PROTIP: If you're typing a post and the post unironically contains the term "reverse racism," you should take a second to really think about how stupid you sound for using it.

Please tell that to all the racists involved in Draw Mohammed Day.

Hey

There is a pretty obvious difference between doing something with the expressed purpose of pissing a group of people off and pissing a group of people off by your mere existence

Like, you are presumably not too stupid to realize that this difference exists, so I honestly have to wonder what the fuck you're doing acting like the difference doesn't exist

I have zero problems with people drawing pictures of Mohammed

I have problems with people drawing pictures of Mohammed to piss Muslim people off, which is what everyone drawing pictures of Mohammed under the banner of this movement is doing.

I'm going to wager that a five year old does not know about any of the issues involved and is not doing it with the intended purpose of pissing Muslim people off.

I'm not doing this to defend people.

I'm doing it because racists tick me off.

And this movement is rallying behind the banner of "We of the privileged Western world must save these poor Muslims... from themselves!"

SO

YEAH

goddamn this is literally the dumbest thing I have seen in this thread

and I'm not even going to explain why

because it'll be funnier to watch you dig a deeper hole trying to defend it

This is a thing that I think people are seriously forgetting.

Muslims get a LOT of shit in America. They have even before 9/11 made it "socially acceptable" not to trust Muslims, but now it's even worse. The fear of physical assault is a very real thing, and I'm sure the other atheists and LGBT people around here know that people not trusting you because of an inherent factor of who you are takes it's toll. This sort of thing doesn't just "troll" people in the Middle East, it sends a massive "fuck you" to each and every Muslim in the world, a lot of whom already feel victimized as it is. There is no reason to draw their prophet unless you are deliberately trying to make them uncomfortable, and if you're gonna do that, fine, but don't you dare try to morally justify it by saying you think their belief is stupid- that's /b/ level dumbassery right there.

Liz, you're doing that thing where you have good intentions and then are a total asshole about presenting those intentions, so if you could stop calling everybody racists, that would be swell.

Also, if everybody else would stop defending this horribly bigotted and offensive... event... thing, that would also be swell too.

Yeah I'm just going to clarify my position so there are no misunderstandings: Freedom of speech and freedom of expression: important. Using that freedom of expression to draw Muhammed just to piss muslims off: something (possibly racist) assholes do.

e: In Finland there's a crime that goes with the name of "incitement against a group of people". Basically if you spout racist nonsense to such a degree that it could be understood as advocating action against non-whites that would be a crime. I'm curious if there's something similar elsewhere?

I'm pretty sure what he means is.

When you go something like "YOUR ARGUMENT IS STUPID"

instead of "Your argument is wrong and here is why..."

The argument is that the thing they are doing is racist.

PROTIP: If it is racist then it is racist.

Oh fuck you, Fenris, you ten year old child.

If you really need to have it explained to you why racism IS stupid, that's sort of a problem.

No I understand perfectly why racism is stupid thats not what's being discussed.

When you remove all context from a situation it's pretty easy to dismiss everything a person has said though.


Edit: like I guess there isn't a specific word that has the same connotation towards hating a religion as the word racist has towards hating an ethnic group or skin color.

It just doesn't seem to fit the situation and I think using the word so broadly weakens its meaning.