kim 05-19-2011 09:29 PM

Plus, you still are able to salvage your data with a USB cord and a storage device, whereas most instances of what people call bricking makes that rather difficult, AFAIK.

Marc v4.0 05-19-2011 09:29 PM

Using bricked to mean simply 'broken' is misleading

Fenris 05-19-2011 09:30 PM

Full circle like what
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc v1.0 (Post 1128039)
Using bricked to mean simply 'broken' is misleading

Your opinion is noted.

Still seems like splitting hairs to me!

Kim 05-19-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenris (Post 1128040)
Your opinion is noted.

Still seems like splitting hairs to me!

This feels rather the equivalent of calling my computer bricked because the mouse doesn't work, even though I still have a trackpad, is all I'm saying, and if someone told me that qualified my laptop as being bricked I'd give them one hell of a raised eyebrow look.

Seil 05-19-2011 09:34 PM

Just so 'M clear, is this a case of semantics, he said/she/said or Po-tay-to/Po-tah-to?

Fenris 05-19-2011 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NonCon (Post 1128041)
This feels rather the equivalent of calling my computer bricked because the mouse doesn't work, even though I still have a trackpad, is all I'm saying, and if someone told me that qualified my laptop as being bricked I'd give them one hell of a raised eyebrow look.

The mouse is a separate entity from (and not the primary purpose of) the laptop, so your analogy is pretty poor.

And this whole discussion seems to go in this thread.

Quote:

Just so 'M clear, is this a case of semantics, he said/she/said or Po-tay-to/Po-tah-to?
Semantics.

Marc v4.0 05-19-2011 09:39 PM

This just in: Definitions are just opinions.
 
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Originally Posted by Fenris (Post 1128040)
Your opinion is noted.

Fantastic

Fenris 05-19-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc v1.0 (Post 1128045)
This just in: Definitions are just opinions.

Fantastic

Cite a source and it will gain credibility.

I mean, I could say my definition of "Marc v1.0" is "huge asshole" but that doesn't make me right, unless I can cite a credible source that also defines "Marc v1.0" as "huge asshole."

Nikose Tyris 05-19-2011 09:42 PM

Definition:
In the strictest sense of the term, bricking must imply that software error has rendered the device completely unrecoverable without some hardware replacement. However, it is common to use the term for a problem which can be rectified but only by a complex and difficult procedure, often requiring additional software.

Thus while Marc/Nonsy are correct in the strictest sense of the term, Fenris is viewing it in it's wider definition- as something that is completely inoperable would be unable to receive a new software update period to fix it.

We agree a thing needs to have the ability to power on and check wifi, at least, to update? for the most part? We're good with that?

Seil 05-19-2011 09:44 PM

Guys, chill. You're arguin' over semantics. Sematics aren't real - it's just a silly made up word that English profs use to force students to write papers on junk.

Let it go, guys.


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