PS Vita is gonna be region free omg omg omg omg omg omg omg

Damn Snake. As critical remarks go that's a pretty harmless one to get set off by like that.

Don't accuse people of trolling, either. Report and ignore. Replying to a genuine troll post is just about the least productive way to handle it.



on topic: Assassin's Creed for WiiU is set to use the controller screen for maps and inventory and eagle vision. So that's good! This might end up the default use for any game that features an alternative view mode, and I have no objections.

Really can't wait for those terms to go out of style...
 

I've just noticed a few mentions of graphical details, presented in a context that they carried a fair degree of weight. On top of throwing around terms like "Hardcore" and "Casual", I am a bit curious as to what really makes it or breaks it, really, for you. The Skyrim thing seemed to be a bit weird to me, it stood out as Morrowind and Oblivion are fantastic games(Morrowind generally is considered better but I had more immediate fun with Oblivion) and the way it was said made it seem like you hadn't considered them for play because of their looks.

I could have been much more elaborate to begin with, but it was 4:25am and I had been up for a total of 15 minutes. Still, just cause you don't like the wording doesn't mean I'm trying to troll you or attack you. Jesus.

It wasn't the graphics that bothered me with Morrowind or Oblivion, it was their storylines, or more appropriately their lack of what I interpreted to be a cohesive narrative framework.

You could say that I think Skyrim looks so gorgeous graphically that I'm suddenly curious as to whether Elder Scrolls has overcome its narrative faults, because if it had and if NPCs acted more like living breathing entities and there was an overarching plot I'd be quite excited for the title.

I know that NonCon knows I'm really into stories and character development and well-fleshed personalities in my videogames because we IM each other about our videogame preferences all the time, and it's a preference I've also articulated frequently in other NPF topics. So I (correctly) surmised that I didn't really need to go into thorough detail regarding my perspective in order for NonCon to understand what I was asking him, and he basically told me exactly what I wanted to know.

I'm just not sure how you'd interpret my perspective on a single game as representative of my viewpoints of an entire medium, and then feel it was appropriate to insinuate I only cared about graphics in all videogames, when even a cursory search would disavow you of that perspective. It was unnecessarily antagonistic wording at best.

How long you've been awake has absolutely no bearing on anything.

This whole situation is just akin to the following hypothetical:
I say: "The new series of Atomic Robo comics looks amazing, they're so well-drawn."
And then you respond with: "You've been talking up the artwork in graphic comics so much, you must be illiterate and incapable of appreciating classical novels."

And I maintain that it's just plain wrong, regardless of your intent, to transform an offhand comment of praise for a product into a stinging criticism of a person. NPF accepts subtle shifts into ad hominem territory far too often, and generally speaking, it just shouldn't happen much at all.

Morrowind has an amazing over-reaching story that was much better then many games I've played since.

...Oblivion was pretty.

It has a very clear and direct bearing on if I am currently awake enough to express my point properly

Ya know, you are an OK guy and everything, but this hard-on you have for being the victim that no one likes is actually making me not like you.

Anyone should be held responsible for the content of their posts regardless of how tired or alert they are.
No one would say that I was immune from being reprimanded if I insulted folks when I was 'drunk' or 'depressed' or 'tired.'


Oh hey, look, more personalized ad hominem crap.
Your comment would seem to make it even less believable that you didn't intend to upset me in the first place, wouldn't it? Because apparently you believed from the start that I had a 'hard-on for being the victim' but then deliberately chose an antagonistic ad hominem way to criticize my praise of Skyrim anyway.

Yes, everyone should be held accountable for trolling or being a dick on purpose or any other infraction of the rules.

I wasn't. My post were poorly worded because I was just waking up. I shouldn't be held responsible because YOU decided that I was trolling and then also decided to throw out my explaination that "No, I was barely awake and wasn't as clear as I wanted to be" because you are just convinced I was being a dick.

It really isn't ad hominem If you have demonstrated a tendancy to add words to peoples posts or claim personal attacks that didn't happen.

However, it DOES color my interactions with you. I try to avoid being critical of you at all because I don't want to get dragged in to shit like this, and in my sleepy haze I completely forgot that. I'm sorry, I won't make that mistake again.

Read my initial response again. I didn't 'decide you were trolling.' I delineated that you trolling me was a possible explanation for your actions, but I articulated the possibility that you simply chose exceptionally poor wording as well. And more importantly, I explained the issues I had with your 'poorly worded' post, which are equally relevant articulations regardless of whether you merely worded your thoughts poorly or you had something more sinister in mind.

If everyone here thinks so poorly of me that any objection I make to an offensive or unnecessarily hostile criticism made is automatically and inherently countered by the 'presumed tendency' of my personality type, then that's really a sign that I should leave this community because I've lost every case and controversy before they've even begun.

It's also a circular argument, a self-fulfilling prophecy: The more I react to criticism the more you dislike me, the more you dislike me the more you insult and criticize me, the more you criticize me the more I react to the criticism.

But that's beside the point. What bothers me is that I can't even praise a videogame here at NPF without being personally attacked for it, and you think that's an unreasonable concern? You can't really say that this is all just a byproduct of my thin skin when I've been a member of a several online communities and never run into knee-jerk personal critiques that severe.

You weren't personally attacked for praising a game! It was a question of pure curiosity. You took it as a personal attack and you kept taking at a personal attack even when I have said it wasn't meant to be at all.

Snake I'd like to see you make an active effort to not treat every bit of criticism directed at you as a deathly insult towards your person that is specifically engineered to drive you off the forum forever. Because that is what you do, intentionally or not, and you regularly absolutely refuse to let go of that idea once you've got it in your head no matter what anyone says. Mostly because whenever someone tries to explain that to you you also treat it as a personal attack. Whether it's someone mentioning "your walls of pink text" and you spinning that into "'horrible pink walls of text' that you hate so much because you apparently think I'm Satan incarnate," or whether it's Marc asking a very slightly critical question that you treat as if he'd called you illiterate, it happens a lot.

Back to E3 news and discussion now, let's take any further input on this to PMs.