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Kim 11-16-2011 05:22 PM

What's an obesity epidemic? OR: How pizza became a vegetable.
 
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Specifically, the provisions would:

Block the Agriculture Department from limiting starchy vegetables, including corn and peas, to two servings a week. The rule was intended to cut down on french fries, which some schools serve daily.

Allow USDA to count two tablespoons of tomato paste as a vegetable, as it does now. The department had attempted to require that only a half-cup of tomato paste could be considered a vegetable — too much to put on a pizza. Federally subsidized lunches must have a certain number of vegetables to be served.

Require further study on long-term sodium reduction requirements set forth by the USDA guidelines.

Require USDA to define "whole grains" before they regulate them. The rules would require schools to use more whole grains.
Burn it all down. We're done here.

I mean, the Republicans supporting this are turning into Captain Planet villains, if they weren't already.

Just.... how could you possibly think getting in the way of healthier lunches for students is a bad thing?

EDIT: For the sake of clarification, it's less that pizza is being defined as a vegetable, but rather that congress is allowing schools to say they've filled their vegetable quota by serving pizza, even though the amount of "vegetable" on it is negligible. It also allows schools to keep serving kids shitty french fries every day, thus filling their vegetable quote with yet another unhealthy food.

phil_ 11-16-2011 06:07 PM

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"...students may continue to enjoy healthy meals such as pizza and pasta," said Kraig Naasz, president of the American Frozen Food Institute.
You'd think I'm taking it out of context, but I'm not!

As for how one could possibly think healthier lunches are a bad thing, there are several approaches. One is that healthy food is more expensive. If you want to cut government funds even further from where it is (damn, greedy teachers), cheap food is a way to do that.* Another is that you happen to be selling those cheap, crappy lunches as I have illustrated above or you are funded by those selling cheap, crappy lunches as Congress illustrated by supporting this bill. A third way one could think this is a good idea is the fallacious support of children's right to choose what they eat. Because children don't already have a separate legal existence from adults, limiting their rights and liabilities because they're freaking children and need to be taken care of by adults, including feeding them healthy food.

In a nutshell, healthier lunches are bad if you, yourself, value money more than chidren's welfare.

*Fun note: I went to usgovernmentspending.com to see what the exact percentage of the national budget went to education, and it was 15%, the same as "defense." Puzzled, I clicked to see what it was when state funding was excluded. 4% of the federal budget. So, yeah.

Fifthfiend 11-16-2011 07:44 PM

The next Democratic First Lady should launch a "don't shoot yourself in the fucking face" initiative, educating our nation's young people about the deleterious health effects of shooting yourself in the face.

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I mean, the Republicans supporting this are turning into Captain Planet villains, if they weren't already.
For a while I've figured that the Captain Planet villains were all so "unrealistic" because Ted Turner just based them off of, like, personal acquaintances.

rpgdemon 11-16-2011 09:44 PM

This is just stupid.

Though, also, pasta == unhealthy is also stupid.

phil_ 11-16-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon (Post 1168306)
Though, also, pasta == unhealthy is also stupid.

It's not intrinsically bad for you, no. But, given that it's made typically of enriched (read:bleached of all nutrients) flour, it's not terribly good for you, either. But, I mean, the same could be said of store-bought bread. I just don't like to think about it.

rpgdemon 11-16-2011 09:59 PM

You can buy whole grain pasta/unbleached pasta, these days. It tastes a little different, but it's generally what I get.

phil_ 11-16-2011 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon (Post 1168309)
You can buy whole grain pasta/unbleached pasta, these days. It tastes a little different, but it's generally what I get.

And it costs a little more, and we're talking about schools which are being forced to cut costs even more, so...

Red Mage Black 11-17-2011 01:08 AM

These types of things are why I opted to bring my own lunch to school everyday. Except taco day... which was only once a month and on Thursdays. Kind of makes me believe people just don't think anymore. Scratch that, they DO think, just not long enough for a coherent or reasonable thought.

Aerozord 11-17-2011 01:53 AM

am I the only one that thinks a small meal you have for five days a week, for 3/4 of the year, probably isn't a very significant factor in your over all diet? Yea we shouldn't be serving deep fried twinkies, but micromanaging school lunches seems abit silly.

Meister 11-17-2011 01:57 AM

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five days a week, for 3/4 of the year
That seems to answer the question right there.


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