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Aerozord 06-11-2011 05:50 PM

as you said business answer is obvious, but there is another reason, for the most part the people running these companies are comic nerds themselves and the fact they are comic nerds means they are ok with overly convoluted continuity. Alot of the people deciding what gets green lit, want this stuff to happen

POS Industries 06-11-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bells (Post 1133922)
Can anyone tell me why do we actually need So many Titles starring batman? They all happen in the same World/Time Line and any big events to goes off in one has to reflect in all the others... so why the hell do i need all these Batman comics if they are all the same?

I think the idea was that, with Dick Grayson having taken over as Batman while Bruce as "dead" and DC's plan to originally have him stay in the role, "Batman" and "Batman and Robin" were going to be Dickbat books while "Batman: The Dark Knight" and "Batman, Inc." where going to be Brucebat books, and Batwoman had actually taken over as the main character for "Detective Comics." Meanwhile, "Superman/Batman" was mostly just a vehicle for random fun stories that weren't intended to fit into the overall story arcs of the greater DCU.

Of course, with Dick going back to being Nightwing and Bruce I guess taking over all the books (all of them), it's just plain ridiculous.

Also, I'm gonna go ahead and merge this thread with the "Fuck DC" thread because, well, fuck DC.

Magus 06-11-2011 06:10 PM

Well ostensibly at least some of the Batman characters are interesting enough to have their own spin-off series, like Catwoman or Batwoman...it's not that there are 12 (though one could argue the necessity of a Red Hood comic or a separate Batman and Robin comic), it's that they make the plots crossover that is annoying to me. If somebody's really that big a fan of Nightwing (why I dunno, but anyway) they can get the Nightwing comic, I just don't feel if I'm reading Batman I should have to also buy Nightwing, Batwoman, Red Hood, Batman and Robin, etc. to get the full story. Everything should be partitioned 95% of the time. Instead every other month they were doing "crossovers" between those series, starting with Hush then moving into Batman RIP, etc.

One could argue why they think all the side Batman characters are interesting enough to pull their own series, but apparently they sell enough to make them worthwhile. It's just this crossover stuff that should stop. If they want Nightwing to be in this month's Batman, that's fine, but I shouldn't have to also know what's been going on in Nightwing comics for the past year to know what's going on.

EDIT: I'm kind of on the fence about Detective Comics, since from what I could tell the Batwoman/Question mash-up issues kind of helped them develop Batwoman at least into an interesting modern version of the character to the point where they can sell enough copies of a separate Batwoman comic to make it worthwhile. Basically, if they use Detective Comics for introducing and experimenting with new characters to the Batman universe, that would be dandy. If it's just another Batman story every month though it's pretty pointless (especially since they are keeping Batman: The Dark Knight, for some reason).

Jagos 06-11-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Archbio (Post 1133917)
Lets not say things we can't take back.

Hey, that guy is awesome!

I still think Clerks 2 was pretty damn funny. If you ever look at his stand up, the guy can really talk for hours and make it entertaining.

OT: I'm beginning to wonder if this:
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as you said business answer is obvious, but there is another reason, for the most part the people running these companies are comic nerds themselves and the fact they are comic nerds means they are ok with overly convoluted continuity. Alot of the people deciding what gets green lit, want this stuff to happen
Is a necessary process... Why not just someone make a new damn character that's similar and tell a story?

Fifthfiend 06-11-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by POS Industries (Post 1133935)
Also, I'm gonna go ahead and merge this thread with the "Fuck DC" thread because, well, fuck DC.

But it was such a great application of the Warbot thread tag.

POS Industries 06-11-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend (Post 1133960)
But it was such a great application of the Warbot thread tag.

It was.

Also, because of the time warp happening during this thread, I can't seem to change the tag or title.

Fifthfiend 06-11-2011 07:55 PM

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Archbio 06-11-2011 09:11 PM

I don't think it's fair to lay the reboot mania at the feet of too big (or too little) a concern for continuity. It's more a form of sacred stasis.

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Originally Posted by Jagos
Hey, that guy is awesome!

I still think Clerks 2 was pretty damn funny. If you ever look at his stand up, the guy can really talk for hours and make it entertaining.

Well, parlaying an inability to think of a fight that could happen at the North Pole in a Superman movie into a paying audience does somewhat inspire awe.

stefan 06-11-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend (Post 1133914)
...and if Geoff Johns hadn't just done the worst, dumbest change to Swamp Thing that it was possible to make to Swamp Thing.

I haven't read much of swamp thing aside from Moore's work. how did Johns fuck up this time?

Fifthfiend 06-12-2011 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by stefan (Post 1133990)
I haven't read much of swamp thing aside from Moore's work. how did Johns fuck up this time?

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2938965.html

The all-new Swamp Thing is... ALEC HOLLAND


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