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The Sevenshot Kid 01-03-2012 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Amake (Post 1177807)
Meanwhile I just read Year One and it totally holds up. When you read it in the light of Miller outing himself as a complete crazypants it even becomes more sad and poignant.

Only, Merkel? Flass? Skeevers? In what world are any of those words people names? Such a thing.
Holy shit, Batman, stop the presses. Miller made up some shit that sounds stupid the instant you put thought into it?

But seriously, Flass is totally a believable name. Merkel, I'm willing to accept but Skeevers as the name of a black drug dealer just... there's just something oddly racist about it that I can't identify.

EDIT:

This is a pretty good rundown of all the crazy in Adams' initial run of Odyssey.

Amake 01-03-2012 06:45 PM
I believe it's the kind of racism where a character is turned into a caricature and his skin color ends up being about the most distinguishable character trait he has. While also cheaply buying into racial minority crime statistics stereotypes.

Skeevers is the only non-white character in the entire story, too. I'll have to look into this but I think he's the only non-white character in any Batman story Miller has written. Damn that's terrible.

The Sevenshot Kid 01-03-2012 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Amake (Post 1177847)
I believe it's the kind of racism where a character is turned into a caricature and his skin color ends up being about the most distinguishable character trait he has. While also cheaply buying into racial minority crime statistics stereotypes.

Skeevers is the only non-white character in the entire story, too. I'll have to look into this but I think he's the only non-white character in any Batman story Miller has written. Damn that's terrible.
There's at least one more black character in Year One: Selina Kyle. Miller totally made her black. And a dominatrix/prostitute. He's funny that way.

Amake 01-03-2012 08:42 PM
Huh, I never noticed. I guess that's pretty racist of me lawl

On closer inspection it seems Selina has the exact same skin tone as anyone else on the same page as her, except for this panel:
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/v...eenshot005.jpg
An arbitrary sample tells me Selina is #8e5655 while her sidekick sports a #7d4e54. (I'm not sure if I mixed those up.)

Of course there's usually more to someone's ethnicity than skin color. Like, I don't know, mannerisms, body language (she acts like a cat), hobbies (she has a bunch of cats), social circles (she hangs out with a white underage sex worker), err, I forgot where I was going with this.


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