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Gunner11B 05-25-2004 09:05 PM

Any ideas????
 
I work on flash and I'm right now having trouble having insperation. I though a bunch Of final fantasy freaks, I MEAN people would have tons of imagination so if you got any ideas post them.

videogamerz2000 05-25-2004 09:08 PM

How about this. Two innocent characters (make them of evil decent) are picking on two other characters for lunch money. Then, a few other characters come and a melee/battle happens.

Jack of Spades 05-25-2004 09:30 PM

Dancing astronauts in pink spacesuits with bunny ears...wait that's a mini moni video.

Drunk Ninjas

Inbred chocobo races (you know you inbred them!)

A barrel full of dead monkeys...it may not be funny but I bet you're snickering

Martyr 05-25-2004 09:42 PM

Dude, you gotta give us a hint.

Joseph Pandora 05-25-2004 09:55 PM

I concur with said statment about hint.
A general direction that you want to go in.

videogamerz2000 05-25-2004 09:57 PM

How about the day in the life of a farmer.
Or how about an imitation of us talking here.
How about someone telling a joke? A pun?
Maybe you could create the end of the world using a belt, a milk can and a pipe?

Illuminatus 05-25-2004 11:29 PM

Ok, so here's the deal. This guy comes up, says something to the other guy. THe other guy retorts comedically, illiciting yet another scathing, yet humorous retort. Then follow up with a random FF, or video game cameo, then add in some more comedic dialogue.

It's bound to be great.

TheSpiritOfVengance 05-26-2004 12:23 AM

Hobos fighting with pool sticks over a bottle of Jack. Its an instant classic.

Jack of Spades 05-26-2004 10:47 AM

I like the idea of you animating this conversation. A bunch of people in weird costumes with weird names talking about the forums.
You could find an old thread hat was funny and pick like 4 people to animate. If you use me I want a hat(pointy like RM's) and a cape...please?
http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=3507 c'mon it's funny!

Osterbaum 05-26-2004 10:56 AM

Animate a conversation taken from the forums...That's good.

Inbred Chocobo 05-26-2004 11:00 AM

Dude, you have to go with that. That would rock. Though if I'm in it, i would want to be like my Avatar.

Jack of Spades 05-26-2004 08:22 PM

When you finish this project could you post it somewhere so we can see it? Now that I've put in my input I wanna see what it ends up as.

Or you could animate another 8-bit comic...pick a later one instead of the first ones. Maybe after they get the Armoir of Invincibility and then fight the purple thing that eats Blackbelt.

froofmyster 05-26-2004 08:44 PM

How about... have you seen the movie "Trekies"? Kinda like that only with FF Freaks. Basicaly, have a bunch of people talking about/immitating various FF games. Example: One of them wears sunglasses and says "Don't cry" (Auron), another one says something like: "So I was thinking... magic swords." (Steiner) "I dreamt I was a moron" (Squall), "Looks to me like a big, shiny, golden wire of hope!" (Barret), and have some jackass who keeps singing segments from One Winged Angel (anybody with half a brain will click that link. It ROCKS!).

videogamerz2000 05-26-2004 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by froofmyster
Have some jackass who keeps singing segments from One Winged Angel (anybody with half a brain will click that link. It ROCKS!).

I own that CD. I also made a music video about that song in Video class. I'll see if I can get it on here. Although, I highly doubt it.

CHICAGO¤lollie 05-26-2004 09:29 PM

I plan to click that link. And I shall.
Later, when I'm not at school, which has computers that are not worthy of being called computers, but enough of that.

Now!
Ideas for an animation, huh?

I like the idea Osterbaum posted ("Animate a conversation taken from the forums..."), and believe it would be great if pulled off correctly.


Which conversation to animate, though, that's another question.

Gunner11B 05-26-2004 09:34 PM

WOW! just saw all the replies. Thx for answearing and keep those ideas coming becouse I might just use it and give you credit. :D

videogamerz2000 05-26-2004 09:40 PM

Maybe he should animate Battle Royal. HA! Good luck with that one. Or how about 5 minute poetry. It would take a while though.

IHateMakingNames 05-26-2004 09:44 PM

Have an entire animation of bad jokes.

"Two guys walk into a bar"
*Shows to guys walking into a metal bar*
"The third one ducked"
*Shows the third guy ducking*

"How do you stop a clown from laughing?"
*Shows a laughing clown*
"Hit it in the face with an axe."
*Have an axe go into the clowns face*

TheSpiritOfVengance 05-26-2004 09:45 PM

Hey if you want why not use one of the Battle Royal Conversations or possibly one of the RPs. Maybe using a representation of the people and the avatars or something...

EDIT 800 postkabibbles

Gunner11B 05-26-2004 09:57 PM

hmmmm. I should have said this in the begging when I made this thread but, Final Fantasy ideas are better for me. I've played them all so that would be best. Battle Royal?? What the heck is that??

Martyr 05-26-2004 10:49 PM

Do another FF1 comic.

I'm truly sick of everybody imitating evil BM and Sword-Chuck Fighter.
Make up some new characters, make a new and original thing, separate from the ultrapowerful 8-bit regime.

Of course, you'll have to do an outstanding job. You have majority against you, and, lets face it, 8-Bit is a dang good comic.
But some competition would be rather cool.
Besides, I really like Final Fantasy. I want more sites referring to it. Instead of 7 (Good God! 7!)

So you have my thought on it. Utilize FF1.

(Also, everybody is so gung ho on all the other FFs. Despite 8-Bit, FF1 still turns out to be a more original idea. Or maybe you should shoot for FF2j?)

Edit: It just ocurred to me that you may want creative inspiration.
Well, uh, how the heck are you supposed to succeed if you can't even start. No. I'm not giving you any ideas.

TheSpiritOfVengance 05-27-2004 12:08 AM

IF your gonna do FF do somethign that nobody has done before...

Gunner11B 05-27-2004 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martyr
Do another FF1 comic.
Of course, you'll have to do an outstanding job. You have majority against you, and, lets face it, 8-Bit is a dang good comic.
But some competition would be rather cool.
Besides, I really like Final Fantasy. I want more sites referring to it. Instead of 7 (Good God! 7!)

So you have my thought on it. Utilize FF1.

(Also, everybody is so gung ho on all the other FFs. Despite 8-Bit, FF1 still turns out to be a more original idea. Or maybe you should shoot for FF2j?)

Edit: It just ocurred to me that you may want creative inspiration.
Well, uh, how the heck are you supposed to succeed if you can't even start. No. I'm not giving you any ideas.

First, for your first quote you might want to go to www.chaostemple.net if you want a somewhat new ff1 comic thing. Now, second I just wanted to see if anyone would have any better ideas that dosent come from my crazy head.

Now for that one website i refered, I wanted to make a bunch of movies about it but it just started and dosent have many comics so really couldnt. Its pretty different from 8-bit theater so I thought it was good. So I'm just waiting for the creator to get to 30 comics.

Martyr 05-27-2004 08:58 PM

Er, dude... It ain't much different from 8-Bit.
We got a sadistic black mage who wants the WM. We have the stupid Fighter. An annoying RM, and a witty, cocky ass thief who, basically, he plays the 8-Bit BB roll, except he isn't necessarilly stupid.
Already, these characters are fully developed because the writer knows that webcomic readers read 8-bit. This gets rid of a lot of work, and it trashes a whole lot more credibility.
This isn't new or original. This is used up.
AND, if these characters are going to change and become original, it was a foolish idea to start them off as 8-bit offspring.

The only thing about the comic that really breaks away from 8-Bit is the Van Gogh. I don't recall Brian using the same Van Gogh painting for all of his backgrounds.

Otherwise, there's a lot of FF1 info that seems to be ripped from FF Classics and then uses the Origins graphics.

It's not impressive. Not to me.

So, I challenge you to use some creativity and make an FF1 based comic that doesn't steal 80% (Or more) from 8-Bit.
That is, of course, if you're preparing to do your own thing. I don't know exactly what role you're playing here, but it seems like you're already involved with Chaos Temple. My advice is that you defect now.

Note: I almost forgot. The Temple music in FF1 is totally awesome. Both temples, in fact. And the water shrine. And lots more. I am absolutely infatuated with FF1 music. And I only know the nes versions!

Edit: You could have a flash where they're all dancing to their music...
Look, don't stone me. I never claimed to be a comedian.

froofmyster 05-27-2004 10:14 PM

Gunner 11B, I'm not sure if I should give you large wads of cash to thank you for all the advertising or give you even more cash for those guest comics.

Martyr, if you read on, Black Mage makes peace with White Mage. Later in the series you'll learn that Black Mage isn't all that evil, Thief will be usefull. I admit to having started them off as 8-BT characters, just to have something to start with. I wanted to put starry night to get people to expect a love scene between the two mages. The reason the background is the same is because they haven't moved. I don't know about anybody else, but I quite enjoy hurting Red Mage, which is why he did not join them. I also quite enjoyed using the Monty Python spanish inquisition sketch. Keep your pants on, I'll try to diverge my comic from 8-BT, it's been my goal from the start. In english: I ACCEPT YOUR CHALLENGE! And I'M the writer/creator/basicaly-everything-since-my-colleague-never-helps-out of Chaos Temple. ME. I am Webmaster Garland, which raises further question: How will the fight with Garland go? I'm not about to let myself be wounded by my own characters!

Thank you for your music commentary. I love the origins version of the Chaos Temple theme, but I couldn't get the origins music. Poop.

Thank you for the advice!

EDIT: Gunner, if you want to do a flash of my comics, do 1-14, not icluding guest strips and filler. 30 is 16 strips away and I've hit another writters block. Maybe I'll have some fun with Blue Mage.

Dragonsbane 05-27-2004 11:04 PM

Y'know....you could make a movie in which a powerful Black Wizard called "Dragonsbane" defeats every FF hero ever in an epic battle involving lots of magic and cool music.......Dragonsbane should look exactly like my avatar, and be able to blow up entire planets! *is NOT blatantly using other people to produce cool movies about himself!*

on a more serious note, froofmyster, does the Garland in your comic have an expensive and rare tropical fish which, coincidentally, happens to taste very good after getting the business end of a Firaga spell?

Gunner11B 05-27-2004 11:10 PM

Froomyster Ill do that but I'd like it if more people knew about the site before I make the flash video so that people know what the heck I'm doing. I think it can be pretty good with the vision I have in my mind. and you can do one of the voices for the movie if its possible for you(I call fighter) and I'll give you most of the credit for the idea.

and dragonbane, your idea gives me great insperation but the fact is who has ever heard of a black, black mage?? (hehe blow up planetes)

Dragonsbane 05-27-2004 11:15 PM

it's an Ultra-black mage! Or a Black Archwizard.

Gunner11B 05-27-2004 11:20 PM

I have no idea why but that is probably the 2nd best idea on this thread yet. Something tells me this can be cool with all the explosions I can put in it. Just for your enjoyment I'll make a small version of what you might want. Just give me sprites. For now im just gonna wait for froofmyster to get more people on his site then ill make the flash movie thats based on his comics.

froofmyster 05-27-2004 11:29 PM

Well, by making a flash, you'd be getting me more publicity. We can work together on it. Not in person, of course. Have you seen my first completed flash? It's on the thread entitled "my first completed flash" in the animation section.

Gunner11B 05-27-2004 11:39 PM

LOL. Thats pretty good. I just wonder how that subway looked so good when it was so small. O well. Just a tad fast paced though. Though for my flash animation im planning on doing the works. Like a button to start it, God those are hard to do. and credits and MUSIC. Its gonna be hard scince I just got flash from my dad(he got it for FREE) like 2 months ago so im still learning but learned alot in that time.

froofmyster 05-27-2004 11:45 PM

Leave music to me, please. Why? Because:
A) MY COMIC, MY RULES!
B) See letter A.

I'm happy you can make buttons, cause I sure can't. Can you make preloaders?

I got Flash about the same as you did. It seems are skills hane develloped equall but in different fields. In english: We can help each other out.

Gunner11B 05-27-2004 11:52 PM

Good becouse I still dont know alot of things and ya i can make a small mini animation While it loads as a preloader. But i cant make that bar that tells you how much it has loaded. for that im planning on just making a text that says "click button when you think its ready," and as for helping each other... The fact you live in Cannada and the fact I live in California makes it kind of tough but like you said not in person.

Dragonsbane 05-28-2004 12:17 AM

Ah...........the wonders of the Internet........that people across the world can share ideas and thoughts, working together on such projects to increase international cooperation to promote world peace...*scribbles on a piece of paper* Note to self: Conquer the Internet.....THEN the World should fall fairly easily!

Thaumaturge 05-28-2004 04:37 AM

Alright, I like Dragonsbane's idea. But here's how it ends: A Thaumaturge survives,
reaches the Black Wizard, and in a mighty duel of magic, defeats him.

What?

I like it.

Alright, how about the story of what happened immediately after FF1?

Note to self: Wait for Dragonsbane to conquer the Internet and then the world, then deal with Dragonsbane. With the world already conquered, I should have power in no time

Osterbaum 05-28-2004 06:23 AM

Quote:

Or how about 5 minute poetry.
Now there's an idea that I like!

Lord Hisstor 05-28-2004 06:24 AM

Comic where?

Illuminatus 05-28-2004 06:31 AM

Ok guys, I hate to do this, but I'm going to anyway.

If you care about the potential, originality, humor, and life of your comic, you WILL NOT base it upon FF1.

I am a writer myself, and every time I have written something even remotely close to another work that I've read, I find myself drawing ideas from said work, and then I grow frustrated with my unoriginality and quit. If you make this comic FF1 based, you will INEVITABLY use ideas from 8-bit theatre (as the creator of the chaostemple webcomic has). FURTHERMORE, anyone who has read 8-bit theater who reads your comic will compare it to 8-bit theatre, and I don't believe that at this point in your career, that you're ready to stand up to that kind of criticism.

If you don't have a problem with being stale and repetitive or uneccessarily unpopular, then by all means, go ahead with the plan. But don't say I didn't warn you.

Dragonsbane 05-28-2004 07:43 AM

Thaumaturge, you can be my evil sidekick instead, that would be cool.

Thaumaturge 05-28-2004 07:54 AM

Having a sidekick is cool, unless you are said sidekick. I'll work with you, though :)

Everyone knows that evil alliances are stable, don't they?

Dragonsbane 05-28-2004 08:09 AM

hmph, I can blow up planets..........what can you do?

Thaumaturge could just get a bunch of girls at the end, that might work....

Thaumaturge 05-28-2004 08:23 AM

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hmph, I can blow up planets..........what can you do?
Errr...

Many arcane spells of immense power, which I shall not name because, err... the very mention of them would implode this forum! Yes, that's it. What, you don't believe me?

Alright, most of my magics are aimed at defeating other magic users. After all, what sort of challenge are peasants and fighters?

Quote:

Thaumaturge could just get a bunch of girls at the end, that might work....
Trying to bribe me, are you?

Must resist temptation...

Although I must admit, it's a very tempting offer...

Dragonsbane 05-28-2004 11:14 AM

*remembers a certain Thaumaturge getting Hadokened by a Black Mage (lesser form of a Black Wizard)* aimed at defeating other mages, eh? (though that was a funny comic!)

Bribery?? Would I do that? *looks innocent:rolleyes:*

of course it's a tempting offer. Join me, Thaumaturge, and you shall have all the women you desire!

Gunner11B 05-28-2004 06:29 PM

You can finally recover for all those dates girls turned you down for. Think about it.

Illuminatus 05-28-2004 11:31 PM

It's like I never said anything at all. Wierd.

TheSpiritOfVengance 05-28-2004 11:47 PM

I agree in more ways than one with Ih8...

Thaumaturge 05-29-2004 11:57 AM

Quote:

*remembers a certain Thaumaturge getting Hadokened by a Black Mage (lesser form of a Black Wizard)*
He caught me off guard!!!

And in any case, it wouldn't have looked good to my audience to have balefired the subject of the episode.

I'm glad that you liked the comic, though. :D

In any case, your suggestion has its merits...

How would we divide the world? Who gets what?

A little closer to the topic, how about doing something like the conversation between Dragonsbane and I? Two mages, discussing plans for world domination, who's in charge, and who gets what...

Illuminatus 05-29-2004 01:38 PM

Is anyone listening to me or vengance?


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