The Warring States of NPF - When Are You Allowed to Tell Someone They Suck?

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I'm of the mind that if it truely sucks in your opinion, it's ok to do so... tactfully.

If he doesn't get it, then bluntness comes in. That one former poster who wrote the horrid megaman.exe fanfics is one such example.

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants (Post 1187685)

Anything goes after a priate orgy.

Pirate Orgy?

Is there any other kind?

I could make a list, and check it twice . . .

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Originally Posted by Token (Post 1187730)

Is there any other kind?

You don't wanna know.

But really the answer is "encourage your friend to take a creative writing class, then let them tell him that he sucks."

EDIT: get him to join NPF.

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend (Post 1187732)

But really the answer is "encourage your friend to take a creative writing class, then let them tell him that he sucks."

EDIT: get him to join NPF.

I wouldn't call what we do "writing."

We definitely tell people they suck though.

Real answer: show him this thread.

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Originally Posted by Liz (Post 1187669)

I think it's rather silly to portray it as only being two choices. There are lots of different kinds of people and the ideal ways of handling a situation vary depending.

Its not a one-or-other, but being nice to the point of ignoring error is a bad thing. a very very bad thing. Perhaps I worded that post a bit more strongly than intended because I was tired as shit, but the point I was making is that its better to Hurt Someone's Feelings while telling them what they did wrong than to Make Them Feel Like A Champ while glossing over their mistakes.

the simple fact is, nobody is able to improve without knowing what they're doing wrong. By refusing to tell them what they are doing wrong even though you know exactly what to tell them, you are directly harming them.

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If they're terrible and take constructive criticism well, there's no need to rip into them and be a dick about it, because there's perfectly decent ways of criticizing something without being an asshole about it.

the main problem of course being that a lot of people are liable to take neutral constructive criticism as hostility. I've been studying photography and graphic design for the last three years, I've seen people lose their shit time and time again because someone pointed out an error. The fact

Also, I've seen professors repeatedly use the exact phrase "this is absolutely terrible from start to finish, scrap it all and start over." Its common. Shit, I've been on the receiving end a few times, and my work improved as a result.

so, in short, your definition of "being a dick" is different than the way other people define it.

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but I wanted to say that sometimes, even a lot of times, this is exactly what people need.

this is the funniest shit I've read all day.

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Originally Posted by CABAL49 (Post 1187702)

In the American South you can get away with anything as long as you end it with bless your heart. As in, "You are the worst person I have ever met. I would rather be castrated by ants than spend another two minutes talking to you. Bless your heart."

Makes everything ok.

Uh... that not (completely) true. In most of the south "Bless your heart" is the passive aggressive way of saying fuck you/you dumbass. its kinda like "MmHmm thats nice" which is Passive aggressive "shut the fuck up/I dont give a flying fuck"

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Originally Posted by Flarecobra (Post 1187717)

This is A good way. Another Idea is to swap "writings" and both of you do the brutal honesty thing.