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Premmy 05-19-2012 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bells (Post 1198640)
And having Batman solving problems constantly to the side of 2 people trained and comfortable using Deadly Weapons just gonna make them look incapable (cause they can't kill anybody) or Batman looking like the Bard in a Group of 4 Warriors, he can be useful and even awesome from time to time, but you just know that's stupid.

Not that this doesn't seem off, but super-heroes and cartoon characters have been using lethal weapons in non-lethal means since forever. Like, literally forever
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Lumenskir 05-19-2012 09:51 AM

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Katana's an established character as are the villains that have been mentioned.
As someone who has no idea who any of those people are, this sounds a lot like "Hey, they might look ridiculous, but they're old!"
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Not that this doesn't seem off, but super-heroes and cartoon characters have been using lethal weapons in non-lethal means since forever. Like, literally forever
Well yeah, but many of them also are Not-Batman.* Seems kind of weird to say that this guy who builds his entire ethos around non-lethality is fine with his sidekicks using things explicitly meant to kill.

*NerdBlock: Yes, I know there's a panel from the 1940's where Batman shoots a guy. I'm pretty sure that's been discontinued, along with exhortations to punch out the Japs.

Magus 05-19-2012 12:10 PM

I feel like we've had this conversation before.

I actually think the art style in those posters is way better than what I imagined in my head the first time I heard it, though, so it's probably better overall than I imagined as well.

Basically it's designed more along the lines of those who enjoyed Batman: The Brave and the Bold, as opposed to those who enjoyed more serious fare like Justice League. It's just a different style.

EDIT: I still think the Super Best Friends Forever is a pretty terrible idea, though I have to admit had it been called anything else it wouldn't have caused me any consternation.

Premmy 05-19-2012 12:22 PM

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Well yeah, but many of them also are Not-Batman.* Seems kind of weird to say that this guy who builds his entire ethos around non-lethality is fine with his sidekicks using things explicitly meant to kill.

*NerdBlock: Yes, I know there's a panel from the 1940's where Batman shoots a guy. I'm pretty sure that's been discontinued, along with exhortations to punch out the Japs.
You're right,Batman has never worked with heroes that use lethal weapons in a non-lethal way before. He certainly doesn't use them himself. I mean, the man from gotham stands for justicePlus, what does this katana chick even have to do with Batman, amirite?

Dickly Sarcasm mode offAhem, the point here is you can say "Who cares about these characters" you can say "Batman wouldn't use guns" but it's pretty inaccurate to say him working with these people is horribly out of character since the only familiarity most people have involves him working with these exact types of characters. Further.

You're vastly under-estimating the potential lethality of most super powers, Superman is more deadly than anyone with a gun. Every superhero is a person using potentially lethal methods non-lethally. Because we know what a gun or sword can do we automatically assign more lethality to their "appearance".

thusly the guy bringing the gun to the fight is there to kill someone.
http://www.queeky.com/sites/default/...mages/qky1.png
but not the guy who has squashed someone under a bus

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Magus 05-19-2012 12:37 PM

Beware the Batman sends confusing signals to us. It acts all coy and arousing with its guns, but then throws in our face a villain who wears a pig-mask. And not even in a kinky Texas Chainsaw Massacre way.

Premmy 05-19-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus (Post 1198680)
Beware the Batman sends confusing signals to us. It acts all coy and arousing with its guns, but then throws in our face a villain who wears a pig-mask. And not even in a kinky Texas Chainsaw Massacre way.

Did you not listen to the Video linked on the first page?

Magus 05-19-2012 12:41 PM

Are you implying I should alter opinions once set!
 
Listen to videos? I think not!

EDIT; Hmm, well if you expect him to be a serial mutilator in this show...then again, they did it on X-Treme Ghostbusters back in the day and got away with it.

ANOTHER EDIT: Is this from the new Batman and Robin because I'm annoyed that I've fallen that far behind in reading it. I assume it's from the Batman run with Dick Grayson/Damien as Batman and Robin, right?

Locke cole 05-19-2012 01:06 PM

Right. It's apparently from the stuff that spun from Batman RIP.

Magus 05-19-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke cole (Post 1198685)
Right. It's apparently from the stuff that spun from Batman RIP.

The face peelings reminds me of the new run of Detective Comics, too, so apparently they decided Professor Pyg's schtick was a good idea to continue.


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