Snake you just don't understand the arbitrary and meaningless rules established by shounen ai manga many centuries ago.

There's a science to this shit you can't just throw things around willy nilly.

I don't care about the goddamn rules
I just want my Jefferson / Hamilton canon yaoi romance, dammit

Seriously they'd make such a cute couple
This is now my yaoi OTP

No snake you don't understand the science man. The reaction would be too strong.

Unless, of course, Jefferson is a trap.

Holy crap I go to write a midterm and this thread explodes. Don't you people have things to do on a thursday afternoon??

You can't have a "fanfic" if there's nothing to be a "fan" of.

Yes, actually. I have Atomic Robo pages to color but SCREW THEM. AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARY BASARA YAAAY!

No really I need to get back to work....they need to be like...totally done by the middle of next week :P

http://phillips.blogs.com/goc/jefham.jpg

"Why, Mr. Hamilton. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of True Love."

"Mr. Jefferson, are you...are you saying..."

"...You know what I'm saying, Alex."

Addendum: their relationship can become canon if they're soon after forced to fight to the death.

It is only as they fight to the death for the soul of their country that they can admit their love.

Such is the gentle cruelty of fate. That these two are forever intertwined, but can only truly connect at their end.

"Hamilton...meet my vice-president. Aaron Burr!"

DUN DUN DUUUUUN

Oh hey it's an anime reference I actually understand
Those are relatively rare

...But given the fact that Hamilton and Jefferson did metaphorically fight (to Hamilton's death) we might as well include that in and make them canon.

...Only Jefferson can't quite pull the trigger after Hamilton's down, so Aaron Burr shows up and does it instead, leading to Jefferson's inevitable mental breakdown

And then Not-Ezio stabs him and takes the Piece of Eden.

This stopped being an asscreed thread PAGES ago man, get with the times.

Oh, I'll get with the times, all right...

Liz
Liz do any of your sources of yaoi include Hamilton / Jefferson yaoi
Like are there pictures on the interwebs
This is a question that DESPERATELY demands an answer

How should I know? I'm to busy shipping Germany x Italy.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs22/f/20...lcorrosion.jpg

Bookie
Bookie you are amazing
<3

Hey Matt, I just wanted you to know that when I read this line, my brain auto-corrected "Atomic Robo" to "How I Killed Your Master," and for all of a few seconds I felt joy. Now my soul's tears could fill a teapot to the brim with pity water.

;_;7

Geez, welcome to the internet.
 

I'd just like to point out that American Revolution yaoi fanfiction isn't exactly new.

Don't ask why I knew right where to find that.

I am asking you why you knew right where to find that.

I formally and hereby demand an answer to this question.

Fifthfiend, allow me to formally introduce you to CelesJessa, since this is clearly the first time you've met.

I like looking for terrible fanfiction. (Did you know that there are over 2500 fanfictions written about Adam Lambert?)

Woman Assassin, but it's from 2010, so still...
 

Seil did you...
...did you just post a work of Tim Buckley's here
MY EYES, THEY BURN

In other news what disappoints me about CelesJessa's link is the fact that Washington / Hamilton is apparently more popular than Jefferson / Hamilton
I mean what the hell, yaoi authors
Am I going to have to write Hamilton / Jefferson fanfiction because of this? Maybe.

...Okay, nevermind, I now officially ship Hamilton and Washington
I thought this fanfiction wasn't supposed to be good

Well, Hamilton/Washington makes more sense at least.

Though it doesn't have the same dynamic. Like, Hamilton/Jefferson is like.... Goku/Vegeta or something. Washington/Hamilton is like...uhh... Obi-wan/Anakin ?

What is the matter with you?

I just remembered James Madison. He was like Jefferson's best buddy, and should probably factor into your yaoi fanfic, Snake.

If I may go wildly off-topic for a moment...

Well, more than just a moment.

Meet the new assassin: ConnorRatohnhaké:ton.

That looks excellent. At first I didn't know how I felt about the American Revolution (I was secretly hoping for gangster assassins) I'm starting to feel a little better about it.

That tomahawk's design is pretty clever.

I wonder if his Mohawk name has a translation into English.

You just know it's gonna be something related to eagles, if it is.

I am throwing my money at the screen but it isn't working.

Smoke bombs are better for distractions, anyway.

I'm probably going to need to wait until there's some sort of sale (Or a CDkeyhouse buy), but it certainly looks like they're going in most of the right directions.

Only issue is they're making those sodding colonists the good guys.

Judging from the magazine article, it's more like the Assassins are the good guys, with a side of "oh hey, a war. Neat."

It's all killing redcoats and riding alongside what are clearly colonial soldiers.

Templars are found on both sides of the conflict, so betrayals and twists are likely.

Didn't II have letters basically saying that Washington was a pawn of the Templars?

Im thinking that the redcoats in the picks are mostly falling into the same slots at the guards in other AC games
we could be fighting both in different parts of the game.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/...ary/MERIKA.jpg
Not in this market. How dare you consider hurting American guards, they are all fearless freedom fighters while the British play soccer with the ball replaced with a puppy on the corpses of the people who died holding Bunker Hill. AND they call soccer football, backwards people real football is played with an egg-like ball in your hands.

GOD BLESS THE USA.

But we already have at least one statement that it's not going to be a black-and-white conflict.

And it's going to be a close secondary conflict, compared to the usual Assassins Vs Templars thing.

With the weirdo Assassin's Creed conspiracy theories, by the time the game is over we'll find out the British ACTUALLY WON.

The America as we know it today is nothing more than an illusion created by the Templars/Piece of Eden/Mayans/Ronald McDonald.

read thishttp://i.imgur.com/3PX3g.jpg

He says they try hard to make it so the Templars are not complete evil jerks, but that exactly how they come off.

Whatever, I kinda like the whole rural areas thing, reminds me of Red Dead Redemption which is one of my favorite more recent games. I am looking forward to it, might convince me to actually play though Brotherhood and Revelations.

I hate to say it but if they're trying to have the Templar appear as anything other than unashamedly evil bastards they're doing a pretty poor job of it. I could understand if they were saying they wanted to represent the Templar organization as something that was once good but has become corrupted, but almost every example we see of high ranking Templar screws with the idea that they're sympathetic villains who desire to save the world.
Exactly two of the Templar in AC1 had sympathetic motives which led into a sympathetic action. The Hospitaller Doctor and the slaver. And the slaver is pretty freaking gray to begin with.
Even The Doctor, arguably the most sympathetic Templar, has his first cutscene involving an order to brutally break both legs of an escapee.
He was trying to help the mentally incapacitated and injured, and most of his dialogue indicates he's geniunely trying to help... but that's not a good start, you spend the moments before the kill listening to him talk to patients, some of which are angry at having the treatment forced on them. Some of which, however, are just plain shocked that he's treated them even though they should be enemies. If I remember right, most are grateful.

He's exceptionally complicated, but he's the exception amongst the Templars. Every single Templar in II, from the lowest up to the Borgia were all corrupt, power mad monsters. Borgia especially, who goes out of his way to be evil, paints a dark picture of what exactly the Templar are. Even in I, where the characters have some sympathetic situations and circumstances, their actions make almost all of them seem villainous.

The Archer in Acre whos name I can't recall for example, speaks of how fearful of death he is. You can find some sympathy in that, and the paranoid behavior it brings. But as you look back on his actions you realize that a man who is so afraid of death should understand how terrible it is to take life from others, in spite of this he kills innocent monks and his own soldiers.

I mean, man! When was the last time the Assassins did anything remotely ambiguous?

I could easily see "Nothing is true, everything is permitted" being capitalized on by a hardcore destructive anarchist or completely self-serving personality.

That's part of why I'd personally like to see a well-done game or DLC that has you playing a Templar. Obviously not a hugely important one but significant enough that we could get a different perspective on the fight.

Now THAT would be interesting. Noble ambitions against a shadowy organization that mets out justice based on its own outlandish codes.

I think the problem with the Borgia is less that they're Templars, and thus evil, but more that they're part of the Borgia family, and thus royally screwed up, pardon the pun. I rather got the distinct feeling of them (or at least Cesare) going off and doing their own plans, regardless of what the Templar order wanted.

As for ambiguous assassinwork, there's always the scores of random schmuck guards you're always killing because they're working for the wrong people. I remember one of the repressed memories in Brotherhood, where Ezio's not-girlfriend urged him not to kill a bunch of guards just because they were in his way. That's not exactly a lesson that stuck with him. Or that French guard captain in Brotherhood who basically just made the mistake of being hired by Cesare.

I hate to use Lucrezia Borgia as a source of reliable information, but she does raise some perfectly valid points about Ezio being a hypocrite in his little... well, crusade against the Borgia/Pazzi/Templars. Heck, how often does Ezio go after Templars who don't happen to be part of his little personal revenge plot? (First, revenge for his father, then revenge for his uncle) I haven't played Revelations yet, so maybe that changes something.

I mean, the Assassins' mission statement is all about keeping people free, and all that, but they're still, well, assassins, with a fairly broad definition of "not an innocent".

If the actual trailer is anything like this, I will shut the fuck up about anything negative I have to say until the game actually comes out.

All I can say is they probably should have dropped their original "trilogy" aspirations even further (since they went ahead and made two sequels to the "second" game of the trilogy, after all), and covered some of the space between the Italian Reniassance and the freaking American Revolution. I'd say there was room for at least two more games in there somewhere (hopefully one involving pirates).

BUT that said this looks pretty cool. And yes, I'd say it is original to set a game during the Revolutionary War, even if you find it "western-centric". It is more original to set a game during that period than the medieval period--American nerds love knights and shit.

Only hardcore niche nerds love blunderbusses and bayonet charges. Because they realize how fucking AWESOME those are.

EDIT: Also this dude should be wearing a hat of some kind, c'mon. He's just going to stick out at this point. Maybe there are some more subtleties about the outfit I'm not picking up on but even the Reniassance Assassin outfit kind of stuck out. This is really non-stealthy.

And I don't even really like them that much.
 

???

That's a Templar.

I know AC1 was awhile ago, but. . .
 

Al Mualim was the leader of the Assassins, Karesh.

Yeaah.
He was also a Templar.
As I understand it he actually started out a decent person and only went nuts after becoming a Templar.

And he was a Templar.

So, in betraying the Templars, he solidified the continued life of the order that is their greatest enemy. Albeit accidentally.

Stupidly evil.

What he should have done was have Altaïr killed somehow when the Apple failed to work on him in the middle of the game, then sent someone else, who he could control, to finish Altaïr's mission.

If Assassin B found out what Altaïr did, then big whoop, Al Mualim could just control the guy's mind, get him killed, and dissolve the Assassin order or keep them in the dark about the truth. Bam, Templars win all the way back then.

But nope, he had to use Altaïr.

Game starts, yadda yadda stuff stuff. Can't control Altair. What do?
oh, I know. Have him jump off the edge of the castle into what he thinks is a stack of hay, but is actually a layer of hay over rocks.

...Wait, didn't that one guy break his leg when they did that scene?
Maybe they just fucked up and Altair managed to luck out by picking one of the good piles.

Wasn't Altair fooled into thinking that he was stabbed in the beginning of the game? Logicly we could assume AL Mualim thought he could control Altair.

Plus if you remember the villagers you can tell who is brainwashed and crazy. They obviously lose some of their abilities when they are under Al's control. Also since the "hits" on other Templar members are probobly not in their plans it's logical to assume that a) he was going rouge and b) he needed Altair at his full potential to attack them.

However this lead to Altair to re learn the basics of his trade and philosophy is to see though illusions making alt more resistant to the mind control

So, apparently, the game's gonna take place in the "Animus 3.0", but the imprtant bit is that the game's character/area database is going to be written by Shaun, who will have lots of snarky comments to make involving the British perspective on the war.

That alone is enough to make me want to play it. Shaun's snarky database was one of the best things in the Ezio trilogy, and I didn't even think about his position, what with him being British and everything.

What was wrong with Roma, exactly?

there was a large area without any buildings of any sort around thus nothing to do but ride your horse though it.

Huh. I must have not... oh wait, yeah.

That area.

I thought it was already established that you will be jumping through the trees and such. Just have plenty of forests, it's all good.

I really don't want to say anything till i have the game in my hands though. The maps are supposedly MASSIVE.

That actually sort of bothers me now that I think about it. I'm not sure how long I can spend hopping from one tree to the next before it gets boring.

AHAHAHAHAHA the trailer starts off with a bald eagle flying majestically through the air

Well, Assassin's Creed does love its ominous eagles...

They're not exactly doing much to push the AMERICA, FUCK YEAH away from the pre-game advertisements are they?
I mean I'm still willing to accept that it might not be totally AMERICA FUCK YEAH in game. But it doesn't seem to be what they're going for.

god damn it ubi...The quoted trailer earlier in this thread would have been 100% better.

...

...So yeah even I have to admit that was a horribly biased trailer

Like I was honestly fully expecting Connor to take out at least one colonist there

I don't know, this is the sort of stuff you'd expect from marketing. The game might be less biased.

e: hell, I didn't even care at first but for some reason this thread got me somewhat excited about the game. And I've previously only played AC1 for like a few hours.

Maybe try ACII. It's generally accepted that ACII improved on the first game in literally every aspect. I figure it's a pretty good test of whether or not the series is right for you, much more than the first game.

...I guess regarding the whole bias thing, it's like: after America, aren't the second and third largest markets for this game England and Canada, respectively?

I mean the whole notion of pandering to American audiences makes plenty of sense if it's hypothetically, like, America vs. Belarus or something

But letting Washington give a freedom speech while Connor murders redcoats seems a silly trailer to market to London and Toronto
Do those markets like, click that link and then they see a different trailer, maybe? That'd make more sense.

EDIT: I personally believe AC2 is the best in the series (yes, better than Brotherhood or Revelations, though the latter two titles are pretty good too.) It's definitely worth playing through.

Also ahahahaha Ubisoft is there any worse language you could possibly use with Washington than "it is time to determine whether Americans are free men or slaves?"

Free men or slaves.
Yes, that is absolutely the language you want to use when America in fact totally let the enslavement of African-Americans continue for another eighty years