I'm so sorry.:ohdear:

I guess you could say The Dreadful ain't exactly a "meat market" or a "sausage fest." ;)

Not a lot of sausages in The Dreadful! We're mostly..uhh...I dunno what kinda joke/pun I can say that indicates there's a large ratio of lady characters. "Chick"ens?

You're obviously boxed in.

If you decide you need some practice, I would love to see Kit and Poe standing next to each other in a natural at ease standing pose.

Like I said, I am very interested to see how Poe looks, and since she and Kit are twin-ish I would love to see how they compare in posture and how they carry themselves and such.

Okay, so .. "page 77" is posted, but it's the wrong page. This should not only be page 80, but it's an old version of a page. The dialog on it won't work with what I have for the next page.... I hope I can get it all fixed up >_<

EDIT: The site's a little unpredictable, so I'm still not sure what the status is on the revision. Brian's trying to get it fixed though, and he showed me that he has the right file uploaded. The site's just being a butt.

EDIT2: It looks like what I'll have to do is combine the "real" page 77 with page 78, and we'll just have to leave this current page in the archives as a kind of "Oops" thing. It seems to me the best way to minimize reader confusion.

EDIT3: I think Brian managed to fix it. It should be okay in a few days. :D

Page 77!

Hopefully the site is now showing the correct page. It is for me, and that's a good thing. Hurray!

EDIT: Though I've just been told it is still displaying the old version. It may still take awhile to get switched over for everyone.

Tell 'em to hit refresh, to clear out their cache. It'll force the browser to reload the image, and get the new one.

Hmmm. What is Jeanne? Another demon, or something else? She's got similar ears and fangs to Kit, but not the vertical pupils.

I thought she was an ogre, Matt said?
Although, we've seen another ogre already, I think?

Hmm... ogre/hellspawn crossbreed?

Whatevs.

Jeanne's race is currently a mystery!...and it may stay a mystery.

Hitting shift-command-R didn't get the correct artwork up for me (in the browser where I'd previously viewed the wrong artwork); I had to open the image itself in a new tab, then shift-command-R that tab. Now it's right.

(Jeanne and guy-in-shadows is the right one, right?)

Correct. That is the correct one :)

Page 78!

The plot thickens even more...

Is it just me, or does Jeanne have a new look as well? A much more angular one? One that seems to have made her lose a bit of that muscle we saw in chapters previous.

Page 79!

Who are the Knights? Who does Jeanne want released from prison? What is this about an outbreak? Who is the new warden? All will be answered eventually!

Feel free to speculate though.

Jeanne's body type is about the same, though her face has changed some to go with the new style.

The answer to every question
 

http://i.imgur.com/TH387.png

I don't know who that is!

It's Aizen also known as Tite Kubo also known as NonCon also kown as Captain Asspull also known as Captain Invincible also known as Captain Something, pick any word put if after Captain and you have a potential alias.

Captain Crunch?

Aizen is the main antagonist in Bleach, and is also magically behind everything ever despite the incredible implausibility (and arguable impossibility) of that actually being the case.

Ah okay. I've never seen/read Bleach so I didn't know.

I should probably start looking into these things. I'm generally at a loss as to what to do in The Dreadful to make it more enjoyable/popular with readers. I think if I weren't so ignorant about what comic/anime/game fans were into these days it might help.

Then again, for all I know I should just go with it how I've been doing and make changes when I think they're needed. For example, I think I should keep the talking scenes to a minimum and put in more action and "move" the story along faster.

I guess one good thing is that it keeps me interested in working on it. I want to improve and make the best I can. It's a good challenge.

I'm always interested in feedback/suggestions. I can't promise that I will always listen, but I'm up for reading 'em.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...y287/Mal23.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...ain-Morgan.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b.../cptplanet.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...icard_2364.jpg

???

His name is Captain Munnerlyn
 

http://www.browsebiography.com/image..._biography.jpg

EDIT: Seriously, his first name is "Captain".

If you want to keep The Dreadful good, Bleach should probably not act as any major source of inspiration. :P I like what you're doing. Keep it up. I think the thing with there not being a lot of talk at the moment is there isn't a whole lot to say. We don't have enough background info to make any meaningful plot guesses, and it's good so we don't really have any complaining to do. For the former, that will change with time as we read more and get more familiar with the world and characters. As such, until then, you're only alternative to make us talk about the comic more is to make it worse so we can get mad about how it was good before you SOLD OUT.

Oh, I can make it worse! *adds talking politically incorrect duck for comedic relief* *he's also a doctor so he can make constant Quack jokes about himself*

But seriously, I guess I'll just keep it as I've been doing it and not worry too much about it unless people start complaining. I've gone over the script a few times in my notes and in my head and made some changes, and I think everything's really gonna pick up here soon. Well, soon in regards to where I'm at in the pages. It'll be awhile in terms of it actually being posted on the site. Maybe I can talk to Brian about posting three pages a week every now and then.

Oh my god.

I challenge you to do this.

Play it straight. Play it seriously. And make him a sympathetic character.

Like he was shot in the leg by a hunter so he limps around all the time? Like House, but a Duck? If it could just be any bird we could call it: Grouse.

Checking back on something....
 

This page has not changed yet :ohdear:, it still has the "slamdunk.jpg" that (that I recall) some people (including my self) considered that it was out of place.:raise:

Yeah, I'm not quite sure why the site hasn't fixed that yet. Brian said he replaced it, so it's a mystery to me.

I changed it so Kit says "That was horri-bull!" instead of "slamdunk.jpg" . If The Dreadful ever sees print, I'll make sure all the changes are made.

(though if The Dreadful ever sees print, I will also ask the publisher if it's okay for me to redo the first 70 pages so the style matches).

Pretty much all of this.

I'm still reading, though! I'll start wildly speculating and/or shipping (MacGrath's Head x Stake) when we get past the "introduction" phase.

EDIT: Although I kind of want Kit to yell "Bankai" the next time she whips out the Dreadful, just to piss off Liz.

I think the slow/long "introduction" part is because I didn't plan enough in the beginning and have had to do some narrative adjusting. That's not to say everything that's happened will be meaningless, I've worked hard on the script to make sure it all has a purpose. It's just if I could do it over again there would be a lot I would change in order to move things along quicker.

I think I've improved as a writer (I definitely feel that I've improved as an artist), and that should hopefully start becoming evident once I get a few more of these rough edges smoothed over. It isn't gonna be perfect, but so long as it's not horrible I'll be okay with it :)

I plan a lot more now and think scenes through, instead of just doing one page at a time and hoping it works out. The latter is fun, but I think it ends up tying me in a lot of knots.

YES PLEASE!!!
It's too much of a change to not come as a shock to unsuspecting innocents. Just don't remove the old pages from the web then. I want to have my healthy dose of mouthless Liz every now and then.

Perhaps! Or Kit could say "Dreadful, HOOOOOO!" before she fires it.

...it'd fit the setting, at least! <_< >_>

Do kikoi kikoi it! (edit: whaaaaaaaaaat?)
 

So, I'm agreeing with Bookworm agreeing with Liz (and somewhere some fundamental tenet of the universe is broken, dooming us all). Really, I'd be here more, but I just don't have too much to guess about yet. It took me a while to get into 8-Bit on these forums too, even when I joined 'em. Also, being that these are made with, you know, actual art, they take longer to produce, thus the start-up is slower. Added as well is the fact that, unlike FF1, there's no past history/canon to reference/deviate from. All this adds up to simply not having as much to say despite thoroughly enjoying what you're writing. :)

Do kikoi kikoi kooky!
EDIT: I have NO idea how or WHY "do Kiki kikoi Kiki it" ...
...
Okay, so apparently auto-correct thinks "do it" with lots of "i"'s is ... whatever that is. I'm leaving it because it's hilariously random. I don't know what it means.

Page 80!

This one might look familiar ;)

There has been some art/dialog changes, but it's in the right order now. And that's a good thing. Pages that are in the right order are a good thing.


Cool, thanks! :D

Poor Boozeloaf.
 

But then again, it wasn't actually Liz that did the abandoning of her friends.

ALSO, we should totally have a Dreadful tag, as we've HIKYM and Warbot In Accounting tags. :)

I'd like to see a Dreadful tag, as well as a picture of Kit up there in the image rotation at the top of the forums. I was supposed to have made the latter but I haven't got around to it yet. If anyone wants to make one though, feel free.

I'd really like to see those things mainly because it would make the comic feel like a part of the site, it's kind of... left out, you know? Even though it's the only comic that's consistently updated in like a year, and has more pages than HIKYM and Warbot. (I actually figured by now someone besides me would have gotten around to it, like they did with HIKYM... I'm a little disappointed but I guess that's just how it goes sometimes).

I don't know what to do about making a thread tag though. I talked with Shiney about doing a banner image, so I think I can make one. Still, it kinda feels like writing up my own Wikipedia bio. I'd like for people in the forums to be fans enough of the comic so they want to do it, not me.

EDIT: Actually I've been working on the comic for almost a year. The comic didn't debut on the site till February, so we've still got a ways to go before it's been a year here.

Page 81!


Part of this page was to give Rado a slight farewell of sorts. I got a friend who liked the character so I figured I might as well have Booz point him out and Kit say something (even though it's not that big of a something -- but the guy was only on like five panels, how much is there to say?).

I felt like being nice, unlike the famous "Now Shut Up" 8-bit comic where Black Belt was 'resurrected' only to die horribly.

We weren't friends, I just liked to ride him. Always a good time. No one could buck like Rado.

The Same (using almost-appropriate tags! Commence!)
 

I think this is pretty much how Liz feels about Boozeloaf.

Thread Tag Updated.
 

Speaking of appropriate tags...

Yee haw!:dance:

I like how boozloaf is keeping the severed heads in that bucket, not sure why.

Gotta put 'em somewhere!

...Just hopefully someone washes it later...

I Am Disappoint.
 

Oh, man, now I'll never be able to use all the non-Dreadful tags in protest of the lack of tags and image rotation! :( .... waaaaaait. :raise:

Edit: (also: yay, tags and image rotation!)

I like the image rotation especially for the fact that the font is different than the others.

Page 82!

Boozloaf's religious rantings are fun to write. I'm curious what exactly the "parable of the heifer" would be...Might be fun to have mini "Sunday School With Boozloaf" comics or something where it goes into detail about those things :)

Man, this shit is straight out of the Da Vinci Cowde.

Isn't he the one who built the flying moochine?

He also created the Moona Lisa

One of the greatest minds of the Ranchissance, for sure.

I wonder sometimes if we aren't milking the cow jokes a bit.

That problem has a solution; see http://www.nuklearpower.com/2011/06/...-dreadful-032/

#83
 

I sense the upcoming dawn of a new day! :dance:

Page 83 indeed!

I couldn't come up with a Book of Aurox quote so I just took a passage from the actual Bible and changed it around some. It's pretty easy to find Bible reference online, if you can believe it.

The next page is the Christmas Special and then page 84 will be the end of this chapter! Will a new day dawn? We'll see!

It's totally free.
 

Dude. Biblegateway. Most any translation or language you could possibly want!

Also, said passage makes sense, when you think of oxen (and most cattle) as beasts of heavy burden and labor. I liked it. :)

Looking forward to it!

I really like the little shifts in the art the last few pages. First and last frame in 81 are really nice. In particular, Liz's face is shifting to look more like what I would have imagined from the early art. Looking back, I'm not sure the lips were as big a deal as people though, it also really mattered that the faces all became so much more angular and adult looking. You can see bits of the more angular faces still, like in the second frame of 83, but it makes sense there, because she is yelling.

Dreadful Christmas Special!

Five Pages of Christmas Goodness (and crazy Jimmy Stewart) from me to you!

This was pretty much The Best. Absolutely great, Matt.

Thanks! :D

Thanks for helping me design the Sexy Elf Guy too, btw :) (I mentioned it on Twitter but I figured I'd mention it here too)

Is there any particular tune to that little song, Peroni? Throwing in the "That's Kit!" was just... yeah, she shows a bit of a different side when she's not worrying about Jeane, huh?

This is what a christmas special is supposed to be.

Here's the song Kit is singing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiDht6CcYgE

EDIT: Kit is a little less stressed when she's not worrying about Jeanne, yeah. Though she does like to sing. She's already sang a song in the actual comic, and she was gonna sing another one after she killed Burke, but I cut it :)

:dance:

Very nice!

Were the similarities between this and Atomic Robo #1 purely coincidental?

Nope! I ripped the first page off of Brian/Scott :D

Kind of a homage/tribute/joke sorta thing. I'm surprised they haven't noticed it yet, but maybe they just haven't said. I thought I made it obvious...ah well. *shrugs*

Beautiful
 

That was simply beautiful! And the song, too! I loved it! Thanks! :D

"Stupid sexy elf!"

I think why I like this so much is that the nonsensical set-up and spastic pacing remind me of back when we all hadn't given up on the Nuklear Power Member Comic Thread and we'd do stuff like this for holidays. Sorry for mucking up your comic by associating it with that mess, but I really do miss it, and what's Christmas without some pining for "the good ol' days," eh?

I like spastic funny nonsense as well, it reminds me of the old days of 8-bit :)

I'm glad everyone is liking it so far! (everyone who has commented, at least)

Spectacular special.

I couldn't help but think "Special Guest Narrator: CroTeam!"

Weaponized christmas cheer...

Also, the Santa face when he's saying "and explode"... *shiver*.
Is he related to Burke? :)

Santa actually reminds me a bit more of Po, Fei's chubby side-kick in HIKYM... If Po had a beard that is.

Ah, Burke, we hardly knew ye.

I reckon you definitely could have a strong slew of side stories like these sprinkled throughout the series, Kit is downright enjoyable and a strong central character when she's not worried about Jeanne and Poe. (Not to say there's anything wrong with her in the series, just she seems so much more human when the weight of the world isn't on her shoulders.) Hell, makes me wonder what Liz would be like when she's not having to connive or lie to everybody about everything... But who am I kidding, she still probably would just for the hell of it.

Looking back on things, I think it would have been better for me to have started The Dreadful with a series of one-shot stories, rather than the way it is now. I think that would have been a good idea, not only because it would have been fun, but also because it would have let me develop a bit as a writer before I jumped into these kinds of long drawn out narratives with characters all over the place.

I've often wondered if it would be possible to get the comic to a point where I could do that. Like just have Kit get too busy with other things and "forget" about Jeanne and Poe for awhile, but I don't know if that would work.

Well, I'm just some guy who reads lots and lots of comics, but I reckon you could do that IF you have some sort of confrontation between the three first. Just have it come up inconclusive-like and you can work from there. BUT, you gotta have some sort of confrontation between who you've set up as the protagonist and the primary antagonist before you can walk off into other stories.

At least, that's how it works in the serials I read.

Christmas special = Christmas smiles :- ) I especially like her hat. I would hate to imagine being hunted down and killed by someone wearing that.

Once Poe is actually introduced in the "real storyline" I'd love to see some back-to-back-badasses flashbacks with Kit and Poe.

As for the story. I've been re-reading it and it actually makes sense that Poe shot Kit.
Fake silver so that it looks worse than it is?
I can easily see Poe being pressured into backstabbing Kit for Jeanne, but deliberately choosing shitty bullets because she cares about her sister.
I can't imagine Jeanne being sloppy with her backstabbing bullets.

Interesting theories!

^ Yeah, was it my imagination or was Liz actually insinuating that Poe and Jeanne had become lovers, or was she just speaking figureatively?