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synkr0nized 06-01-2011 12:05 AM

may not be as funny in its intended form
 
Reading this thread with everything out of order is kind of amazing.

Seil 06-01-2011 12:10 AM

Call it a "deal with the Devil."

Aerozord 06-01-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Seil (Post 1131350)

now THATS perspective

A Zarkin' Frood 06-01-2011 05:18 AM

Uh... DC... why don't you kill these fucking superhero fossils off already?

As long as you let Grant Morrison write for you everything that ever happened will be canon anyway, even if it doesn't make any sense. Because at least I won't have to guess what happened in the past now and what not. It's fine when Morrison does it, though. Because for some reason he can write really really good.

Aside from whatever the hell Morrison does a reboot is much better than letting that mess that is the DC Universe as it is live on. Who knows? Maybe I'll even pick up one of those books. I'd much rather see DC give up it's random superheroes and the fucking DCU completely, though and focus on, dunno... new original stuff? How about that? More writer owned stuff? Or at least stuff where they get full creative control. I'd be all for that.

Arhra 06-01-2011 05:32 AM

Hey wait a moment, you mean they're just going "Hey guys, we're doing a reset" instead of inventing some stupid crossover plot tangle whatsit that is going to CHANGE THINGS FOREVER which really involves halfassedly changing a few things back to the way they were and making whatever passes for continuity in comics even more inbred?

And this is a bad thing?

EDIT: Oh wait, so it is some big event whatsit? Kinda jeopardises chances of a clean reboot by doing that. Eh, it's not like I really read comics anyway.

Revising Ocelot 06-01-2011 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by synkr0nized (Post 1131346)
Reading this thread with everything out of order is kind of amazing.

I echo the concerns of Red Tahoma. Did some funky time travelling posts get spliced around?

Sky Warrior Bob 06-01-2011 06:53 AM

Didn't Marvel claim they were doing this with the Ultimate line of comics? Not producing anything but Ultimate, until they switched back to the older series?

Or am I just getting my memories wrong again?

As for DC, I figure they'll make the change & find out nobody likes them anymore. Then change most of the stuff back. Maybe.

Not that it matters to me. I like some of the stories that come from the comics originally, but I'm not an avid reader, so every time I pick up a single issue of anything, I'm utterly lost.

So as long as cartoons & movies are uneffected, I don't think I care much.

Osterbaum 06-01-2011 07:51 AM

As someone who hasn never intensively read DC's or any other company's long standing series but maybe like to, I see some potential in this. Maybe now I'll be able to get into some comic series without having to instantly feel like I need to familiriaze myself with a vast universe and it's lore.

Fifthfiend 06-01-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Osterbaum (Post 1131425)
As someone who hasn never intensively read DC's or any other company's long standing series but maybe like to, I see some potential in this. Maybe now I'll be able to get into some comic series without having to instantly feel like I need to familiriaze myself with a vast universe and it's lore.

Hahahahahaha no you totally still will. It's a "soft reboot" so they're totally keeping random bits and pieces of the various characters' legacies and backstories while getting rid of randomly selected other things and alternately grafting on entirely new bits of backstory that nobody will know anything about because they'll just have been invented.

It's the kind of super-sharp sure-fire comic book company business move where you leave all the current readers adrift and not knowing what's going on, while at the same time ensuring that new readers can't make any more sense of anything than they ever have.

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Originally Posted by Arhra (Post 1131401)
inventing some stupid crossover plot tangle whatsit that is going to CHANGE THINGS FOREVER which really involves halfassedly changing a few things back to the way they were and making whatever passes for continuity in comics even more inbred?

This is more or less exactly what they're doing.

Fifthfiend 06-01-2011 12:07 PM

Like the last time DC decided to do one of these Big Jumping On Points for Nu Reedurz, you pretty much got stuff like... Robin, aka Tim Drake, finding out that Batgirl, aka Cassandra Cain, had started hunting down and murdering her sisters as part of her revenge plot against her dad, and had also become obsessed with fucking the shit out of Robin and convincing him to join her craaaaaaazy evil scheme. While Dick Grayson, Nightwing, became a serial killer, who turned out to be Jason Todd, Nightwing, who Dick Grayson, Nightwing punched until he, Jason Todd, turned out to actually be a huge purple pile of ooze.

Depending how much you know/care about any of these characters, that all makes you so furiously mad you can barely see straight, and/or makes no earthly sense to you whatsoever.

Congratulations, you've just experienced a Jumping On Point for New Readers. Now go buy Atomic Robo or something that won't pull this kind of shit on you.


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